Urien got nerfed, but it wasn't as bad as some (myself included) were expecting. As long as all of the changes are like what Capcom said here, Urien's changes seem pretty fair.
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Street Fighter V |OTVII| New Generation - Connection To Haters Was Lost
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Spuck-uk
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Because she's won all these tournaments that she hasn't, or because you can't handle characters with bad neutral and half decent oki?
They don't want S1 Nash/Chun back and are probably in "wait and see" mode on those two.
Laura does not have bad neutral.
TheSpoiler
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Characters having lower health means she doesn't have to work as hard to kill. Go1's fights against Rog would have ended sooner if the patch was around.
Biggest problem with this patch is that I have to dick around with a shitty Akuma for like a whole month, and that this patch will trigger my character crisis dilemma again.
Nash still got a couple of buffs.
So what does the Laura change mean? Can she no longer get meaty elbows on knockdown?
Also, it seems like they're finally living up to the "buff weak characters, leave strong characters alone" philosophy (along with some much needed normalization on Urien). Whether or not the buffs are enough for characters like Alex and FANG remains to be seen though.
Also, it seems like they're finally living up to the "buff weak characters, leave strong characters alone" philosophy (along with some much needed normalization on Urien). Whether or not the buffs are enough for characters like Alex and FANG remains to be seen though.
sixteen-bit
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Back to S1 according to CountBlack
TheSpoiler
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Hopefully that means we'll get content this month then.
CountBlack
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Still has meaty elbows, but they shouldn't be +1 on block after certain situations anymore.
If you're a 4f character you're still screwed tho
0 imstead of +1
TheTylerRob
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I feel like Cammy only got buffs? Isn't jump back OS removal a decent buff to most characters with fast walk speed?
UcchedavÄda
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I've created a thread for the balance changes:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232114538
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232114538
She did, but the DP/Air Throw buff her on defense, which seems fine.
Zombegoast
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Slight Input Delay >>> SFV's Netcode. This game does the opposite of what Rollback is suppose to do. Instead of the controls being unresponsive, it's frames being unsync by half a second which is no better then delayed based netcode. It makes it impossible to react to M.Bison's Dash in CC and doing meaties and other things while at ADV is gone as well. I don't know how many times I hit Dhalsim just for him to teleport out when I see hit sparks and the game rollback him in his favor.
I would play KI but DS4 Windows has issues with the game and Microsoft just wants me to by an Xbox Controller.
I would play KI but DS4 Windows has issues with the game and Microsoft just wants me to by an Xbox Controller.
sixteen-bit
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And its slowly turning into a stealth sfv hate topic
I like how the third post is asking about arcade mode
I thought DPs still weren't invincible? They just made LP throw invincible, MP air invincible, and HP fully invincible from frame 3.
Damn it.
Yeah, just read it and I can definitely live with that. The change to EX headbutt is whatever, and honestly I agree with it, playing with Nash on Season 1 taught me to block and not throw DPs randomly, so it doesn't affect me as much, in fact people can't complain now about not being able to punish him because he recovered too fast to react. I wonder if they increased recovery on block too, I suppose they did.
It will come before evo...believe
Always when do we hear about the next character?
I don't even know what the OS removal means for the game. I feel like that's another one of these big changes where we will soon realise what it means and then people will ask for another patch lol
Nerf Cammy
TheSpoiler
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The hurtbox extensions were good, but maybe adding more damage to the fireballs or making them do something different would have been nice.
And am I reading this wrong, or did v-reversals not return to their former glory?
UcchedavÄda
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They fixed what looks like a bug with crouching V-reversals, but that's it.
What it means is immediately apparent. Characters who have a strong throw game have been given an indirect buff, just like grapplers were given with the removal of all-around invincible DPs. Removal of the throw OS also is an indirect buff to grapplers. The guessing game will be a lot more intense for an opponent when you're in their face. They can't just do the OS to evade everything; they'll have to either eat a throw or try to tech the throw and potentially get counter hit. No third option of "evade the situation altogether" anymore.
Probably the first week of April. Kolin was revealed about three weeks before her release.
I'm glad Rog survived and the nerfs made sense for him. The Shoryuken changes are the most appreciated because those moves seemed pretty pointless after S2.
The new moves give me hope for more substantial updates like Super SF4. I assumed we were doomed to frame tweaking for V's lifespan.
The new moves give me hope for more substantial updates like Super SF4. I assumed we were doomed to frame tweaking for V's lifespan.
TheSpoiler
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Ucchedavāda;232115178 said:
Okay, that's probably the only thing I take issue with in a large fashion. Was really hoping to see defensive measures get better in this game. Not a huge deal breaker considering it seems like most of the cast is getting their toolsets so they can work again, but still.
You're right. Separate invincibility so players have to choose the right one.
lucebuce12
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Some of these changes are literally just reverting back to season 1.
Like for FANG and Birdie and Guile.
Like for FANG and Birdie and Guile.
sixteen-bit
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I wonder how Gief's new moves will affect the Sim matchup
TheSpoiler
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Wait
Wait wait wait
Where's Bison?
Did my dude escape the nerfs? And the throw OS is gonna make him stronger?
Wait wait wait
Where's Bison?
Did my dude escape the nerfs? And the throw OS is gonna make him stronger?
I mean, obviously the simple meaty/throw 50/50 is stronger because of it. But I feel like this could change whole match-ups, because that simple loop could lead to different combo enders or a preference for corner carries instead of damage for some characters.
Not that simple in my opinion.
But honestly, it's a high level of play change. I rarely see it online anyway.
TheTylerRob
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DPs changing is the only thing that can really be considered a nerf. I should go back to playing him lol.
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