I dabbled briefly with Rashid in S1 and am picking him up more in S2. Doesn't seem terribly different to me either but I do like that H Mixer seems to hit more consistently now. He also got a few new fun combos with the juggle additions. But yeah overall it feels like the biggest change is that everyone is basically living the Rashid life as far as DPs now, which for a guy who plays a pressure game generally that plays in his favor.
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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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I dabbled briefly with Rashid in S1 and am picking him up more in S2. Doesn't seem terribly different to me either but I do like that H Mixer seems to hit more consistently now. He also got a few new fun combos with the juggle additions. But yeah overall it feels like the biggest change is that everyone is basically living the Rashid life as far as DPs now, which for a guy who plays a pressure game generally that plays in his favor.
Here's my Season 2 tier list:
yeah this is pretty bang on
i hate nash
but i'll still main him
ed: I went from Super Gold to Silver with him since the update.
Also I haven't come across any other Nash players, looks like everyone else ran away.
Until you remember Gief exists.
Nah
Laura is way more scary the geif, geifs are fun to fight and not that taxing.
Laura is like, jeez
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tbf that's how it is for everyone against Laura. Balrog and Akuma are Gief's best matchups.
My juri sux but i want to start working on her
That's why he's nearer to the center, but his is also one of the more contentious ones, because it depends on one's playstyle. I play Birdie, and I'm happy with the buffs he got. The nerfs he got are part of the universal poke nerfs that everyone else did.
cr.HP xx chain or cr.HP xx medium Bullhead are great. So is -2 EX Bullhead. So is the slower can. And the positive frames on the st.HP. Etc. He got some great stuff compared to a lot of other characters. st.HK > st.MP, especially.
Zombegoast
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Here's my Season 2 tier list:
I know Nash has been hit pretty bad but he's not THAT bad.
Pure_Phazon
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I'm down to play if anyone wants to invite. Haven't played with you guys in a while, since my ps4 has been stuck using wi-fi. I'm wired now though, so I'm back at it.
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It's not all doom and gloom but he was already bad, so making him roughly the same is a bit ridiculous when better characters like Urien and Cammy get more buffs and less nerfs.
Also vt ex Bullhead is dumb. I'll abuse the hell out of it, but it might be the best reversal in the game. Tbh I didn't want him to gain more derp. I liked having his derp be risky because he had a solid ground game. Now they nerf his medium kicks, nerf his antiair, and gave him a safe ok block godlike armor move. Definitely not the changes I wanted
maybe if the only thing you used was stomp and headbutt and fwd hp
Ggs I'm still playing lol
Pure_Phazon
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Let me finish my set with Kashiwaba, then I'll join you.
Nemesis121
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I need 30k FM to unlock Akuma, don't feel like playing survival...
GGs i got destroyed by your ibuki 😡
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Then I'm one of the few that like her incarnation here
Re: Ibuki
I'm one of the few that absolutely loves this version of her (including the S1 original). I much prefer her to her (imo) boring repetitive SF4 variant. I think she has a lot of fun tools and you can be more creative/expressive with her compared to other chars. While it may not mean she's #1 or anything, she's been the most fun to me across hundreds upon hundreds of hours.
sure, just invite when ready
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Last season I unlocked everything through fight money but this time I bought the season pass. I'm gonna use my fight money on stages and costumes where I can this time around.
Shadow_Lord
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I still can't believe Xyzzy actually pulled off a Cr.LP into Super confirm in a match, I can barely do this shit in training mode.
Zombegoast
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Ok I'm calling it, Nash is dead.
Capcom can be so fucking stupid overlooking the overall balance of SFV. "Let's nerf Alex as he wasen't good to begin with" "Oh Hi there Birdie, let's make your EX Bullhorn Safe on block with Armor and abuse it like an idiot"
Capcom can be so fucking stupid overlooking the overall balance of SFV. "Let's nerf Alex as he wasen't good to begin with" "Oh Hi there Birdie, let's make your EX Bullhorn Safe on block with Armor and abuse it like an idiot"
You don't think Rashid should be higher?!Here's my Season 2 tier list:
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GG's rekka. Wasn't expecting Akuma to have such a good fireball game, though I probably wasn't punishing the close range ones properly. I got thrown way too many times too lol.
