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Street Fighter V |OT40002| it's been a Guile, but Urien for a wait
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Yep. And Bison can't be worse than low-mid at worst.
Zombegoast
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Laura too high, Birdie too low and Cammy and Guile be should swapped.
Alucard's Birdie was the only good Birdie I've seen.
Alucard's Birdie was the only good Birdie I've seen.
LPN's Birdie is solid too
sixteen-bit
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what about RobKOF
F.Champ fully on the "Bison is the most overrated character in the game" bandwagon
Fang should be below bison
Mika could be higher
Seems like an okay list otherwise
Just change your battle settings while in the lobby. Faster than using character select.
Doesn't have enough tools, so she's very predictable.
The match had started, I didn't notice until then.
sixteen-bit
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My Cross strats
Mediking
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Nah... please Juri.
Already Torn
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Finally got to Gold Rank with Birdie! I feel like I'm in a pretty good place right now, but I'm still shit at fighting characters with fast throw setups like Ryu and Nash. I want to work on using V-Reversals, EX Bull Head, and can setups more. Maybe a good V-Trigger combo too. Oddly enough, my worst matchup is Birdie by far. According to the stat tracker website I win against him less than 20% of the time, and that's not counting D/Cs. What a bizarre character. Fighting against stomp-happy Bisons is too fun.
Don't know how I'm gonna get that Hell trophy though 😩
Don't know how I'm gonna get that Hell trophy though 😩
direct_quote
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Urien
for a wait 
GGs, I gotta stop doing that charge from full screen like a moron.
Nah, we already know the order ok.
Well I've also gotta learn to properly punish so we'll learn together haha. I kept dropping combos because of execution errors.
Yeah, same. I blew a match mid-set with you where I meant to kill you with a chip super. Instead I just fucking DP'd twice. I get so salty when I play because of dropping stuff, which then makes me drop more. I find very little more frustrating than screwing up confirms I've practiced a ton.
At least I kept nailing my CA confirm a fair bit.
Septimus Prime
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Good thing I play Birdie, Guile, Alex, and Bison. =(
F.Champ fully on the "Bison is the most overrated character in the game" bandwagon
He's there because he kind of sucks.
Just from what I saw last night, I think you should do Cannon Spike after you land a V-triggered Spiral Arrow.
Already Torn
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Birdie kind of reminds me of Adon. You gotta do a lot of crazy shit to win, but when it works it works well. Otherwise you get blown up.
Bison is dogruff gutter trash, nobody should pick him. He has like two options and a V trigger that makes one of his two options slightly harder to counter.
Bison is dogruff gutter trash, nobody should pick him. He has like two options and a V trigger that makes one of his two options slightly harder to counter.
I normally do but I've been trying to hold it for another mixup. CS'ing after the Spiral resets the match to neutral, I'd rather be trying to improve my pressure.
Here's my much better more professional tier list (lol):
http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/sfv...3cv8geqdch2b2fcb3ej8fgi6disb1etjcbyb4b58e-bk5
skLaFarebear
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Lot of people sleeping on Birdie all of a sudden.
Yeah I thought he would be all over the place with how much people were going on about him before and after release.
What tools is she possibly missing, an overhead? Lol
I fireball would be nice.
Augemitbutter
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i still lose to random bison shen. i have to play him more. since guile dropped i only played him like 2 or 3 times and lost half of those games.
Cammy needs the following things to be good:
TKCS
Overhead
Command Grab
Counters
Fireball (that turns into a command grab if done up close)
She should have a one bar Vtrigger and get 3 uses from it.
Her vreversal should go to wherever the opponent is on screen. reversal on dhalsim would put me right next to him which is fair because it gets old trying to get in on him.
No crush counter on blocked/whiffed canon spike
Should be able to link c.mp from c.lk
Invincible backdash
I think with these things she'd be ALMOST as good as Guile.
TKCS
Overhead
Command Grab
Counters
Fireball (that turns into a command grab if done up close)
She should have a one bar Vtrigger and get 3 uses from it.
Her vreversal should go to wherever the opponent is on screen. reversal on dhalsim would put me right next to him which is fair because it gets old trying to get in on him.
No crush counter on blocked/whiffed canon spike
Should be able to link c.mp from c.lk
Invincible backdash
I think with these things she'd be ALMOST as good as Guile.
Don't forget giving her Gill's Resurrection Super.
Good stuff. I was watching a good Birdie on the Dreamhack stream, and he had this meaty f.HK overhead setup where he could combo it into s.lk xx EX bullhead. I need to incorporate that stat! For the mirror matchup, I use banana a lot and make them come to me. Once they have meter, I start neutral jumping because you KNOW they're going to start going for the jumping command grab to counter the v-skill.
Easiest v-trigger combo is whatever into EX bullhead xx v-trigger into 1) s.mp xx heavy bullhead (easier), 2) s.mp xx EX bullhead (corner carry, uses bar), 3) c.HP xx Bullhorn (most meterless damage) or 4) c.HP xx EX chain (chain doesn't drain v-trigger, uses bar). I usually go for #2 because getting them cornered while you've got that v-trigger walk speed boost is amazing.
I'm with you with the Hell/Extreme trophy. I'm just waiting on that one, hoping they'll change something in a future patch to make it less painful. If not, I will just pick Ken and dragon punch to coma, I mean victory.
CrackpotDesert
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Should I get this on PC? I feel like I don't play SFV much because I don't want to turn on my PS4.
Maybe you just don't want to play it.
Double dipping is basically pointless but if you get into modding and would actually play more I don't see why not if you've got the cashola.
She's missing her air grab, for one. Part of me thinks they only just finished the mechanic with Guile.
I think she should be able to grab characters who are crouching because she's by far the shortest character in the game. It's also bullshit that characters like Birdie and Gief can't be grabbed while crouched despite being the biggest. Visually, it's fucking ridiculous.
I also feel like if she had 50 more HP she'd be a bit better off in the more unfavorable matchups she has right now.
Already Torn
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Ooh, all great tips! Especially with the meter stuff in the mirror haha. Thanks! 😁
Septimus Prime
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I really hate Bull Horn. Most times, when I try to do it, Birdie doesn't even do it when I release the button. I never had that problem with Rog's turn-around punch.
I'm so sorry guys, I mixed up bullhorn and bullhead. I always do that! At least I was consistently wrong. Editing my last post now.
For EX bullhorn into v-trigger combos, you basically have the choice to combo into light bullhead or EX bullhead for the corner carry and more damage.
For EX bullhorn into v-trigger combos, you basically have the choice to combo into light bullhead or EX bullhead for the corner carry and more damage.
Off the hooligan probably.
You should really stop
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