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[Interficium]

Don't nerf strong characters just buff weak ones and problem solved. For the most part but Its capcom

I'm guessing Urien will be Ryu'd in this patch and fall to below mid-tier. +2 cr.mk can go away (pretty obvious) but once you start fucking with EX shoulder or his other medium buttons it'll start getting bad.

Laura they might take away some frames from her blockstrings, will probably still be no lower than top 10 just based on the game in general favoring characters that can inflict a lot of 50/50 setups on opponents.

They'll probably take some damage off of Rog's ex stuff so he does half your life bar after vtrigger instead of 60%. He'll still be really good.

I could easily see them overbuffing either Alex or Akuma or both, at which point people will wish the meta was still Urien/Laura/Rog/Guile, lol.

People after the patch are going to be like WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST BUFF THE WEAK CHARACTERS CAPCOM FUCKING NEVER LISTENS and completely ignore the fact that people have been hyperbolic about nerfing the top tier in season 2 as if we were talking about third strike or something. In no way has the community been rational about S2, even when confronted with the hard data like a few pages back.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

My thoughts on Urien is that they have to reduce his derp factor. That means making his crunch -4 or more on block at all ranges, removing his +2 mk and reducing his damage off off CC by a bit.

I'd be fine if he's still top, just if he's less silly.

Guile and Rog need their damage toning down.

A system-wide change (maybe making normal throws have longer range and faster) would wipe out a lot of remaining problems.

Make throws 3f and buff their range by a bit - no death by shimmy. Compensate by removing throw loops.

 

[Sayad]

Make throws 3f and buff their range by a bit - no death by shimmy. Compensate by removing throw loops.

This would be horrible in SFV system where you can't throw tech OS, normals are so slow, 90% of normals move characters throw hurtboxes forward before the attack is active not to mention throws beat normals any way if they land on the same frame.

 

[Village]

Fuck that too

Give me a non shitty spiral DDT instead.

Fuck that give me Ibuki and Juri's old movesets!!

 

[TheSpoiler]

Okay but all Capcom has to do is buff every character and that will make everyone happy.
But they need to nerf a few characters.
But also no nerfs for anyone.
But please nerf.

Also, how different were the beta changes to the S2 changes? I recall some stuff not making it in.

 

[lucebuce12]

One change that was in S2 that I'd like to see more of in the future is more combo and juggle opportunities.

Birdie needed it but while Chun didn't need it, it's certainly a darn good change for her. If nothing else, it allows us to have fun with more fancier and higher execution combos.

 

[Pompadour]

I thought this story from Eventhubs was fairly amusing.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017...hrough-fgc-history-shows-it-repeating-itself/

I'm glad to get some confirmation for something I knew was true all along.

 

[ibrahima]

Make throws 3f and buff their range by a bit - no death by shimmy. Compensate by removing throw loops.

In a game where a significant number of characters don't have a 3f normal you want 3f throws with extended range. Mad man. Wake up throws for days.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Make throws 3f and buff their range by a bit - no death by shimmy. Compensate by removing throw loops.

Hell naw. And people need to stop mashing throw on wakeup. Shimmy is awesome. People love their panic buttons.

 

[ElFly]

Make throws 3f and buff their range by a bit - no death by shimmy. Compensate by removing throw loops.

as a zangief main, I approve of this message

I feel my LP SPD is too slow and short ranged, kappa

 

[Zombegoast]

Some Crush Counters needs to have longer start up. Balrog shouldn't be doing St.HK after a St.HK. What character does a CC after CC?

Urien should't combo his Cr.HP after a CH Medium. This is probably the second dumbest buff next to his Cr.MK

They need to revert Nash's Jump in. How can you go from "yeah we're going to change Light AA to Fuck you Nash we're going to expand your jump in Hurtbox and reduce the Hitbox?"

Doing normal rise should actually be rewarding instead of "He didn't quick rise on my Meaty Thunder Kick, let me Meaty Thunder Kick Again or Let me Meaty Dash in St.MP after my Light Shoulder"

Get rid of Iframes on Bison's EX Devil's Reverse Hands. Why does this move have two Iframes in it's start up and is Safe?

Ken and Ibuki's OH needs to be -6 OB like the other cast.

 

[lucebuce12]

What character does a CC after CC?.

FANG

And we know how amazing his st.hp is.

 

[mnz]

Nah, it's the actual announcement this time. Patch will come sometime next week since they want it before eLeague.

You've said that a few times, but what's the source?

 

[Zombegoast]

FANG

And we know how amazing his st.hp is.

On Block?

 

[sixteen-bit]

The announcement will be more maintenance

 

[lucebuce12]

On Block?

Spoiler

Only if you believe hard enough!!

I thought you meant after a successful CC, didn't realize you meant oB.

 

[mbpm1]

Ken and Ibuki's OH needs to be -6 OB like the other cast.

Nah make all overheads -2

 

[Skilletor]

Ken and Ibuki's OH needs to be -6 OB like the other cast.

Then make Ibuki's overhead should be sped up to make up for it. It's super easy to react to. It's best used for throw bait than an overhead.

 

[Zombegoast]

Then make Ibuki's overhead should be sped up to make up for it. It's super easy to react to. It's best used for throw bait than an overhead.

I'm fine with that. The problem is that her V-trigger obscure her

 

[Ucchedavāda]

Some Crush Counters needs to have longer start up. Balrog shouldn't be doing St.HK after a St.HK. What character does a CC after CC?

