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[Csr]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";208646647]Normally I only recommend this tech against characters where you can use the LK jaguar kick because it's safer, but having a level 2 mixup like this is good if you plan on using the meaty MK version.

even a lot of typical meaty normal setups can be punished with back recovery,[/QUOTE]


After h.scythe you can throw slow sonic boom and dash once for normal recovery and two times for back recovery on reaction for pressure.
You can also dash twice and do a meatie (or shimmy or whatever) on reaction to the recovery which is a hard ro react to in this instance but doable.
From my experience most good players mix their wake up even if they don't know nash's options very well.
There are many players though who don't mix their wake ups enough and this would be very good against them since there are very few setups against dps so i appreciate you sharing the setup.

 

[Shadow_Lord]

After h.scythe you can throw slow sonic boom and dash once for normal recovery and two times for back recovery on reaction for pressure.
You can also dash twice and do a meatie (or shimmy or whatever) on reaction to the recovery which is a hard ro react to in this instance but doable.
From my experience most good players mix their wake up even if they don't know nash's options very well.
There are many players though who don't mix their wake ups enough and this would be very good against them since there are very few setups against dps so i appreciate you sharing the setup.

What I do after heavy Scythe is always dash twice, if they normal get up then I use Cr.MP, and if they back get up I use Cr.HP, I don't know if the Cr.HP is a true meatie however.

 

[Csr]

What I do after heavy Scythe is always dash twice, if they normal get up then I use Cr.MP, and if they back get up I use Cr.HP, I don't know if the Cr.HP is a true meatie however.

If you press immediately cr.hp it will whiff on back recovery, you have to delay it a little. It can be meatie with right timing.

 

[KingBroly]

It'd have been cool if they added one update a day for the entire week. Unfeasible? Yes. I hate updates coincided with marketing dates. You're done? Q&A checks out? Good. Release it.

 

[lucebuce12]

It'd have been cool if they added one update a day for the entire week. Unfeasible? Yes. I hate updates coincided with marketing dates. You're done? Q&A checks out? Good. Release it.

Ok then.

 

[Neoxon]

It'd have been cool if they added one update a day for the entire week. Unfeasible? Yes. I hate updates coincided with marketing dates. You're done? Q&A checks out? Good. Release it.

But think of it this way, having a big update like the one we're getting in 2 days makes a bigger splash with the average joe than smaller individual updates. It's the equivalent of being slightly late with your paper, but you did enough extra credit to make up those lost points & then some.

 

[Marvel]

Clearly a Sagat tease, oh boy!

 

[lucebuce12]

Honestly though, isn't Ryu the best character in the game, hands down?

Every other character has short-comings to cover their great aspects.

Bison has shit defense but arguably the best normals in the game.

Chun-Li has fantastic normals, range and a comboable overhead in V-Trigger but her V-Reversal is trash, and her only truly invincible option costs at least 1 bar of meter and needs charge.

I can go on and on, but Ryu really doesn't have any weaknesses. He'a a jack of all trades, only Capcom forgot to make him master of none.

His normals, while not having much range, are mostly plus on block. His walk speed is terrific. His grab range is decent. His dashes are pretty good. He has a way to get through fireballs that doesn't involve throwing one of his own. His CA is a ranged attack so it can work in situations where other CAs might be useless. His fireball is definitely the second best fireball (In V-Trigger, it's the best). He has oki for days on end. His meaties are solid. He has an invincible reversal. A V-reversal that knocks-down on hit. A 3-frame light. And his damage output is the highest in the game (not taking into account V-Triggers).

I really don't see any reason why a person looking for top-tier characters wouldn't pick him, short of not being a fan of his playstyle.

EDIT: And we're not even touching the parry yet.

EDIT2: While I still stand by all the above, It should be noted that I am currently under the effects of salt.

 

[Master Milk]

Ibuki SFV Concepts, some really cool ones here.

http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130187.html

i need sideboob ibuki and tanuki ibuki in my life

 

[Omnistalgic]

Honestly though, isn't Ryu the best character in the game, hands down?

Every other character has short-comings to cover their great aspects.

Bison has shit defense but arguably the best normals in the game.

Chun-Li has fantastic normals, range and a comboable overhead in V-Trigger but her V-Reversal is trash, and her only truly invincible option costs at least 1 bar of meter and needs charge.

I can go on and on, but Ryu really doesn't have any weaknesses. He'a a jack of all trades, only Capcom forgot to make him master of none.

His normals, while not having much range, are mostly plus on block. His walk speed is terrific. His grab range is decent. His dashes are pretty good. He has a way to get through fireballs that doesn't involve throwing one of his own. His CA is a ranged attack so it can work in situations where other CAs might be useless. His fireball is definitely the second best fireball (In V-Trigger, it's the best). He has oki for days on end. His meaties are solid. He has an invincible reversal. A V-reversal that knocks-down on hit. A 3-frame light. And his damage output is the highest in the game (not taking into account V-Triggers).

I really don't see any reason why a person looking for top-tier characters wouldn't pick him, short of not being a fan of his playstyle.

