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Street Fighter V |OTV| BUFF MY MAIN & NERF THE CHARACTER I JUST LOST TO
- Thread starter Garrett Hawke
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lucebuce12
Member
Za Warudo? Za Warudo.
Lol, why do you hate Birdie so much? It's not like he's THAT strong.
Granted, the cammy vs Birdie matchup is kinda in his favour cause defense comes more easily for him than other characters but still!
albeit briefly, it was really good to see you again man. Send my best back to Sandy too!
Garrett Hawke
Member
I still don't get what happened to Cammy's skin in the CPT outfit, it looks so oily.
I wonder if it can be fixed...
I wonder if it can be fixed...
Those other games are also participating in the same scam though. And I think the TV show comparison is spot on. The DLC is basically: "Season Pass, does not include the whole season of DLC" which is like exactly the same as "Season 1, does not include every episode"
I'm not mad, I'm surprised. I didn't buy it and I didn't expect it to have all the DLC. I am surprised that people are defending what I think is a shady business practice. It's just as shady in other games that do the same thing, mortal kombat or whatever. And it extends to things other then "Season Pass", like "Single player campaign" or "Multiple endings". There's a certain expectation by the general public of what these things mean, companies know this and take advantage of it because it sounds better then calling it what it actually is.
This is my main point: All of these companies know that more people will buy it if it's labeled "season pass" rather then something else because of what the title implies rather then what's actually in the bundle.
Just because you and me are smart enough to not fall for it, and other companies do shit like this all the time, doesn't make it any less of a shady thing to do.
When someone comes in the thread and says that they bought the season pass and it wasn't what they expected, yea they should have read the description... but they also got tricked by a professional organization, and I don't think that's worth defending.
The standard does exist though, as exhibited by all the people who buy the season pass and then are confused because it doesn't include everything. Again, companies do this all the time, and just because it doesn't trick everybody doesn't mean they're not trying to trick people.
Edit: The defense seems to be: I didn't get tricked, so other people shouldn't get tricked. When I think the actual response should be: Don't try to trick consumers.
Edit2: I'm done talking about it now because it's not completely on topic and I don't want people to leave the thread.
What happened? What'd I miss?
lucebuce12
Member
Don't let all this shady corporation talk deter you, we still talk about the things that really matter in this game. Costumes.
It actually has a lot to do with Birdie vs Cammy, I'm bad enough with her and every Birdie I fought just annihilated me. All that HP and damage meant one mistake and I lost so much health and I'm insanely good at making mistakes.
I don't see how it is "shady" to put all the information out there because some people are too clueless to read the description of what they're going to buy.
lucebuce12
Member
Hope you have better luck with Juri then, I suppose.
The Premium costumes are real money exclusive.
The Season Pass will only get you the 6 DLC characters for this year, a Premium costume for each of those 6 and Guile's Stage.
If you wanna buy premium costumes, then you gotta buy them in-game through PSN/Steam transactions. They apparently don't even have an entry up on the store so you gotta do it in-game. They're in the costumes section of the shop.
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Buy them from the store with real money.
sixteen-bit
Member
Premium outfights are real money only; the Season Pass gets you only premium outfits but only for the Season Pass characters.
Also it kind of bums me out how often in Bronze people quit out after the first game. Unless it's a bad connection I ALWAYS rematch, even when it matches me up against way higher ranked players that completely destroy me. It's just points, and hopefully I'll at least learn something. Seems like most of the games I am managing to win people bounce after the first game
. Also getting increasingly annoyed at how badly I'm choking online in terms of punishes and just dropping the ball in general. This is scrub-tier stuff so it's not worth critiquing, I just really need to play more and get my experience and muscle memory up.Umm both these characters could be played. Damn I'm late. Anyway I think Capcom is making a good decision to hold out until the end of Capcom Cup.
Son Of Sparda
Member
The game won't let me play online and asks me to update to 1.06 but the latest update on PS4 is 1.04..... What?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
You don't get to decide it's a "scam" just because it doesn't fit your expectations or definition.