I'm not sure I understand why that is what you take issue with. Balrog's stHK is +3 on block, so you shouldn't be pressing buttons after blocking it, anyway. If you want to tone down that button, then make it less plus on block.

 

[mbpm1]

I'm fine with that. The problem is that her V-trigger obscure her

That's why it's fun

 

[ColonialHawk]

tfw you lose ~500 points due to one-sided rollback matches

Rip super gold status ;_;

I would just like to see Alex get a better MK/cr.MK cause really its meh.

Edit: Oh and his v-reversal. If aren't gonna give my boi an invincible reversal, at least give him a good v-reversal.

 

[Ucchedavāda]

tfw you lose ~500 points due to one-sided rollback matches

Rip super gold status ;_;

I would just like to see Alex get a better MK/cr.MK cause really its meh.

Edit: Oh and his v-reversal. If aren't gonna give my boi an invincible reversal, at least give him a good v-reversal.

Jeez, that sucks, but that video did make me laugh out loud.

 

[Zombegoast]

Most of the matches were bad last night. Only Dieminion's connection was solid

 

[mbpm1]

Momochi training rhythm

 

[Bigg_Oggy]

Momochi training rhythm

Gotta have our players fit to compete

 

[ColonialHawk]

Momochi training rhythm

Practicing for the Just Dance World Cup 2018

 

[TheSpoiler]

You've said that a few times, but what's the source?

Someone here said they heard it on what I assume to be WSO a few pages back.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

I feel like a kid in a car asking "are we there yet" with regards to this patch. Jeeze.

Today is likely the EVO Japan news - probably of Capcom financial support for it...

So next week is the big patch I guess. :/ I just want to know how badly they are going to nerf Birdie.

 

[lucebuce12]

*passes out*

http://artgerm.deviantart.com/art/Chunli-Glamour-654947420

 

[MCD250]

Okay but all Capcom has to do is buff every character and that will make everyone happy.
But they need to nerf a few characters.
But also no nerfs for anyone.
But please nerf.

Also, how different were the beta changes to the S2 changes? I recall some stuff not making it in.

I seem to recall some pros reporting things in the PSX build of the game that didn't make it into the S2 patch (Cammy having an air throw is the biggest one I recall). Maybe some of those things will be brought back with the new patch.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Just hitting its stride

 

[Ucchedavāda]

*passes out*

That is really great.

It's a shame that Capcom has only released the Summer costume that Akiman designed, the other ones (and that one in particular) look great too:

EDIT: SFV hitting its stride?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Too bad Akiman didn't draw the story mode stills as well

 

[mbpm1]

That is really great.

It's a shame that Capcom has only released the Summer costume that Akiman designed, the other ones (and that one in particular) look great too:

is that wedding dress chun

 

[lucebuce12]

is that wedding dress chun

Tekken 7's got Nina, SF5 will get Chun.

 

[Bigg_Oggy]

Don't know why this isn't a costume. Figure it would sell like crazy.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Don't know why this isn't a costume. Figure it would sell like crazy.

I think it's in development.

They said that in summer of last year, so who knows, lol.

 

[mbpm1]

Tekken 7's got Nina, SF5 will get Chun.

we need to know who she married tho

Spoiler

it's Ryu

 

[MCD250]

Who is Chun getting married to?

 

[lucebuce12]

Who is Chun getting married to?

The only one who gives Chun lovely gifts.

 

[mbpm1]

The only one who gives Chun lovely gifts.

Can't be, she's taken by Juri

 

[MCD250]

I don't think Chun wants that gift, going by the way she looks at it.

 

[lucebuce12]

Can't be, she's taken by Juri

That was just a one time thing.

I don't think Chun wants that gift, going by the way she looks at it.

Playing hard to get.

 

[Ucchedavāda]

That was just a one time thing.

There's a surprising amount of Juri x Chun-Li shipping out there.

 

[Femto.]

Nah, the reason the top three need scaling is because they play differently once they hit the triggers. Urien's ARs, Laura's setups, and Rog's v-trigger combos take less work than other characters and do more damage with minimal resources. Rashid, Ibuki, and Akuma all have to put in real work in comparison. I'm always wary of scaling shit unless it's for characters that get stupid shit off it.

Laura top three? Where's Guile?

That dude is perfect in almost every way.

 

[mbpm1]

I think Juri goes after Cammy in this story mode. But she was on Chun in SFIV for sure

 

[TheSpoiler]

Laura top three? Where's Guile?

That dude is perfect in almost every way.

I meant top three who play their own game, mostly. Guile is fine, the shit he does is way more honest than the other three I mentioned. And people aren't too mad about him showing up as much as the others.

 

[lucebuce12]

There's a surprising amount of Juri x Chun-Li shipping out there.

Juri x Chun-Li is right up there with Junkrat x Mercy as the weirdest shipping.

Spoiler

Pharmercy is the real ship.

 

[Femto.]

I meant top three who play their own game, mostly. Guile is fine, the shit he does is way more honest than the other three I mentioned. And people aren't too mad about him showing up as much as the others.

Fair enough, I'm just fearful that Capcom will gutter the others (Rog, Urien, Laura) because of community outcry. Keep them strong but make them fair, can Capcom do that? We'll see.

Spoiler

Probably not.