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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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I'm the one that keeps asking that, and nobody has responded yet. I've learned through experience that you'll lose if you press anything, since everyone else just throws out sweep and it CCs anything. I think it must be +/-0 so you're just out of range of most other normals so they get beat clean by the heavier move.
CountBlack
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Nah I've had Ryu's still hit me while I'm behind him during a cross up for whatever reason. The hitbox is a damn umbrella
Can other characters V-Reversal Mika's f.HP? It seems like Alex's is too slow now...
Yup, I've been hit with his AA jab plenty of times in S2. Alex's on the other hand is so unreliable that it's not worth using anymore, unless you wanna eat a full jump in combo. Thankfully his cr. HP is pretty decent.
Yup, I've been hit with his AA jab plenty of times in S2. Alex's on the other hand is so unreliable that it's not worth using anymore, unless you wanna eat a full jump in combo. Thankfully his cr. HP is pretty decent.
LTTP, but having seen all my FM getting reduced to 0 FM(ca. 200k) in the post match screen was my eyepopping moment. Luckily nothing was lost.
Might be a small buff for Alex, but according to his framedata he can now punish all sweeps on block with cr.HP.
Reizo Ryuu
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Anything I can find says +/- 0, but this exact same thing happened to me so often now that I'm pretty confused. Guess I have to mash harder.
The problem is you're out of range of most moves, so by the time anything is out, chances are the sweep is too and it'll beat anything weaker. This favors characters with faster sweeps/long range CC normals, so it's best to just do nothing and block for certain characters.
HelloNewman
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Does anyone use mods? I'm thinking of using a costume mod but don't want to get banned.
Reizo Ryuu
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cosmetic mods don't get you banned, use as many as you want.
HelloNewman
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Awesome goodbye french fry hair Alex.
Yeah but I feel like the stuff they are getting me with isn't even new. It's just that they have all the confidence in the world now to go for two headbutts and an air SPD now if they feel like it.
CountBlack
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There's like 2 and a half Vega's left including yourself so.. better start making them videos
There's like 2 and a half Vega's left including yourself so.. better start making them videos
Are you calling Sigmaah half a Vega player? Messed up.
Top 10 is a given, what about top 5 though. I was thinking shes number 5 but after a few comments here...maybe shes top 6-8 instead lol
CountBlack
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Everyone has a pocket Urien though.There's like 2 and a half Vega's left including yourself so.. better start making them videos
There's like 2 and a half Vega's left including yourself so.. better start making them videos
^I do play a lil urien myself lol
Lmao I don't think vega is bad at all but obviously has his issues. I gotta find better setups, what best blockstrings are and all of the other shit I've put off for a while lmao.
She's still really good, but she has some weird things to get used to. For her optimal bnbs it now depends if your opponent is crouching or standing as to what you do. Also since ehr vskill now builds v meter once airborne you have to decide whether to go for v bar, pure damage or regular bar off a stunned combo which can lead to you second guessing yourself a lot. She has some really great stuff but you have to completely rethink how you go about playing her.
The other problem is that so much of her basic gameplay has changed that you essentially need to re-learn the muscle memory with her as a whole. Her bnbs, anti airs, confirms, playstyle, offense, and all around optimal play are really different now. Because of that I've definitely taken a hit when it comes to playing, since I have to re-evaluate almost everything. I'd imagine most Chuns are dealing with similar issues, which isn't that surprising. Also tons of people dropped her, which also isn't that surprising.
James Chen's changes video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpz7O-5NhY
And did I dream this or was there an official website for the season 2 changes? The Capcom Unity blogpost doesn't mention it.
All this while I've been worried about Necalli, but fucking Karin still got that stupid AA jab lol, I'm willing to say hers is even better than anyone else's. Karin is still good, she got the stupid st.LK and good range on her throw, why aren't more people sticking with her again?
lucebuce12
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Because people are fickle. Also no, her jab really isn't THAT great and it never was that terrific to begin with. Necalli's is still stupid and Juri/Dhalsim/Gief still have terrific jab AAs.
