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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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lucebuce12
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Vic-Rattlehead
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the game hitched on me on three separate times going into a casual match in the last hour, black screen with a froze loading sign in the bottom corner only thing i could do was close application
just got banned and lost 1k points for the third freeze, thanks capcom your game is great
just got banned and lost 1k points for the third freeze, thanks capcom your game is great
Ponytail child Ken is not best Ken
I like alpha Ken the most. SFV ken is my second favorite actually. I really like the idea behind the design. Alpha chun is great too. Would like that as a costume. My conspiracy theory for why they haven't said anything about Alex and Ibuki's nostalgia costume is that they're making one for everyone in the cast who doesn't have one already in conjunction with the relaunch of the game.
Lol
MegamanXZero
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CVS3 can't come any sooner.
Marvel
could never
You know, I'm genuinely curious why they don't just tinker with Ken's face a bit. It's not even something they need to do with the model, just change his char. select pose a bit and it should be fine. I can't imagine it'd take too much work, and I'm sure the guys at Capcom know how bad he looks from certain angles, unless they're even more clueless than I thought.
And speaking of weird looking models, Chun's victory post does a weird thing with her face in most lighting conditions where she looks really bad, and her arms also do some weird warping which is visible on any costume that exposes her upper arm. The victory pose thing is really weird to me too, since it used to be fine in the betas until they changed it for some reason. It's like they're trying to find the most unflattering angles to show off their character models.
And speaking of weird looking models, Chun's victory post does a weird thing with her face in most lighting conditions where she looks really bad, and her arms also do some weird warping which is visible on any costume that exposes her upper arm. The victory pose thing is really weird to me too, since it used to be fine in the betas until they changed it for some reason. It's like they're trying to find the most unflattering angles to show off their character models.
Honestly, stuff like this makes me think they didn't really know what they were doing in regards to balance, and that the fact that the game is mostly balanced as it is was mostly an accident. Chun and Ryu, the two characters they've had the most time to work on, are probably the most broken in the game. Jabs being incredible despite their goal being downplaying that kind of gameplay is just really odd.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
This is my favorite depiction of SFV Ken.
I don't know whether it's official or fan art, but I'm guessing the latter. Of course, he's shown in profile so who knows how it would turn out in 3D, but the things they get right are how angular his face is and how normal his eyes are. I also like how he kind of looks like a Castlevania protagonist to me.
It's just such a bummer that they really nailed Ryu's facial structure (quibbles with his hair modeling aside) but couldn't do it for Ken. Maybe there was too much emphasis on differentiating them and it spilled over from gameplay into appearance. "Ryu looks like a determined fighter with a chiseled face so... let's make Ken look like a moon-faced idiot!"
I don't know whether it's official or fan art, but I'm guessing the latter. Of course, he's shown in profile so who knows how it would turn out in 3D, but the things they get right are how angular his face is and how normal his eyes are. I also like how he kind of looks like a Castlevania protagonist to me.
It's just such a bummer that they really nailed Ryu's facial structure (quibbles with his hair modeling aside) but couldn't do it for Ken. Maybe there was too much emphasis on differentiating them and it spilled over from gameplay into appearance. "Ryu looks like a determined fighter with a chiseled face so... let's make Ken look like a moon-faced idiot!"
He needs smaller eyes, more of a forehead, and some reworking on his creepy teeth/smile. Also, for goodness sake, choose some flattering angles for him.
DR2K
Banned
I mean Zangief and Sim have these pressure tools they're not supposed to have. It just looks ridiculous.
Good parry, but you could've killed him with CA there.
lucebuce12
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This Fan art is so shit, the ingame version looks way better.
So what they wanted to do was to eliminate the use of jabs to be used as the all-purpose safe-pressure/confirm/damage tools that they were in SFIV.
On that front...not sure if they really succeeded.
You can't link jabs into mediums anymore: True, but in counterhit situations you still often can which you will often get with awkward meatty situations or the same frame traps you would always put in or in general countering certain frame traps due to less advantage on block in general. In addition jabs will beat throws often in those situations bc throws are 5 frames and lead to counterhit.
You can't link jabs into damage: You can in counterhits like above, or V-trigger cancels for some. In addition although cammy or karin may not get a ton of damage off jabs they still get knockdown and on their own wakeup a reset to positioning which means a lot in this game as in IV. In addition if they have meter some characters can CA confirm in some way which does mean damage.