Are Rashids generally loving life from the S2 changes?
Yea, attempting a throw tech against Akumer is a really hard decision to make, shit is scary.
His damage is real now and one of the characters that benefit the most from white health recovery change and v-reversals nerf.
The Rashid I know just won the first SFV season 2 regional over here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHQ5Pxh2T5w
GGs. I was trying to see what I can pull off mid-match, which clearly wasn't a lot so I kept it super basic lol. Was glad to start incorporating some new v-trigger stuff.
He died three times now.
No future.
I'm still gonna play the him, he's still the coolest character in the series to me.
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I just kept doing crossups into full combos, probably a lot faster.
Also, I keep trying to do Urien on Hard/Extreme, but the AI punishes knee towards the later levels now :-(
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";227238636]I just kept doing crossups into full combos, probably a lot faster.
Also, I keep trying to do Urien on Hard/Extreme, but the AI punishes knee towards the later levels now :-([/QUOTE]
Lmao if they actually changed this in S2, I did Urien's hard like the last day of S1 just in case the exploit get fixed in S2... Gonna have to give extreme a try!
Also, I keep trying to do Urien on Hard/Extreme, but the AI punishes knee towards the later levels now :-([/QUOTE]
Lmao if they actually changed this in S2, I did Urien's hard like the last day of S1 just in case the exploit get fixed in S2... Gonna have to give extreme a try!
Noted. The gray health nerf does sound like it'd benefit Rashid somewhat; haven't seen any pro ones play in S2 yet.
lucebuce12
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Because he was good but not great in S1 and other characters got better.
lucebuce12
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Agreed, don't get why people keep thinking that he's garbage when Ryu players worth their salt can prove that that is not the case.
He might not be overall as strong as he was in Season 1 but looking at Season 2 has a whole, Ryu is still a very solid character.
He might not be overall as strong as he was in Season 1 but looking at Season 2 has a whole, Ryu is still a very solid character.
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I don't think I can say this without sounding bitter or like an asshole (because I'm not mad about something that doesn't exist anymore), but I'll say it anyway. Things aren't as easy peezy as they used to be for meterless DP users and shotos in particular. Gone are the days of having to spend no meter to defend yourself against a cautious opponent on wakeup, having critical arts fully stocked for any situation because you never have to spend meter on defense or having moves that completely dominate the air (j.lk and EX tatsu) or travel way too fast on the ground (Ken's run). I can't say with confidence that season is better than 1 yet, but so far Kens haven't been able to EX tatsu in for free, Ryus no longer get big CC combos into CA fireballs for insane damage (because they probably had to blow some meter on an EX reversal at some point) and pretty much everyone who used to have a meterless reversal now has to actually manage their resources like some characters had to do for nearly a year. I'm even punishing Ken V-Skill runs at what feels like 2-3 times the normal rate with CC st.HKs.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
Gotta say, don't see what Karin players have to be salty about. They nerfed a bunch of inconsequential shit, buffed some stuff too and the changes to other characters help her out. She's probably better relative to the rest of the cast than in Season 1. I don't think she's THE best, but if she wound up being the best, I wouldn't be floored.
I'm pretty happy with her atm. I lose all my points with Akuma and then streak with Karin to get some back.
I'm pretty happy with her atm. I lose all my points with Akuma and then streak with Karin to get some back.
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Personally speaking, I think it's a bad thing. Then again, I didn't think S1 was a shining example either (only 4 chars with meterless reversals???). I would prefer everyone to have meterless reversals so that offense / lockdown / and setplay aren't the primary thing in the game. It would be nice to have actual options other than "hold that".
DP's were already heavily punishable. They have Crush Counter. You already got wrecked for having your meterless reversal blocked. Now you lose meter AND get CC'ed. It makes no sense. White life nerfed too... what's the end game here? White life nerf should only have happened with EVERYONE getting some meterless reversal. Now you get a huge chunk of white life (which almost never EVER comes back) and you have no way out without meter....
... ok.
It's not an elegant solution. It doesn't even make sense.
Really, though, and just IMO... I think there should be more ways to defend yourself besides MAYBE having a metered reversal (some chars still don't have them... so they didn't really fix anything).
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