She can only do two bombs right now, can't she?
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edit: oops, I mistook a EX Kunai for a bomb, haha, ignore me!
Mika's giant swing now whiff on crouching opponents.
Heh, that actually happened to me too during the Xian/Du match (I think). I was like what, didn't he use both of his bombs already? Took me a minute to realize.
If Ibuki had three bombs she'd probably be in the running for best character in the game tbh.
Yeah, it was bad timing from my part, as there was indeed around 18 characters in Top 8.
It just happened that Romance and Go1 ran similar teams, and I could only watch this match.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kof/comments/5yu1mr/final_round_top_8_character_composition/
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"Buh-buh-buh-buh-kof is the rightful fighting game goty fuck you capcom!" - people who play neither kof or sf on gaf gaming side
Little ol' fluffball the third has seen better days. Bless his little tired heart. Time to bring in the fourth I suppose.
4 Mais in top 8 means she potentially could have been in every single top 8 match! That's sort of a problem with team based games though, there's more room to pick top-tiers fillers to complement your team.
TheSpoiler
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Daigo was playing Guile in casuals. End of an era? But then again, the balance patch could fix a ton of shit for Ryu, so...
Meanwhile Chris T is trying to act like Ken is anywhere near as bad as Ryu. Like homeboy didn't place because his character is bad, not because he is bad. Momo and Eita are far, far better than him and seeing him whine triggers me.
Yeah, I saw him try to do that. At least, at one point, it was more because Du hopped in the middle of it lol
Also that rushdown on Gief. No fear.
I mean, that isn't to say the game does or doesn't have a balance problem. I have no idea, actually! I do wish more people would play it. Might see more characters being used that way, you know?
Meanwhile Chris T is trying to act like Ken is anywhere near as bad as Ryu. Like homeboy didn't place because his character is bad, not because he is bad. Momo and Eita are far, far better than him and seeing him whine triggers me.
Yeah, I saw him try to do that. At least, at one point, it was more because Du hopped in the middle of it lol
Also that rushdown on Gief. No fear.
I mean, that isn't to say the game does or doesn't have a balance problem. I have no idea, actually! I do wish more people would play it. Might see more characters being used that way, you know?
lucebuce12
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What does what Hyun Sai said have to do with that?
Less variety in the top tiers doesn't somehow make that game any less feature complete or more balanced in general as compared to SF5.
Yeah, that's why Ratio tournaments happened in KoF to promote character variety.
We can only hope, but with how the online search is still buggy and not well thought, the opportunity of attracting new blood was lost long ago
Yeah, sorry, I didn't bother respond to that, my intention was not to stir another pointless war, so I'll leave it at that.
Shadoken
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Wait what ?
Final Round last year had 13 unique characters in Top 32 when the size of the rosterwas just 16 characters.
Season 2 has double the roster and still the same number of unique chars.
Possibly but the you just know if that happened in SFV people would be like "OMGGG CAPCOM FIX YO BALANCE ITS SHIT WAHH" lol. Double standards really.
There's 24 characters not 32. Plus Kolin was recently released so we wouldn't see her at events just yet.
You must have missed the Bird complaints (and else) of KoF XIV pre patch in its community, so the double standard is pretty bullshit.
Nope heard it. All I'm saying is if we saw a repeat of characters in SFV like we do in KoF all hell would have broken loose. The hyperbole would have been off the roof.
And with good reasons :
1 : it's not a team based game, so 4 or 5 same characters in a Top 8 would be even more awkward.
2 : Bigger community, complaints are much more vocals than niche games.
Whatever the game, the community is no less harsh and those games don't "get a pass". On stream at final round, the Jack Army jokes in Tekken 7 were becoming a meme.
That I can agree with 100%.
Zombegoast
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This game does have a balance issue. People pick characters that can keep on the offensive while giving no breathing room. I've seen hit ex reversal too many times because regular reversal have been nerfed and don't expect them spending meter. The only one i have seen block was Fuddo against Du.