EDIT: And we're not even touching the parry yet.

EDIT2: While I still stand by all the above, It should be noted that I am currently under the effects of salt.

- He’s not easy to play with at high level, because everyone knows how to play against a shoto. Ryu has to be strong, or he will be whack...

Only nerf he (and others) need right now is the AA jab that everyone keeps doing, it should be getting stuffed by jumping hard attacks.

 

[lucebuce12]

- He’s not easy to play with at high level, because everyone knows how to play against a shoto. Ryu has to be strong, or he will be whack...

Only nerf he (and others) need right now is the AA jab that everyone keeps doing, it should be getting stuffed by jumping hard attacks.

And also fix that stupid j.lk

It's hideously good.

 

[mnz]

You forgot Ryu's jumping lk, which is maybe the best move to jump in with in the game. He also has amazing hitconfirmable meaties with many active frames that even hit twice with solar plexus and axe kick.

His backdash is also pretty good, because it leaves him in hit range. Maybe that's intended to be bad, but in this game it's actually really strong.

 

[galvenize]

People getting creative with Juri

https://i.redd.it/kg7pw66gz66x.jpg

 

[lucebuce12]

People getting creative with Juri

https://i.redd.it/kg7pw66gz66x.jpg

Ughhh. Too strippery for my taste.

 

[peter0611]

Most players and tier lists have Ryu as a top 2 character, with only Chun-li ahead of him. I don't think it's unreasonable to just swap positions really.

 

[Bizazedo]

No idea how to fight Dhalsim. AA jab too strong.

 

[lucebuce12]

No idea how to fight Dhalsim. AA jab too strong.

Never ever ever ever ever ever jump against Dhalsim in this game.

Best case, he slides out of there.
Worst case, he antiairs you and hits you with a meaty attack when you come down.

Try to get him on the offensive as he doesn't really have the tools to mount a proper offense against a big chunk of the cast.

Knowing which character you frequently use would help us give some matchup specific advice.

 

[hamchan]

Ryu probably is the best character right now, though he does share that tier with Chun and Nash because he's not overwhelmingly stronger than them really. Maybe Ken belongs up there too.

 

[sixteen-bit]

People getting creative with Juri

https://i.redd.it/kg7pw66gz66x.jpg

Modders are gonna be busy af on Friday

 

[Omnistalgic]

And also fix that stupid j.lk

It's hideously good.

oh yeah...it's pretty slick..I don't mind it if they give it back to Ken too!

Otherwise yeah, it's a little too strong.

 

[Skilletor]

I'm glad people in this thread aren't balancing this game. Most people's suggestions read like, 'I want my character to have no flaws, fuck everybody else.'

 

[sixteen-bit]

I just noticed in that CPT footage, that when the versus match between Floe and Mike Ross ends, there are 5 options that pop up.

Play Again
Return to Character/Stage Select
Return to Battle Settings
Show Replay
Return to Main Menu


Perhaps there are some UI adjustments in this update as well? Or where these always the options that showed after a match in Versus?

Could you always save local replays? I missed that feature's absence in SF4 cuz it was in the home ports of SF3 and I liked that.

 

[MrCarter]

Hold on so is it possible to get Sagat as a bonus character this year?

I mean we got boxer 1 month earlier. Is Juri coming in July? And Urien in August?

I'm thinking we will get a character after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.

 

[MrCarter]

People getting creative with Juri

https://i.redd.it/kg7pw66gz66x.jpg

Damn, that would be too distracting.

 

[Grakl]

Never ever ever ever ever ever jump against Dhalsim in this game.

Best case, he slides out of there.
Worst case, he antiairs you and hits you with a meaty attack when you come down.

Try to get him on the offensive as he doesn't really have the tools to mount a proper offense against a big chunk of the cast.

Knowing which character you frequently use would help us give some matchup specific advice.

Unless you're mika

 

[lucebuce12]

I'm thinking we will get a character after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.

I think a character REVEAL is more likely.

 

[mnz]

Why would Ono tease something that's 6 months or more away? I still BELIEVE

 

[lucebuce12]

Why would Ono tease something that's 6 months or more away? I still BELIEVE

I wish I had your optimism.

 

[BlizzKrut]

Don't take things Ono says or shows too literally, he could just be drunk ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

I believe in we getting a trailer or an image like the S1 one at Capcom Cup, EVO is too soon, I believe we could be getting the Juri trailer at EVO with a release 1 week later.

 

[Bizazedo]

Knowing which character you frequently use would help us give some matchup specific advice.

I play Bison. Forever and always . But yeah, ran into a 10000 point Dhalsim and lost 1-3, 1-3, 0-3. He switched to an equally leveled Nash and Karin and I 3-0'd and 3-1'd him, but as I never fight Dhalsim, I floundered.

If anyone is around TONIGHT btw to rumble, I would like to.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'm thinking we will get a character after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.

Yes. Season 2 plsssss

 

[Sixfortyfive]

'I want my character to have no flaws, fuck everybody else.'

