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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play

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tragic

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I have a question for any of the Ibuki players here. Can anyone explain the benefits of the bomb mixup that Sako does in the video below? It seems really hard to do, and uses meter unlike some of the other 50/50 resets she has. Is it more difficult to block, or does it give him more options compared to the others? It doesn't seem to do that much damage either.

https://youtu.be/XFnV4CchdLY?t=39s

The version he is using uses one less knife and gets you into the same mixup on the ground (QCF+LK, wait, QCF+LP+HP). The other version (QCF+HK, air QCF+MP, land, QCF+LP+HP) requires that additional knife but is actually MUCH easier to do.

Both of them lead into the exact same follow-up (the EX Kunai popping them into f+HK into reset) which results in a "hard to see" mixup because the bomb explodes as Ibuki is doing either QCF+LK or QCF+MK.

Basically, he's going for the efficient starter into the super-hard-to-see (basically a "must guess") mixup. Worst case, they block the bomb and you are still at an advantage, which is nice =).
 
I know it's taboo to complain about your main, but I'm a decent player fellas, I promise this is not all bias whining from not being able to adjust lol. Ken is A LOT weaker. The overhead combos do not compensate for what they nerfed. I'm praying I eat crow in a few months, but I think a bunch of pros will drop him. He's a baby T-Rex with his normals and will get out footsied easily especially with ex Tatsu no longer being + on block. I don't know wtf Capcom's goals were with this update, as I particularly remember them saying they wouldn't do a lot of nerfing but rather buff characters to match the standards of others. Kinda face palming right now lol...
 

HardRojo

Member
How many matches do I have to play to get my nice guy icon back? Or is that feature broken for everyone right now?

It's pretty much broken right now.

I know it's taboo to complain about your main, but I'm a decent player fellas, I promise this is not all bias whining from not being able to adjust lol. Ken is A LOT weaker. The overhead combos do not compensate for what they nerfed. I'm praying I eat crow in a few months, but I think a bunch of pros will drop him. He's a baby T-Rex with his normals and will get out footsied easily especially with ex Tatsu no longer being + on block. I don't know wtf Capcom's goals were with this update, as I particularly remember them saying they wouldn't do a lot of nerfing but rather buff characters to match the standards of others. Kinda face palming right now lol...
I'm trying Guile and Urien now, I went from 4.5k LP to 3k already but seriously, this new update has made me not give a shit so I'm just going to play for fun and stop caring whether I win or lose. I love Street Fighter and I don't want to give up on this game already, so if I need to feel "this way" to keep playing, then I'll do that. Actually not giving a shit about LP is really good lol, I've lost a lot today and I'm laughing at it all.
 

tribal24

Banned
It's pretty much broken right now.


I'm trying Guile and Urien now, I went from 4.5k LP to 3k already but seriously, this new update has made me not give a shit so I'm just going to play for fun and stop caring whether I win or lose. I love Street Fighter and I don't want to give up on this game already, so if I need to feel "this way" to keep playing, then I'll do that. Actually not giving a shit about LP is really good lol, I've lost a lot today and I'm laughing at it all.

yeah i just starting playing casuals for FM and exp because ranked acts stupid a majority of the time. Its like great i win i get no LP because some error, then i lose and it works. So strictly on Casual from now on.
 

HardRojo

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yeah i just starting playing casuals for FM and exp because ranked acts stupid a majority of the time. Its like great i win i get no LP because some error, then i lose and it works. So strictly on Casual from now on.

And I just got the LP bug again where we both appear as rookies so he doesn't lose LP when I win and I actually win nothing because that LP won't count towards mine.

This game is simply incredible...

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remz

Member
And I just got the LP bug again where we both appear as rookies so he doesn't lose LP when I win and I actually win nothing because that LP won't count towards mine.

This game is simply incredible...

is it a bug or some weird cheat? ranked seems suss lately
 

Producer

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GGs Flux. You beat me pretty convincingly with all your chars lol. Think i should probably grind ranked so i can find better players...im doing decent playing people in the same rank but you're just on another level. Also damn it seems rog got some good mixups after his ex dash..i need to see some frame data to see how/if i can interupt and stuff to punish ect.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
GGs Flux. You beat me pretty convincingly with all your chars lol. Think i should probably grind ranked so i can find better players...im doing decent playing people in the same rank but you're just on another level. Also damn it seems rog got some good mixups after his ex dash..i need to see some frame data to see how/if i can interupt and stuff to punish ect.

Those EX Dash Punch mixups are really fun, but I kept messing them up at step 2. I could do them again and again, if I had the charge timing down, but I kept only doing 1 sequence and then stopping by accident.

Just got annihilated by ChrisG again; that was fun. Might be that we're both out of sorts now that S2 has started. It's done a huge number on my skill, and I'm honestly kind of lost when it comes to this game now. Not a great feeling. Not sure if I should stick with Mika, focus on someone else, who else if it's not Mika, focus on multiple characters, etc.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
How about Laura, aren't they a bit similar?

