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Street Fighter V |OTVII| New Generation - Connection To Haters Was Lost
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TheSpoiler
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People say a lot of shit on social media and the internet, but the results aren't there. I think locals should host 4 as a side tournament, but I wouldn't expect turnouts to be high besides a select few spots.
That's not really a quality thing, it's just that people move onto the next game. Same reason people don't fuck with 3 despite hating 4, and so on.
I mean, beyond the vitriol of SFV, it's kinda what happens with fighting games in general. People promise to support a game and do fuck all unless it's sustaining itself. Even without CPT funds, a game can still live for many years after the expiration date. It just takes work, and people don't wanna put that work in all the time.
I feel like that's what it actually might be, because I don't think I was really messing up the meaties during those circumstances. But, if that's the case, that sounds insane. It's unfortunately not something that can be easily tested in Training mode.
Apparently it's frame 1 invincible with level 7 and up according to FAT, but that also doesn't' sound right since level 7 is pretty rare. Maybe it shifts his hurtbox?
That's one of the things I respect about the Melee scene. They actually put in work towards keeping their game alive & well.
Emperor Bohe
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Ucchedavāda;230682626 said:
Yo if it's in downtown Toronto then I will come through with my Honda for once
I agree. Which is what makes it kinda humorous.
Oh, the hurtbox... huh. That might be it. I'll look into this.
TheSpoiler
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That's super cool of them, especially for a game that old.
One of my projects this year is to dedicate a lot of time into keeping Gundam Versus alive when it launches. I kinda fell off Full Boost but there's no excuse for dropping a game I enjoy.
CountBlack
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all those neutral jump fierces 😔
Emperor Bohe
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I miss them so much
Real talk, TAP is bullshit. They should nerf that move. Dunno why they thought giving it +1 for each level of TAP starting at -2 was a good idea. He just skips neutral for free vs characters with a 4 frame normal once he gets past level 1.
Birdie's much better in VT, but he still has a lot of fatal weaknesses. That's assuming you get into VT with life to spare considering how many characters can just touch him once and then it's frame trap city against his slow normals.
Well, when you put it that way.
Def sounds like a hurtbox thing.
Check out the TAP hit/hurtboxes in slo-mo and HD: https://youtu.be/XzdfPTjjowE?t=87
Check out Lady Mika's hitbox (RMKS2, 6HP): http://toolassisted.github.io/LOL/
Lady Mika looks to have a fairly high hitbox.
Reizo Ryuu
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Ok that's disgusting, I didn't know most of his hurtbox just disappears.
Alright, so I managed to recreate a reversal timing LVL 1 TAP in Training mode, and I found that I'm just crazy: I guess I'm just frequently missing my meaty timings in that 2f window against Rog. His hurtbox does shift as the move is performed, but Lady Mika worked, and everything else too. Naturally, though, he's throw invincible on frame 1; maybe hesitation concerning that was always throwing me off.
So it's kinda like Zangief's Lariat. If your meaty timing isn't really on point, you'll get blown up for it.
So it's kinda like Zangief's Lariat. If your meaty timing isn't really on point, you'll get blown up for it.
allintospace
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If I was going to try and pick up Mika, would I benefit from watching Youtube tutorials that were from Season 1 or would that hinder me? I can't find anything definitively Season 2 related that's thorough.
Reizo Ryuu
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Most stuff in videos should work fine except crHP baits/links.
Also have to ignore anything that has to do with EX Peach oki in S1 videos, or concerning wall bounce combos or resets. Same for some basic BnBs since her st.LP is now 4 frames.
Have to ignore some Nadeshiko xx Wingless Airplane resets because of the proximity blocking nerf. Also same for V-Reversal oki.
Oh, just a normal SFIV move
You sure he was doing TAP lvl 1? Not sure why he'd use that as a reversal when he can just charge it longer to make it real...
Oh yeah, if you watch that link I posted up top, he was using TAP LVL 1-3 all the time to mess up my (not real) block strings and call out my apparently messed up meaties.
