After playing more I think his only neutral is counterpoking and throwing fireballs
He can't impose himself
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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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He can't impose himself
I... really don't like that. The Akuma dream might be dead for me already.
Maybe I should just learn Ryu as my pocket shoto.
So I used to sort of emulate Infiltration's hit and run style with Nash.
What should I do now? Get a new main?
New main, I just got back from work he definitely sucks hard now lol. I'm sticking with him for now until there's some interesting characters in Season 2.
stn
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That's been my impression so far as well. Though I'm always scared to throw fireballs because of his health. The range he's mostly going to be throwing plasma at is the one which makes him open to a jump at any given point.
Does anyone know of any places with discounts on PSN cards, or anything like that? I wanna buy the S2 pass but $30 bucks just seems like a lot, especially as you don't even get Akuma's new stage and we have no clue who any of the new characters will be or how they play. I also don't wanna spend fight money on Akuma because I'd rather save that for stages and costumes and stuff.
Yeah he doesn't have a good long range option that isn't also as heavy on recovery as a fireball or so. Its deficil
Does anyone know of any places with discounts on PSN cards, or anything like that? I wanna buy the S2 pass but $30 bucks just seems like a lot, especially as you don't even get Akuma's new stage and we have no clue who any of the new characters will be or how they play. I also don't wanna spend fight money on Akuma because I'd rather save that for stages and costumes and stuff.
poverty boyz
Are you feeling the meter nerf at all? Honestly for me it's been business as usual. I was always pretty judicious with ex dr so maybe that has something to do with it.
I'm a total scrub so I'm not going to cry "nerfed", but man I'm struggling with Alex now.
-Jab anti-air sucks now, especially when in the corner. cr hp changes are not a replacement AA.
-pokes are worse
-v-reversal is (seems) even worse
-huge nerf to stun from forward throw, making stunning much harder
-v-trigger still hugely situational, and stuffed by a ton of other players' v-triggers (add Akuma to that list)
-light slash elbow got nerfed
-head crush still too risky most of the time
-grey life change makes using moves w/ armor much worse
+air stampede seems slightly more useful/viable
+couple more combo possibilities with l flash chop
So it's harder to open up opponents now, and I'm even worse off in the corner, which is something I was struggling with before.
Anyone have any tips, any new options that this patch enabled that I need to exploit?
-Jab anti-air sucks now, especially when in the corner. cr hp changes are not a replacement AA.
-pokes are worse
-v-reversal is (seems) even worse
-huge nerf to stun from forward throw, making stunning much harder
-v-trigger still hugely situational, and stuffed by a ton of other players' v-triggers (add Akuma to that list)
-light slash elbow got nerfed
-head crush still too risky most of the time
-grey life change makes using moves w/ armor much worse
+air stampede seems slightly more useful/viable
+couple more combo possibilities with l flash chop
So it's harder to open up opponents now, and I'm even worse off in the corner, which is something I was struggling with before.
Anyone have any tips, any new options that this patch enabled that I need to exploit?
Reizo Ryuu
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Time to go home and body everyone with akuma
I'll prolly drop down to 0LP
lucebuce12
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A pretty blonde woman? You have my interest
A pretty blonde RUSSIAN woman? I'm listening
A pretty blonde RUSSIAN woman who dresses up as a secretary? New main.
MiniBossBattle
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Cammy feels.... different....
wasn't I able to combo standing mp, cr mp, cr mk to spiral arrow?
wasn't I able to combo standing mp, cr mp, cr mk to spiral arrow?
Not really. Most of the meter nerfs were to whiffed moves, which I don't feel has any real impact on Bison. He actually gained meter on blocked DKPs so overall he's probably gaining slightly more meter than before.
Edit - You get slightly less meter from throws which is noticeable on him I guess, but it seems made up for in blocked DKP and Blasts.
Cr.MP into cr.MK only worked off of counter hit.
Normal combo is st.MP into one of st HP/cr.MP/cr.MK Spiral Arrow.
From cr.MP you get a second cr.MP into Spiral Arrow.
Shadoken
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Bonchan relied a lot on the pushback from Sonic booms and Scythe. Thats nerfed quite a bit. And the additional hurtbox to Sonic booms makes them too risky.
Its weird that Capcom nerfed Sonic Booms and his movement. Like idk what they expect the character to play like now. His normals are decent but without the walkspeed you cant really re position yourself quickly.
Yup... It didnt hit me from the patch notes. Because everything says "minor" But those changes are anything but minor.
bob_arctor
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So how are Juri players feeling? Better, the same??