Also Urien and Balrog are "cheaper"
Most certainly false. Juri's AA jab is absolutely insane and has to beat anyone else's in the Season 2 cast.
Hours Left
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Another small accomplishment is the grand scheme of things but I wanted to try for the win 10 ranked matches mission today and I was able to pull it off, even ranking up in the process. Before I wouldn't even have tried it but now I feel more confident.
I think I've never fought a Juri since S2 started since I wouldn't know, but from the Karins I've played against all it takes is an AA jab for them to get a free mix up.
Karsticles
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I actually haven't purchased any of the DLC characters.
Top 5 type character is someone like Urien in this game.
Big HP, big damage, long normals and crazy comeback mechanic with mix ups/damage. He can play honest for most of the game and then play cheap when he's losing to steal games. He just FEELS like a top tier. In marginal games even his HP can help win games.
Similar to Balrog too but Balrog lacks a completely invincible reversal. I know people are going to be like "BUT NO ONE HAS A REVERSAL" but IMO just having the threat of a meter fully invincible reversal is a big deal in this game. Balrog can't escape some stuff that other characters can with the help of EX reversals. You still get a ton of meter in this game. But the character is still insane though.
Cammy is top 5 too. She has pretty much everything except I guess HP and throw loops. The HP thing does matter because characters like Balrog, Urien, Laura and Akuma can kill/stun you in an instant.
Guile and Laura are very strong too and probably top 5 but there are a few issues. Some match ups Guile has a lot of problems like against Balrog. Plus he's not cheap enough, doesn't have insane comeback potential with massive damage/mix ups. But when he's keeping you out he sure feels top tier as hell. Laura has the opposite problem of Guile. She doesn't have great neutral game but when she is in your face she feels top tier as hell. The HP buff is a big deal in this game as well, she can pay more to get in.
Her AA jab stayed the same and it's not great, it loses to all sorts of jump ins. It's very similar to Ryu's now, for example.
Oh and Akuma's AA jab is also really good. Definitely better than Karin's.
That's it! Damn, that is weirdly well hidden. Why would the blogpost now say a word about it?
Well, here are Vega's changes: http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/adjust2017/en/11.html
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Just play all the character story modes and you should have enough for 1 DLC character.
lucebuce12
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Its not so much the fireball ( though that is kind of annoying ) its the fact that he playstyle seems, a bit too limited. Guile Has two damn moves, well now 3. But guile had two moves, and i've seen more diverse Guile play than i've seen laura. Laura does one thing, and its not fun to fight and its boring to play. Makoto had more variety in her play than laura
Yeah pretty spot on with Urien . And on the other hand Chun now has to work harder and her damage got nerfed. The stun nerf is also important, and all the stuff vulva mentioned is on point.
Reizo Ryuu
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Upside down kick is pretty cheap tbh. So is s.bHP. Guyle is probably top 3 in the game more than Chun.
lucebuce12
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Doesn't everything beat that?
Not that I can remember, her one consistently hits without trading same with Alex.
Oh...
SolarPowered
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I may not have a choice anymore because I've found myself not even caring when I win or lose. That last time I felt this way about a game was UMvC3 and I just dropped it cold turkey one day.
I didn't know since Ryu usage cratered in season 2.
Interesting
I'll see if I can do anything with that cr.HP in training mode before I mess around with Necalli.
Karin has shit for AAs outside of her EX Ressenha. Let her hold that mediocre AA jab unless they plan to buff her crush counter cr.HP and st.HP. Most of the cast sorely needs buffs in the high damage AA department.
Don't forget Urien's st.HP crush counter. He just throws that out there constantly like it ain't no thing. Unlike crush counters like Alex's f.HP you can't even duck it, so some Uriens will just keep mashing it until you make a mistake. LPN was right about some CCs being too spam friendly.
Yeah, Makoto was far more interesting to watch and fight (unless it is Alex vs Makoto in 3S in which case that can go to hell).
I'm pretty sure basically everything beats it. Try any button against it in training mode and it should be pretty easy to beat.
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