Jabs aren't as good as general all purpose buttons like Rog's SFIV jab or Elena's hitbox from hell: True but buttons in general aren't as good, this change feels less pronounced unless you wanted Elena's jab.
People won't want to use jabs as an all purpose defense tool: Not really true for all the reasons above. In fact some characters without reversals don't really have much option to do otherwise. Also, jab AAs are a thing. If people make you respect frametraps you won't, but that was also the case in IV.
On that front...not sure if they really succeeded.
You can't link jabs into mediums anymore: True, but in counterhit situations you still often can which you will often get with awkward meatty situations or the same frame traps you would always put in or in general countering certain frame traps due to less advantage on block in general. In addition jabs will beat throws often in those situations bc throws are 5 frames and lead to counterhit.
You can't link jabs into damage: You can in counterhits like above, or V-trigger cancels for some. In addition although cammy or karin may not get a ton of damage off jabs they still get knockdown and on their own wakeup a reset to positioning which means a lot in this game as in IV. In addition if they have meter some characters can CA confirm in some way which does mean damage.
Jabs aren't as good as general all purpose buttons like Rog's SFIV jab or Elena's hitbox from hell: True but buttons in general aren't as good, this change feels less pronounced unless you wanted Elena's jab.
People won't want to use jabs as an all purpose defense tool: Not really true for all the reasons above. In fact some characters without reversals don't really have much option to do otherwise. Also, jab AAs are a thing. If people make you respect frametraps you won't, but that was also the case in IV.
they definitely changed their design philosophy later on as the game went on. notice that all but 1 DLC character has a 3 bar v trigger and none of them have meterless reversals.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Would have been rushed regardless of who they got
sixteen-bit
Member
Maybe they couldn't afford her
Amazing! That is pretty dope.
A bit rude, but, I support your work in any case.
Those YT comments though huh...
killu4what
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The taunt was more important.
Hellshingu
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So any other gaf members going to be going to PSX for CC top 8?
Trailer below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XP6h_WOE-A
Trailer below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XP6h_WOE-A
sixteen-bit
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as long as it doesn't result in a Marn special
Family Man Ken is best Ken
you mean dad ken
I actually had Dad Ken down but changed it to Family Man Ken for some reason lol
sixteen-bit
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It's by the artist Artgerm (you might enjoy his other art:http://artgerm.deviantart.com/) It was indeed meant as a tribute/fanart, but I saw Capcom use the artwork as official promo art, so they apparently really liked it.
Here's the complete Ken illustration:
CD'S BAR
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best gif material, anyway
what the fuck
ColonialHawk
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That artwork is technically official art work as it was included with the SFV Prima Guide.
Also when's tuxedo Ken?
Also when's tuxedo Ken?
tintin1029
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How in the hell is one day of Juri practice working better for me than 6 months of Mika practice?
some people click with different characters
but potentially beginner's luck
I always body people with a new character for a few hours day 1 and then start getting bodied immediately after
sixteen-bit
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see thread title
It's by the artist Artgerm (you might enjoy his other art:http://artgerm.deviantart.com/) It was indeed meant as a tribute/fanart, but I saw Capcom use the artwork as official promo art, so they apparently really liked it.
Here's the complete Ken illustration:
A print of that was included with the official Prima guide for the game.
It's true, especially for some characters. In SSF4, I did much better with Adon before I actually put work into using him. My wacky attacks were replaced with measured approaches, and it just didn't work as well.
Marvel
could never
Yay GAF is back up.
And it was a happy dance not a taunt, but I suppose he wouldn't know that heh. Oh I get comments like that whenever I link a vid here sadly.
Banned people like to piss and moan any chance they get. Why I rarely do it.
Yeah, was too shook to do it though lol.
And it was a happy dance not a taunt, but I suppose he wouldn't know that heh. Oh I get comments like that whenever I link a vid here sadly.
Banned people like to piss and moan any chance they get. Why I rarely do it.
DR2K
Banned
『Inaba Resident』;225221214 said:
Yeah, probably. Though Kinu has stayed consistent with her style so maybe it would have turned out better.
Nah, i mean if Code of Princess and Culdcept devs can hire her i doubt capcom couldn't lol
Pretty sure all of those are old artworks, and Akuma model looked like he was from T7.
DR2K
Banned
Yeah they looked very suspicious
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