And if we are going by definitions, wiki has it listed as "access to some or all future DLC".
And again no, your tv comparison is silly, the season pass would have to leave out things that are relevant to the actual gameplay (as in characters) for it to be any kind of good comparison.
I probably won't. I enjoy the faster/agile characters so I keep playing the ones with lower health but my execution isn't sharp enough for it. My execution has gotten better but I'm still making plenty of mistakes.
I should also add that a lot of my "hate" for Birdie is me being silly. I don't actually hate any characters.
I think it's been said by some that if '8 frames' is fixed, Nash is basically screwed. Is it true? I dunno.
I think Chun, Ryu, Ken and Necalli are going to get nerfed in the future, though. Nash might, depending on the 8 frames thing holding water.
FANG needs to be buffed, though. Infiltration really only seems to use him to fuck with people.
lucebuce12
Member
The 1.05 and 1.06 are downloaded in-game if you're on PS4. They're not downloaded through PSN.
Yeah lol I picked up on that second part. Hope your execution improves!
What excuse does Xian have then? FeelsBadMan
corrosivefrost
Member
Not every consumer is a savvy consumer.
When Season Pass, as ketch points out, has been used, the general case is a "buy all paid DLC for a discount over individual purchases". This is the case more often than not.
Furthermore, when a consumer looks at the "premium edition" or whatever they call the game + season pass package, there's probably an even lower probability of the person checking to see exactly what's included in the season pass.
I thought your analogy was understandable. And I agree there is a standard.
I think one of the things that further makes this a tricky purchase is that people want a way to buy everything. They want that "all halloween costume" pack from USF4, they want that "all summer costume" pack... and they think "season pass? that must be the option for all DLC". But Capcom doesn't bundle everything this time around and people aren't used to the shift in dlc policy, especially with the naming convention.
Same for Steam/PC.
Not really. Content is content.
Premium outfights are real money only; the Season Pass gets you only premium outfits but only for the Season Pass characters.
Also it kind of bums me out how often in Bronze people quit out after the first game. Unless it's a bad connection I ALWAYS rematch, even when it matches me up against way higher ranked players that completely destroy me. It's just points, and hopefully I'll at least learn something. Seems like most of the games I am managing to win people bounce after the first game
I can't though. I try t but, at least on Steam, it doesn't take me to the store or anything.
lucebuce12
Member
Try closing the game and restarting Steam then trying again.I can't though. I try t but, at least on Steam, it doesn't take me to the store or anything.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I can't though. I try t but, at least on Steam, it doesn't take me to the store or anything.
Enable steam overlay.
Uhh, Ibuki & Balrog were EVO-legal.
Chronospherics
Member
Oh my bad, I just assumed they weren't because neither were represented in top 32, and didn't they say something before about not having Ibuki playable at Evo? Fair enough though.
Either way I don't think we can judge the performance of those characters yet, as they are too fresh. I suspect even for Guile and Alex, etc. Many just felt they had invested too much time into their mains to switch at Evo. I imagine a lot of pro players who were perhaps considering a switch will do so after Evo or Capcom cup if they were eligible.
corrosivefrost
Member
I saw one or two Ibuki's in pools when I was able to watch, but maybe only a single Boxer if that.
I did not. I wasn't sure if he had made the switch for EVO or not.
Capcom? Hahahaha.
Then you didn't see any of PR Balrog's matches.
Just curious; how is the Chun/Boxer matchup? Just played a Boxer for the first time, probably inexperience but a lot of his stuff seems pretty safe, or at least hard for Chun to punish without spending meter? He bodied me the first round, and he won the next 3 in a row but they were all fairly close, he didn't seem to have a lot of great anti air options against me and Chun's st.MP was causing him problems and catching him out of stuff.
Premium outfights are real money only; the Season Pass gets you only premium outfits but only for the Season Pass characters.