ColonialHawk
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I think CA's in general will be rare. The meter gain decrease really changes the pace of the game. Meter management is gonna become more prominent this year.
TheSpoiler
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Lots a fresh meat for me to eat
Time to pull that birdie of the shelf and dust him off.
Time to pull that birdie of the shelf and dust him off.
I think she also got a new combo with bMP , sLP. Dont think that worked before. Not sure how useful that is but its something
fluffydelusions
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Do I just totally suck or are trials hard af using the PS4 dpad? I haven't really messed with trials until today but trying chuns and couldn't do any with dpad but with the analog stick did the first 2 so far relatively quickly.
MiniBossBattle
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You are right. I forgot I didn't have a good low hit confirm (old man reactions). Maybe cr. Lk, cr, lp mk spiral arrow.
I will stick to mp, cr mp, spiral arrow and cr. mp cr mp spiral arrow.
Anything new with Cammy?
SneakersSO
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From what i've seen with my short time with her:
The basic tenants of the character are intact, while she's been given more combo options in general. However, personally, Juri's problems still lie in the character archtype, rather than her frame data or combo potential. Her qcb.k is still grabable before she hits the ground, but now you can combo into it more easily, so its more of a neutral/comboable option, which you then use to build up her charges.
She's a character whose entire potential lies if you can do setups that allow her to safely build up charges, which are now even safer to build up, then unleashing them on her opponents in the form of damaging combos. She does more damage now, and her options to open up opponents (st.hp, good lord) have gotten even better. But, her drawbacks are still as big as they were.
I actually think much of Juri's initial issues would be relieved if she started the match with one or more of her charged kicks already stocked, versus her having to build them up during the match. Or, if she retained a built-up charge between rounds, much like EX meter. Its not like Ibuki has to start a match having to build up kunais, so why does Juri have to store ammunition prior to her unleashing it.
lucebuce12
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Do it again. The same thing happened to me last night, I tried again today and it worked (notifications were very laggy)
J_Macgrady
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It just depends on comfort really. I did the trials on the D-Pad. It takes patience to do trials so don't beat yourself up if you can't complete them all at once.
Hellshingu
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Ran through Akumas last night without issue on it because I was too lazy to get my stick from the closet.
Jaded Alyx
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Look at your thumb as you do the motions and make sure you are actually doing them properly.
UcchedavÄda
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The new DInput support seems to work well, but unfortunately it works by button-to-button mapping, instead of a button-to-function mapping, in contrast to SFIV. I had to look up a picture of a XBox arcade stick to figure out what buttons corresponded to what, so they could "fix" it simply by showing both an pad and an arcade stick in the dialogue.
And I really hope they add the ability to specify the alternative version of a costume in the battle settings, because I plan on rocking Ryu's B-Boy costume without the jacket for the foreseeable future. On top of the costume looking amazingly silly (in a good way), the physics of the clock is pretty hilarious. It goes everywhere when he moves, so it ends up getting stuck on his arm, occasionally.
And I really hope they add the ability to specify the alternative version of a costume in the battle settings, because I plan on rocking Ryu's B-Boy costume without the jacket for the foreseeable future. On top of the costume looking amazingly silly (in a good way), the physics of the clock is pretty hilarious. It goes everywhere when he moves, so it ends up getting stuck on his arm, occasionally.
Some of the trials will not work, they haven't updated them for S2 yet.
edit: nvm, S1 properties are rolled back for those trials.
For charge chars, try analog.
I can't tell what is safe or not when akuma hits me. Like is his divekick +on block? So weird looking if it is.
Capcpom
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Apparently not true, they just Capcpom'd up the warning message so it sounds like they don't work, when instead they're loading you into S1 versions of characters.
TheSpoiler
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If it's low it's safe iirc
lol they still need to fix that. kind of misleading
Reizo Ryuu
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My upload speed got upgraded to ~30mbits, can anyone check to see how my stream is looking?
I can't handle streaming 720p60 and watching the stream myself at the same time without a few framedrops.
https://www.twitch.tv/reizoryuu
I can't handle streaming 720p60 and watching the stream myself at the same time without a few framedrops.
https://www.twitch.tv/reizoryuu
looks smooth to me
UcchedavÄda
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worth it if it's a low now.
Lost Fragment
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Don't know what people are really saying about the Chun nerfs (though I suspect that lots of Chun mains are bitching incessantly about it) but she still feels like she's pretty good to me. Def toned down though.
lucebuce12
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That taunt xx CA
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