lol have you ever played a Balrog with V-Trigger?
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lol have you ever played a Balrog with V-Trigger?
Shadoken
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I am telling you guys , its a conspiracy. Woshige and his Anime buddies purposely infiltrated the SF dev team and planted the seed of Anime in the game. While doing a poor job of the balance.
Now that the pure SF honest fanbase have tasted the anime mixups , they will want to play anime games where defensive options actually exist.
With certain characters yes, but you still need to learn how to block and anticipate when your character does this. With SFIV I felt ultras were way too spammy and rewarded the character too much for receiving damage. This is all my personally opinion by the way, I like certain aspects of what SFIV did and had fun watching while it lasted but it's just not for me.
You get rewarded for receiving damage here too.
Floe put it best. You're more afraid of the person without life than you are with the person with it. The person with life has no v-meter and the person without it has v-trigger cancels and can't be chipped. With Ultras you can spend it and be gone, but with some characters in this game you activate, get a huge combo, and get a continued power up that can actually allow previous scrubby play to become overbearing. Also if you're necalli you just become a better character forever lol
In my short time with USF4 (which I'll admit doesn't mean much since I was a total scrub at the time and only played Ryu), I at the very least felt like I got beaten by superior play online. In SFV, I'm always salty because it feels like I got scrubbed out by top tier shenanigans or guessing wrong over and over. Hell, I even get punished for correct reads in this game.
Shadoken
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I think what McCarter is getting at is that in SFIV , literally every char can do a random ultra and get a boatload of damage.
In SFV however only certain chars can get that same damage.
But here is where the argument falls apart. In SFIV , ultras were HEAVILY punishable on block. In SFV blocked VTC is plus on block or at worst -3.
In SFV however only certain chars can get that same damage.
But here is where the argument falls apart. In SFIV , ultras were HEAVILY punishable on block. In SFV blocked VTC is plus on block or at worst -3.
Not as much as SFIV.
I agreed what Floe said and I've felt the same while playing the game, which is why I believe a better defensive mechanic has to be in place. They should revert back the grey-bar life back to S1 too.
I'm honestly feeling the same way.
True. I don't think the game is in a particular bad state (outside of content issues) but not releasing the new 2.1 patch and going back to the drawing board regarding thier philosophy of balance didn't really help matters. SFIV took 6 years to get to a overall "balanced" package so I certainly think SFV can do this much sooner considering how S1 resonated very well with everyone.
TheSpoiler
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If you play Alex or Juri, it's not going to get better. If you want more defense it's not going to get better unless you have a DP.
If you are a mid tier character you'll probably get to have more fun with the buffs. But if you don't like Rog that ain't changing.
If you are a mid tier character you'll probably get to have more fun with the buffs. But if you don't like Rog that ain't changing.
Juri has a dp tho
Karsticles
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S1 resonated well with everyone? More like Beta 1 did.
TheSpoiler
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Juri is eternal booty so she doesn't count
And Beta 1 did not. Shit was stupid, damage was worse, and people were thinking that SFV was busted if it released like that.
And Beta 1 did not. Shit was stupid, damage was worse, and people were thinking that SFV was busted if it released like that.
I can't wait to see Vega shenanigans.
In comparison to S2 it was fun and apparently balanced. Floe even said that in his BornFree interview.
In hindsight, S1 was a lot better than 2 because it wasn't as random outside of a couple characters.
Gipsy Danger
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I know you guys all hate SFV and everything but I made it to Top 8 in this online tournament. For anyone interested to watch, I'm Launchpad, although I'm against Gibbygreatness first so I'm probably going straight out lol.
Gordon Shumway
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Good luck!
TheSpoiler
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SF makes you have amnesia about the previous version/game so it's expected.
Good thing Capcom is so lazy and never updates their Trials so you can relieve all of the old versions...in piecemeal
sixteen-bit
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Kind of off topic, but Street Fighter II has been inducted into the VGHOF
https://www.apnews.com/79d438b3f375...bat-Evolved'-among-4-video-game-HOF-inductees
Well-deserved, imo. SF2 was a game changer.
https://www.apnews.com/79d438b3f375...bat-Evolved'-among-4-video-game-HOF-inductees
Well-deserved, imo. SF2 was a game changer.
sixteen-bit
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It's not like that many new combos are possible. Most of the trials probably still work and coming up with new trials within this combo system would be hard for the majority of the cast.
CountBlack
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the damage I got for comboing into an ultra is the same damage I get for doing st.MK V-Trigger
except with V-Trigger I also get a mixup afterwards
Balrog cr.MK TC -> VT -> Full corner carry -> 50-60% -> st.HK or grab -> one more hit then stun -> thanks for playing yall
except with V-Trigger I also get a mixup afterwards
Balrog cr.MK TC -> VT -> Full corner carry -> 50-60% -> st.HK or grab -> one more hit then stun -> thanks for playing yall
Don't you get hard knockdown on ultra tho? You can set things up
ColonialHawk
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I don't think Ultras contribute to stun tho
Gipsy Danger
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It was always gonna be Balrog 
. I'll take 5th.
. I'll take 5th.TheSpoiler
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It was always gonna be Balrog
That's something to be proud of man, congrats! You can only get better.
Gipsy Danger
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Yeah I'm really pleased with my performance. It's my first Top 8 in this weekly after 4 attempts. Got a lot left to learn but very pleased with my progress.
It was always gonna be Balrog
Commiserations, better luck next time!
It was always gonna be Balrog
Hey, you made it a good way. Nice.
TheSpoiler
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Watch over your last match and see what you did wrong. Many people forget to do that. I gotta remind myself when I play this weekend even when I get my shit rocked.
Gipsy Danger
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Doing that right now haha.
CountBlack
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deejay -12 after U2 bois
In the same boat. And I'm coming from a place of salt and "buff my character!". Nothing like that at all, I just don't like what I'm playing. I hate someone getting v trigger and footies/neutral going out the window. Just not for me.
Gordon Shumway
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Likely played that game more than any other in my entire life..maybe MKII, but I doubt it. Met my girl playing that shit..😁
Shadoken
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Didnt one of the articles state something along the lines of "More info on the new character and Balance changes coming soon!" ?
The real question is are you still together?
I was very young when this game was released but played the hell out of it on the SNES in the later years. Definitely deserves that accolade because without that game we wouldn't be getting a lot of these fighters out today.
yeah, i mean they cant just leave chun like that
Shadoken
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But didn't every Chun player complain about accidentally getting lightning legs. That was one of her BIGGEST weaknesses kappa.
Gordon Shumway
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The real question is are you still together?
I was very young when this game was released but played the hell out of it on the SNES in the later years. Definitely deserves that accolade because without that game we wouldn't be getting a lot of these fighters out today.
Absolutely..😁. Still play Street Fighter weekly.
Now SIX inputs to get LL
Edit: Of course this is a pretty significant buff so they'd have to take away something. I'm thinking making cr mp no longer VT cancelable.
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