Also it kind of bums me out how often in Bronze people quit out after the first game. Unless it's a bad connection I ALWAYS rematch, even when it matches me up against way higher ranked players that completely destroy me. It's just points, and hopefully I'll at least learn something. Seems like most of the games I am managing to win people bounce after the first game
Dude, we need to play together! I have the same issues. With all the new people in the thread we should make a bronze league battle lounge. My CFN is KetchV.
Let's go GAF, Post your CFN if youre bronze and want to improve.
I can be online in like 20 minutes.
Gipsy Danger
Member
GGs Alchemist. That was super fun. Your Chun reminds me that I really need to step up my footsies game.
GGs. My Chun is straight trash right now :lol
Garrett Hawke
Member
this is totally the mystery costume
Son Of Sparda
Member
Thanks for the reply.
That's a little weird. Do you know how big is the download size and how should I know if the download has started or not?
Gipsy Danger
Member
lucebuce12
Member
It should automatically give you a notification when it's logging into the server, something like "Title update needs to be downloaded"
Then you'll be thrown in-game and in the top of the main menu there'll be a progress bar showing how much is downloaded.
You can't use any online features while it's being downloaded but you can play offline. It'll also give a notification in-game once every 10% of it is downloaded.
I think it's around 200-300 MB. 500 MB is the absolute MAXIMUM.
Either this or Violent Ken.
But it'd be hilarious if it's just Guile dressed as Mega Man or some shit.
I added you, I've got to go in a minute but will probably be back shortly or at least at some point tonight. My CFN is MrDaravon. You were actually the first person I added, had to figure out how to even do it lol. How that's handled isn't very intuitive.
corrosivefrost
Member
That could be an SFxT reference -- SFxT remaster for PS4 to be announced at SDCC?
Also, from my experience on PC, the stuff about title update appears below the main logo and then it will dump you in the menu screen and you'll get updates on the progress in little bubbles on the bottom right like all server communications and it will usually update every 10% or so.
10% complete.
20% complete.
etc.
When it finishes, it will flash a message about needing to restart the game, and the game will restart.
Zombegoast
Member
As a Nash player the lack of Air grabs in Air to Air situations and the B.MK really annoyed me at Evo. B.MK beats instant air lighting legs and is a frame faster than MP and his air grab wins in a lot of situations.
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah this was exactly my experience on PS4. But didn't you PC guys also have a 1.8 GB download on Steam accompanying the update? Thought you didn't have to bother with the in-game patching shenanigans.That could be an SFxT reference -- SFxT remaster for PS4 to be announced at SDCC?
Also, from my experience on PC, the stuff about title update appears below the main logo and then it will dump you in the menu screen and you'll get updates on the progress in little bubbles on the bottom right like all server communications and it will usually update every 10% or so.
10% complete.
20% complete.
etc.
When it finishes, it will flash a message about needing to restart the game, and the game will restart.
My pride
Your Karin is real good though. I stink at the mirror.
Not taking anything away from your win, I'm too reliant on IAL with her.
corrosivefrost
Member
Yeah, it might've, I don't pay attention to the download list on my Steam client most of the time; I just dealt with the update stuff the last few times I booted the game for 1.05 and 1.06.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
the 1.6gb and 1.8gb patches rearranged a couple of files.
Changing the 8f input lag is going to affect the ENTIRE game. Not just Nash , Overheads are almost going to never hit. Chars like Birdie grab is also going to be near useless.
Many of the games " Can be punished if predicted , but not punished if you arent expecting it " Type moves are going to change.
Cammy vs Birdie from my experience is about two things as Birdie: Keeping her the fuck out, because if she gets in it's incredibly hard for him to get her off his back, and if that fails, use your V-Trigger as a comeback tool.
(The latter is true in every match cause his V-Trigger is absurdly good.)
(The latter is true in every match cause his V-Trigger is absurdly good.)
Nemesis121
Member
We still had to go through in game update, i was in training mode for it... it pissed me off cause i thought i was done downloading i can play..
Part of me believes the Steam update was to change how certain files are encoded, like Survival Mode and costumes, which broke damn near every mod the game has.