In retrospect, I feel that beta 2 Mika basically was that, lol.

 

[Grakl]

Bison full screen super means he might be my second character tbh

In retrospect, I feel that beta 2 Mika basically was that, lol.

What was she like then?

 

[MrCarter]

Wish I understood what they were saying in the Topanga stream lol.

 

[mnz]

Don't take things Ono says or shows too literally, he could just be drunk ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

I believe in we getting a trailer or an image like the S1 one at Capcom Cup, EVO is too soon, I believe we could be getting the Juri trailer at EVO with a release 1 week later.

I know he's said a bunch of BS over the years, but his SFV teases were mostly pretty direct and usually followed by some type of announcement pretty quickly.

 

[Pompadour]

I'm thinking we will get a character after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.

I think we will hear about Season 2 plans at Capcom Cup but I don't know if we will get any bonus characters this season.

I know he's said a bunch of BS over the years, but his SFV teases were mostly pretty direct and usually followed by some type of announcement pretty quickly.

It's hard to tell what's a tease and what isn't, he takes pictures with that Blanka toy all the time. The only time it's clear he's teasing is when he's taking cropped pics of new characters.

 

[vg260]

Why would Ono tease something that's 6 months or more away? I still BELIEVE

Remember Hadouken Cabs? not an Ono tweet but we didn't know what that meant for a long time. Wasn't it about a year?

 

[Sixfortyfive]

What was she like then?

- f.MK went twice as far and charged HK was harder to stuff (either had a better hitbox or more active frames). She got in for free.
- Her 3-frame jab could actually link into target combo and lead to real damage. The target combo itself was only -2 on block (instead of -5), so it was completely safe.
- V-Skill had much less recovery and gave 2x the damage boost it does now.

 

[mbpm1]

Honestly though, isn't Ryu the best character in the game, hands down?

Every other character has short-comings to cover their great aspects.

Bison has shit defense but arguably the best normals in the game.

Chun-Li has fantastic normals, range and a comboable overhead in V-Trigger but her V-Reversal is trash, and her only truly invincible option costs at least 1 bar of meter and needs charge.

I can go on and on, but Ryu really doesn't have any weaknesses. He'a a jack of all trades, only Capcom forgot to make him master of none.

His normals, while not having much range, are mostly plus on block. His walk speed is terrific. His grab range is decent. His dashes are pretty good. He has a way to get through fireballs that doesn't involve throwing one of his own. His CA is a ranged attack so it can work in situations where other CAs might be useless. His fireball is definitely the second best fireball (In V-Trigger, it's the best). He has oki for days on end. His meaties are solid. He has an invincible reversal. A V-reversal that knocks-down on hit. A 3-frame light. And his damage output is the highest in the game (not taking into account V-Triggers).

I really don't see any reason why a person looking for top-tier characters wouldn't pick him, short of not being a fan of his playstyle.

EDIT: And we're not even touching the parry yet.

EDIT2: While I still stand by all the above, It should be noted that I am currently under the effects of salt.

Ryu is the best.

Most other characters dream about being as complete as him

 

[ShogunDarius]

Does anyone know if you buy a digital copy on ps4 will it need to download over a disc based installation? Also will the save data be compatible as there are games which aren't iirc

 

[Grakl]

- f.MK went twice as far and charged HK was harder to stuff (either had a better hitbox or more active frames). She got in for free.
- Her 3-frame jab could actually link into target combo and lead to real damage. The target combo itself was only -2 on block (instead of -5), so it was completely safe.
- V-Skill had much less recovery and gave 2x the damage boost it does now.

Those are all hilarious tbh

 

[lucebuce12]

Just ran into a birdie mirror match. That was fun.

It actually was fun.

 

[Pompadour]

Does anyone know if you buy a digital copy on ps4 will it need to download over a disc based installation? Also will the save data be compatible as there are games which aren't iirc

Yes, you will need to erase the disc install and download. Save should work fine.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Ibuki SFV Concepts, some really cool ones here.

http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column-130187.html

If they bring back that boring brown outfit, they better use the one with the scarf-cape to make it less boring.

 

[sixteen-bit]

My favorites are the fur suit and the Blaze (SOR) cosplay.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Dolls profiles are currently being posted, but decapre isn't up yet.

 

[Bizazedo]

Actually, anyone around right now to rumble? East Coast USA, CFN Bizazedo. Have some time before my next meeting.

 

[BadWolf]

- f.MK went twice as far and charged HK was harder to stuff (either had a better hitbox or more active frames). She got in for free.
- Her 3-frame jab could actually link into target combo and lead to real damage. The target combo itself was only -2 on block (instead of -5), so it was completely safe.
- V-Skill had much less recovery and gave 2x the damage boost it does now.

I feel robbed.

 

[mattp]

I haven't played since dark souls 3 came out. are Alex and guile still free for me to get some bonus fight money, or did I miss my window?

 

[Zerojul]

I haven't played since dark souls 3 came out. are Alex and guile still free for me to get some bonus fight money, or did I miss my window?

You have more or less two days left, until the next update. Go go go !!!