J_Macgrady
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Hey man could
Can I ask you a favor
Could you host I would like to stream the affair
J_Macgrady
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Ok. What's your CFN?
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Collateral22
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Re downloaded this the other day, is it normal to have every character bar Akuma unlocked? I have only ever bought Guile and Balrog. Have them all unlocked now. Says Purchased in the store.
bob_arctor
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ColonialHawk
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Might've bought the season pass? Or the deluxe edition? Or you've been blessed and have been given free characters!
SquirrelSoup
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Collateral22
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Angry Bird FANG on Rog's stream LMAO 😂
https://clips.twitch.tv/pr_balrog/TalentedKoupreyPunchTrees
https://clips.twitch.tv/pr_balrog/TalentedKoupreyPunchTrees
sixteen-bit
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GOAT BGM too
J_Macgrady
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GGs. Your Balrog and Necalli were solid. Sorry about the character select thing earlier. Thought I had it set to on already.
I'm shocked they didn't give him a halloween costume.
You'd think he of all people...
Here's TAP vs. Mika.
TAPing a Mika V-Trigger setup.
Now this Mika wasn't getting the hint, but this move alone means that this is an MU Mika definitely does not have the advantage in (though, playing both characters, I knew that going into S2). The #1 complaint Balrogs had against Mika was that they had no defensive options once they're trapped in the blender (like that's different than most of the cast), but Balrog actually has a very good one.
Something I hadn't thought about before, but that I think might be true, is that Mika's meaty game can be pretty nebulous for her compared to the proper pressure of other characters. That's probably intentional, so that a KD from her doesn't mean that you're not going to have your turn for a long while, and instead revolves around the command grab guessing game. It's why KDR > Dash off of a Brimstone leaves her only at +2, and stuff like that.
The side effect of this is that using TAP liberally is an actual, legitimate tool vs. Mika. And it's kinda silly. I wasn't even using it at clear times I should have in that match (and I was mainly focusing on using it all the time), since I just came across this rare Mika in Ranked and I wanted to experiment with it. But man, if I had actually been playing efficiently there, it would have been even worse for her.
TAPing a Mika V-Trigger setup.
Now this Mika wasn't getting the hint, but this move alone means that this is an MU Mika definitely does not have the advantage in (though, playing both characters, I knew that going into S2). The #1 complaint Balrogs had against Mika was that they had no defensive options once they're trapped in the blender (like that's different than most of the cast), but Balrog actually has a very good one.
Something I hadn't thought about before, but that I think might be true, is that Mika's meaty game can be pretty nebulous for her compared to the proper pressure of other characters. That's probably intentional, so that a KD from her doesn't mean that you're not going to have your turn for a long while, and instead revolves around the command grab guessing game. It's why KDR > Dash off of a Brimstone leaves her only at +2, and stuff like that.
The side effect of this is that using TAP liberally is an actual, legitimate tool vs. Mika. And it's kinda silly. I wasn't even using it at clear times I should have in that match (and I was mainly focusing on using it all the time), since I just came across this rare Mika in Ranked and I wanted to experiment with it. But man, if I had actually been playing efficiently there, it would have been even worse for her.
FadedRevolution
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London stage looks alot better without that damn filter on it.
Tell me what I did wrong ( A bunch of match footage where I got rocked )
Eh, they are kind of bad and I need to play as them more. I used to be better at them, but I have been using urien and Bison and lost a bunch of stuff. Though the thing i'm actually proud of myself for doing is attempting to anti air.
Also tell me how to fight karin, I don't know.
Eh, they are kind of bad and I need to play as them more. I used to be better at them, but I have been using urien and Bison and lost a bunch of stuff. Though the thing i'm actually proud of myself for doing is attempting to anti air.
Also tell me how to fight karin, I don't know.
The pre order costume is kinda gaudy to me. I figured they'd give him something eventually. Yet here we are..
Kinda building on what I was saying earlier, using TAP liberally is a legit tool in a lot of matchups. It lets him essentially skip neutral and be at worst -2. This move is great against Birdie whose 4f normal already has trouble dealing with Balrog's 3f normal.
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