Meanwhile KI was the opposite
Meanwhile KI was the opposite
UcchedavÄda
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There were 13 unique characters out of 16 in Top 32 last year, and 18 out of 24 in Top 32 this year. Both results are in line with what you'd expect by chance alone, if we assume that each character is equally likely to be played by a Top 32 player.
Man I really think K-Brad played out of his mind, people talk a lot of shit about how good Cammy is but she's one of the characters where footsies and neutral really need to be top notch to make her shine. Hopefully she doesn't get nerfed because she's really not as OP as much as the players that are making it far are quite skilled. I'd still claim just outside the top five. Also while it might be fun too watch, I would like to see zoning actually become somewhat viable again, I'm still for resetting the white life regeneration to season 1 speed.
CountBlack
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you on the downplay wagon too des?
The Lone Dragon
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The only balance issue this game has is the community.
2 Dhalsims in top 24, but no Uriens. A Ryu in top 32. No Boxers or Uriens in top 16. 2 "nerfed" Mikas in top 8. Even one non-Xian FANG in top 64.
Community is way too impatient.
sixteen-bit
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Based Xian.
Some of those comebacks were amazing. Such a tricky Ibuki.
Some of those comebacks were amazing. Such a tricky Ibuki.
Yes.
CountBlack
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But...that's almost every character in this game!? And Guile, one of the more defensive oriented characters, did really well.
Why do people keep putting asterisks on "nerfed" or saying that the character was "supposedly" nerfed? Regardless of where you think she is in the tier list right now, are these people unable to properly interpret patch notes?
This logic is top tier logic.
Mika is actually fun to watch now. Before it was just clap into bullshit. Now she has to neutral.
Of course, this was Fuudo's Mika, so that probably changes my perception a bit.
spazchicken
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Maybe they seem to think that she wasn't nerfed hard enough?
sixteen-bit
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Fuudo has unquestionably the best Mika, right? Du's looked so weak in comparison.
Can't make that kind of conclusion based on the result of a mirror, if that's what you're referring to. Fuudo has a very different style, though, and it's one that is better suited to the Mika mirror than Du's.
Fuudo was always a little different than most Mikas in that he always played a little more measured and with an eye towards fundamentals and the ground game. This was contrast with the more popular Marn style of Mika play which revolved around the clap and constantly trying to put people in a blender. When they largely nullified that aspect of Mika's game plan it seemed like almost everyone decided to drop her, while Fuudo just stayed cleaning up. It was really great to watch him do his thing at FR.
sixteen-bit
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If that's the case, I wonder why he decided to go with Mika in the last game. He did way better with Guile.
It's just Lone Dragon being Lone Dragon.
Hellshingu
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I ended up missing all of top 8 since my wife went into labor around 5pm. Good news is she gave birth to a beautiful baby girl.
How good is Xian Ibuki? Do you think any of it has to do with top players not having experience against I nuking in the hands of a player as skilled as Xian? I hope to be able to catch top 8 sometime this week once we are back home. Can't wait for the Ibuki army online until the next major.
How good is Xian Ibuki? Do you think any of it has to do with top players not having experience against I nuking in the hands of a player as skilled as Xian? I hope to be able to catch top 8 sometime this week once we are back home. Can't wait for the Ibuki army online until the next major.
TheSpoiler
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Congrats man!
Xian's Ibuki might be the strongest one so far. He was doing setups that I haven't seen before. Dirty. A lot of people are gonna give him shit for popping v-trigger, but he was playing solid the whole time, even meeting Fuudo in the air.
Nemo also details why his Ibuki was so good:
https://twitter.com/fubarduck/status/841228309170180096
that was my impression as well.
Also letting Xian hold on to meter is bad, V or EX. If he has both it's basically Gen's Super > Ultra again.
Getting him to spend it is ideal
Yo, congrats!
sixteen-bit
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Congrats on the new arrival, Hellshingu
sixteen-bit
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Hopefully they buff Laura and Urien so they can place at CPT events
CountBlack
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Another reason why I think they should let more bigger tournaments happen before doing another patch. Tbh tho Season 2 is kinda just feeling like a loke test ever since they announced that they were going to do another balance change.
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