That's what everyone in our local scene is telling me, but I hate Laura. The reason I played Mika was because I liked the character, not because of her playstyle. Laura sucks.

It's something I'm considering, sure, but I was pretty much a character specialist for Mika, and when my ability with that has been removed, well, not quite sure how to move forward.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
That's what everyone in our local scene is telling me, but I hate Laura. The reason I played Mika was because I liked the character, not because of her playstyle. Laura sucks.

It's something I'm considering, sure, but I was pretty much a character specialist for Mika, and when my ability with that has been removed, well, not quite sure how to move forward.

Yes, preach. Laura is nothing but trash.
 

Kashiwaba

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That's what everyone in our local scene is telling me, but I hate Laura. The reason I played Mika was because I liked the character, not because of her playstyle. Laura sucks.

It's something I'm considering, sure, but I was pretty much a character specialist for Mika, and when my ability with that has been removed, well, not quite sure how to move forward.

Yes, preach. Laura is nothing but trash.

Yeah Laura is definitely trash, I feel ashamed for bringing her up in the first place.

Glad we are all on the same page F*** Laura.
 

HardRojo

Member
Trash gameplay wise or trash as a character design? Because she's really annoying in S2, those fucking safe pokes and frame traps were killing my Nash earlier today.
 
Those EX Dash Punch mixups are really fun, but I kept messing them up at step 2. I could do them again and again, if I had the charge timing down, but I kept only doing 1 sequence and then stopping by accident.

Just got annihilated by ChrisG again; that was fun. Might be that we're both out of sorts now that S2 has started. It's done a huge number on my skill, and I'm honestly kind of lost when it comes to this game now. Not a great feeling. Not sure if I should stick with Mika, focus on someone else, who else if it's not Mika, focus on multiple characters, etc.

I say still keep mika in the wheelhouse but rotate some characters, at least until the next s2 char drops.
 

Kashiwaba

Member
That's what everyone in our local scene is telling me, but I hate Laura. The reason I played Mika was because I liked the character, not because of her playstyle. Laura sucks.

It's something I'm considering, sure, but I was pretty much a character specialist for Mika, and when my ability with that has been removed, well, not quite sure how to move forward.

Are you willing to travel and try playing some tournaments this season or is it just for fun?
 

Village

Member
Yeah Laura is definitely trash, I feel ashamed for bringing her up in the first place.

Yes, preach. Laura is nothing but trash.

That's what everyone in our local scene is telling me, but I hate Laura. The reason I played Mika was because I liked the character, not because of her playstyle. Laura sucks.

It's something I'm considering, sure, but I was pretty much a character specialist for Mika, and when my ability with that has been removed, well, not quite sure how to move forward.
You mean character in terms of personality?

Because I have issues with that aswell if thats what you mean
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
I say still keep mika in the wheelhouse but rotate some characters, at least until the next s2 char drops.

Might end up doing this, but then I struggle to think when I'd pull out my "pocket Mika" in a tournament setting. Still want to adapt to her S2 self.

You mean character in terms of personality?

Because I have issues with that aswell if thats what you mean

Yes. Personality, look, style, etc. are the primary reasons I will choose to main a character when I pick up a fighting game.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Trash gameplay wise or trash as a character design? Because she's really annoying in S2, those fucking safe pokes and frame traps were killing my Nash earlier today.


Both. She will be forgotten in future SF's worse than Remy. Solely a reason to sell costumes, garbage T&A enclosed in 50/50 nonsense and a wack ass voice.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
I think the funniest part about laura is just when you think they can't make another dumb costume they always double down on the next one. I get going for the whole sex appeal thing, nothing wrong with that but Juri is an example of doing it right and laura is just some capcom's employee's fantasy imo.

GGs dude, nice balrog

akuma feels helpless against this dude... 1 mistake and lose 50% hp

GG yeah matchup seems in boxer's favor by a lot. Gotta enjoy this damage before capcom nerfs him to mika tier next year.
 

HardRojo

Member
Both. She will be forgotten in future SF's worse than Remy. Solely a reason to sell costumes, garbage T&A enclosed in 50/50 nonsense and a wack ass voice.

Yeah I hate her as an overall character lol, her 50/50s are exactly the kind of guesswork I hated back in SF4, only she's quicker and has a command grab to boot.
 

HardRojo

Member

Lol how many times do you have to guess there? Now imagine being Nash, not having an invincble reversal to at least pose "a threat" to the whole mixup sequence...
She reminds me of makoto, not really am sf4 thing.

I meant it exactly in the way the clip above makes it look, it's one thing after another, like vortexes back in SF4. I haven't watched much of 3S Makoto to tell if if she was like that there too, but I do have seen some crazy play from her.
 
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