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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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Tell me I'm on the right path with Alex here, please:
-Use L. flash chop outside footsie range
-AA with cr. fp, st. jab, and EX rising knee
-Setup POWAHBOMB with st. fp on block if sure opponent won't press buttons
-cr. lk x cr. jab xx EX flash good hit-confirm
-Use V-skill right when you dizzy opponent
-Long-range poke with st. HK
-Use headbutt and stomp cancelled off light normals for setups
-Off of st. fp CC, dash in and POWAHBOMB or continue pressure
-Use V-trigger clothesline as a parry
Missing anything? Is it worthwhile to cancel into L. flash chop out of cr. jab for if spaced properly? Is it even safe?
-Use L. flash chop outside footsie range
-AA with cr. fp, st. jab, and EX rising knee
-Setup POWAHBOMB with st. fp on block if sure opponent won't press buttons
-cr. lk x cr. jab xx EX flash good hit-confirm
-Use V-skill right when you dizzy opponent
-Long-range poke with st. HK
-Use headbutt and stomp cancelled off light normals for setups
-Off of st. fp CC, dash in and POWAHBOMB or continue pressure
-Use V-trigger clothesline as a parry
Missing anything? Is it worthwhile to cancel into L. flash chop out of cr. jab for if spaced properly? Is it even safe?
I was playing some Casuals today with 2 characters I don't play as often, I've recently been trying to learn Cammy and I used to switch between Ryu and Nash some months ago.
Sometimes I don't know how to keep the pressure going with Cammy, it doesn't help that I don't feel like I have a blockstring ender special, which feels weird to me as I'm used to finishing blockstrings with fireballs. Even though I won these 2 matches, my Cammy still gets bodied by most players:
Cammy vs Alex 1
Cammy vs Alex 2
I'm really free to Bison, like seriously free, I feel like I can press no buttons and will always stay on the defensive, waiting for a tiny window to open them up, it is very obvious in these 2 matches as I don't even antiair because I get too defensive and scared against Bisons.
Ryu vs Bison 1
Ryu vs Bison 2
What can I do to improve with these 2 characters? I play Nash as my main, but I want to start exploring more characters and will pick up Guile, Alex and Urien as soon as I purchase the Season Pass later this month.
Sometimes I don't know how to keep the pressure going with Cammy, it doesn't help that I don't feel like I have a blockstring ender special, which feels weird to me as I'm used to finishing blockstrings with fireballs. Even though I won these 2 matches, my Cammy still gets bodied by most players:
Cammy vs Alex 1
Cammy vs Alex 2
I'm really free to Bison, like seriously free, I feel like I can press no buttons and will always stay on the defensive, waiting for a tiny window to open them up, it is very obvious in these 2 matches as I don't even antiair because I get too defensive and scared against Bisons.
Ryu vs Bison 1
Ryu vs Bison 2
What can I do to improve with these 2 characters? I play Nash as my main, but I want to start exploring more characters and will pick up Guile, Alex and Urien as soon as I purchase the Season Pass later this month.
Omnistalgic
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What's your CFN
tactics
disappointed he's not an ass man.
ggs. i don't think i teched one dash up throw that match.
you didn't play bad but you do need to look up some rog frame data. you were letting me get away with a lot of things.
ScraftyDevil
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Because she's the best.
It can be so tough man. Best advice i can give: Learn your meaty setups against her on both quick rise and back tech. If you cant get them or arent confident, dont even try to pressure on her wakeup or you're gonna get clapped
Omnistalgic
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Great games tactics...very different style of vega. Much more laid back and pokey so the matches were nice battles of spacing and who could land there big hit confirms.
Ggs
Ggs
Zombegoast
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Why is Capcom so hellbent making shitty RB DLC when they can throw X360ce for DirectInput? My DS4 controller doesn't work without it even with the Steam Beta. Also i can't be the only one who doesn't like the option button very close to my thumb?
Reizo Ryuu
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Because artists are also programmers.
Aenima
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Yes. 29 November will be the last day ppl can purchase the CPT DLC.
And the same goes for the Halloween DLC, last day ppl can purchase it is also 29 November.
lucebuce12
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Wasn't that the same reason he picked Rose in SF4?
All it takes is one successful EX air tatsu, or one well timed EX DP and you can turn the tides like that. Ken can't really match him in the fireball zoning game and so needs to look for a way in which a good Guile can prevent but certainly not constantly.
molnizzle
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Right, it's the way in that I'm having trouble with. I guess air tatsu is all I got.
Omnistalgic
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Guile and Bison are historically bad matches for Ken since he relies on getting in or those characters are usually designed for keeping out.
It's a weird match where you almost have to take calculated risk every so often. Best advice is to watch high level play of the match up, Momochi in particularly but I can give you some general stuff
- Don't abuse run in the matchup
- Walk forward and block
- be patient
- use Kens limited plus frame moves to frame trap
- Hit confirm off target combo 1&2 will help a lot
- get Guile in the corner as quickly as possible
- Guile is semi-free on wakeup meaty/throw is good
- Jump seldomly only after you establish a pattern
- Pray
It doesn't even seem like a great way to farm Fight Money. Complete waste of time for very little reward.
Anyone wanna play?
lucebuce12
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It's not a waste of time since you don't actually have to be there pressing the button, you can just use turbo on the stick and just leave the house and come back to free character exp/FM.
It is a waste of time for the people they're matched up with though.
lucebuce12
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I heard this guy Gootecks gives lessons for 150$ an hour.
I mean in general. How much FM are they actually gaining by letting the game go like that? 1k per level, and how many levels are gained by losing matches with characters? It has to take at least hundreds of matches to get to 1 level gained after lvl 10 or so like that. So they're getting a very low amount of FM through no effort at all... and to get what, exactly? To get stages or titles that they'll not actually play with?
Just seems ultimately pointless.
ColonialHawk
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I'm trying to learn to be less of a salty baby, not more
TheSpoiler
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lmmmaaoooooooo
lucebuce12
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DR2K
Banned
Because she's Mokotos replacement
*Snerk*
FunkyLounge
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-Use L. flash chop outside footsie range
L flash chop has a very slow startup, better poke with cr.mp or cr.mk/st.mk. Raw chop is not a great idea.
-AA with cr. fp, st. jab, and EX rising knee
Alex indeed has a st.lp AA, but it is not on Ryu level. Very situational, though it does lead to a very decent mixup situation. Use carefuly. EX rising knee is the most reliable option, but I get most mileage from cr.fp into EX knee when I want to spen the meter.
However raw EX knee is great against Vega's EX flying barcelona and other airborne moves that are hard to anti air. You can just overpower them with EX knee.
LK knee is nothing to sneeze at either.
-Setup POWAHBOMB with st. fp on block if sure opponent won't press buttons
Yep, blocked st.fp allows you to do whatever you want. If blocked, it's not a bad idea to do st.mp xx mp.flash chop. When st.mp is blocked then mp.chop creates a frametrap. When st.mp counterhits, then mp.flash combos and leaves you +3. From there you can do what you want again.
-cr. lk x cr. jab xx EX flash good hit-confirm
Sure, but cr.jab into EX chop can lead to accidental stun gun if you are not careful with execution. Doing st.lp instead of cr.lp prevents the mistake altogether.
Also st.lp cancels into LP flash chop, so you can hitconfirm without meter. Cr.lp cancels only into EX chop.
-Use V-skill right when you dizzy opponent
Yes, also learn the optimal corner combo with it.
-Long-range poke with st. HK
Kinda. It is also very slow, so fish for CCs, but do not overuse or you will get jumped on.
-Use headbutt and stomp cancelled off light normals for setups
Absolutely. Also - condition the opponent to jump away after blocked lights in anticipation of headbutt. Then do two lights, watch him jump and bring him down with EX knee.
-Off of st. fp CC, dash in and POWAHBOMB or continue pressure
Not bad, but you have many situational options after that.
-Use V-trigger clothesline as a parry
Again, it is situational. Sledgehammer can lead into much more sometimes.
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Last thing - find the dafeetlee youtube video on Alex setplay.
Good luck
lucebuce12
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Between Tekken 7, the new season of Street Fighter and Injustice 2, it's going to be tough to divide my time next year.
And that's not including the insane amount of other games that I still have to play.
And that's not including the insane amount of other games that I still have to play.
I've realized that Chun-Li's even crazier than I thought she was before after adopting Guile. It's not enough that she practically has every single tool that there is, but she also has a fantastic way to low profile his fireballs through her cr.MP.
Varying the speeds can, of course, throw her off, but why. To me, she's the clearest character deserving of nerfs in the entire roster, whether Ryu is technically better than her or not.
Varying the speeds can, of course, throw her off, but why. To me, she's the clearest character deserving of nerfs in the entire roster, whether Ryu is technically better than her or not.
lucebuce12
Member
And if you do the v-skill close enough, she can just low profile it on reaction.
¯\_(ツ
_/¯Hell, even Nuki called her cheap.
Romars202129
Member
Haven't played in months but fuck,
Dailies, 2 new{ and awesome} costumes for my boy necalli, and I busted up a platinum in lobby somehow.
A fluke for sure, but I wasn't feeling the skill drop on my game I was expecting from so much time off.
I might need to restart playing this.
Dailies, 2 new{ and awesome} costumes for my boy necalli, and I busted up a platinum in lobby somehow.
A fluke for sure, but I wasn't feeling the skill drop on my game I was expecting from so much time off.
I might need to restart playing this.
Since i hit gold i think i hit another wall with my Rashid i can stay in gold league but somehow i can't seem to crack the 5000 lp barrier most of my games end up with a very close loss i think there is something im missing lots of the players who i played against often say my style is random or just too YOLO but somehow when i try to calm down and take my time i just do worse lol.
Tizoc
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Red Bull Ryu isn't part of the pack?
lucebuce12
Member
Nope, those 2 costumes haven't been released yet.
tintin1029
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I love Mika, but you need to take that back!
Hellshingu
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CountBlack is a high level laura player and he is in here quite often.
lucebuce12
Member
Well there's CountBlack and......................... drawing a blank. Is there really only 1 Laura player that's active on GAF?
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