I like her default a lot too. The nostalgia costume is good in concept, but I don't think it works too well in game given her fighting stance.
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I like her default a lot too. The nostalgia costume is good in concept, but I don't think it works too well in game given her fighting stance.
Birdie's Bullhorn is actually a pretty trash antiair. It's good later in the animation of the move, but anything that comes at you fast is gonna hit you hard for a full combo. It is an important move in his arsenal though. Birdie's V Skills are trash in terms of startup and recovery. Way too hard to get out unless the opponent respects you for whatever reason. One thing that you weren't doing is bullslide on reaction to laura fireball startup. It's usually free and prevents her from getting that garbage started. Her normals were buffed so it's a bit harder in S2 than S1 though.
What's really bullshit is a lot of them anti-air. Moves like that should NOT be beating jump attacks.
Thing is, Birdie was nerfed so that he could have EX Bullhead be frame 1 armor and safe (in VT). I agree that it's dumb, but you take that away from him and he goes from bad to probably the worst character in the game. I'd prefer if they just changed him back to how he was in S1.
I'd consider buying it if I made progress learning her, but I'll definitely be spending FM on the story costume immediately.
Learning Kolin is going to be interesting though. She seems incredibly complicated, with low damage on top of that. V-Trigger shenanigans are going to be really fun since it lasts until she gets hit, meaning you're going to be playing some serious mind games with her counters once you've got them trying to get rid of the stunbar freeze. Unless they have projectiles.
lucebuce12
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There's another character that fits that description.
OmegaTreeFish
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When is it safe to agtack bison as mika? Got destroyed by a plat bison in 2 first to threes. It felt like everything he did beats me and when it is safe to hit with something its only a lk if im lucky.
I kmow its cause i suck but damn is it annoying when you feel that helpless.
I kmow its cause i suck but damn is it annoying when you feel that helpless.
Yep, it's juri.
If he's plat and you're not near the level general advice won't help too much. He'll be reading. Need a video to help.
Definitely sounds like a struggle, but the counters still have me really excited to try her. I desperately want to learn her and expand my playstyles.
Depending on the players involved someone will want to come in or play lame, and who wants that may change as the match goes. Could be fun-esque, for this game.
Huw_Dawson
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Oh, I mean all the natter about game improvements, not just balance patching. Like getting the CFN servers working more reliably.
TheSpoiler
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The server update was mentioned too, although the CFN part in general wasn't as far as I know.
On that note, I haven't had any errors today ten matches in. Crossing those fingers, but I'd like to assume Capcom is making changes in the background and will spring up a "LOL BIG SERVER UPDATE COMING IN PATCH" when most of the work has been getting done for months. Just need to smooth out this CFN shit and keep the errors on the low. And jesus christ cut down the loading times.
Fun fact: by the end of this year, SFV will have more characters who aren't playable in the SFIV series than those who are.
I miss Abel, Seth, and Gouken, but I sure as fuck don't miss Hakan, El, fucking Rufus, and Oni.
I never played Street Fighter IV. I was away from videogames at the time it came out and it never entered my radar after I came back. I bought it a few months ago, after V started giving me the Street Fighter bug. I boot it up from time to time, just to mess around. It took like 90 seconds of trying out El Fuerte in training mode to realize why it must have been such a pain in the ass to fight him and why people compared S1 Mika to him.
Beyond that, the main takeaway for me was that I don't think I like SFIV very much.
Beyond that, the main takeaway for me was that I don't think I like SFIV very much.
Oni was cool, and we pretty much have him in the form of SFV's Akuma.
Always felt off to me.
SF5 immediately felt closer to the SF I'm used to than SF4 did after years of playing.
It's so ugly too.
I were Capcom I probably would have gone with hand-drawn sprites instead.
SF4 is one of the few mainline SF games that I got bored with in just a short time. Hell, I would rather watch people play the game than actually playing the game myself. Even then...
To me, it was just that the game felt off in some way to me. I gave it a chance for a couple years, then I dropped it around the time Arcade Edition came out. I found myself playing SFxT more than I did for SF4.
TheSpoiler
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Ultras were great...until you had to view them over and over again. Then everyone got tired of that shit. CAs might be cut down and less flashy but they are less intrusive overall.
SFV Akuma is like if Oni was fun.
SFV Akuma is like if Oni was fun.
i hate that guy
That's actually pretty cool.Fun fact: by the end of this year, SFV will have more characters who aren't playable in the SFIV series than those who are.
Nemesis121
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Fun fact: by the end of this year, SFV will have more characters who aren't playable in the SFIV series than those who are.
S3 will fix that..
sixteen-bit
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I love desk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=temkz8pXrMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=temkz8pXrMA
If season three is anything like season one we could end up getting four IV characters and two non-IV characters, which would actually give us an even split of IV and non-IV characters.
SolarPowered
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NeatFun fact: by the end of this year, SFV will have more characters who aren't playable in the SFIV series than those who are.
I just wish it were happening because of a few 3S and Alpha S2 characters instead of 5 brand new ones. They went overboard on that part for S2.
Garuda's basically a non-ridiculous Sodom.
I can't wait for El Fuerte, Rufus, Seth, and Decapre.
I for sure thought S2 was gonna be maybe a couple of noobs from SFIV and a bunch of guys from SFIII, to further bridge the gap between that game and V. Then Capcom pulled that fast one on us.
Maybe next year it'll be a III/other games-themed season. They gotta put in Sagat at some point, right?
Maybe next year it'll be a III/other games-themed season. They gotta put in Sagat at some point, right?
I meant four characters who were playable in IV, not necessarily those who originated in IV.
He'll probably headline S3 just like Akuma did for S2.
I always thought S2 was going to be a bunch of obvious inclusions that I would be fine with because eventually they'll have to do the characters I want. Now I guess S3 will be that, hopefully.
To add to Ryce's point, 14 (15 counting Kolin) of the 19 veterans (20 counting Kolin) in SFV got somewhat significant design changes. The likes of Cammy & M. Bison (Dictator) also got design changes, but they were more subtle changes.
- Ken
- Vega (Claw)
- Dhalsim
- Guile
- Ibuki
- Balrog (Boxer)
- Juri
- Akuma
- Charlie Nash
- Birdie
- Karin Kanzuki
- Rainbow Mika
- Alex
- Urien
- Kolin*
TheSpoiler
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We're 2 months into 2017 can we please stop downplaying bison?
https://youtu.be/lMsR33Eu--M
The reaction from this Akuma was crazy! Looks like something out of an anime.
The reaction from this Akuma was crazy! Looks like something out of an anime.
spazchicken
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Fun fact: by the end of this year, SFV will have more characters who aren't playable in the SFIV series than those who are.
Capcom is also doing a great job at keeping redundant characters (in looks and fighting style/move set) the lowest it's probably ever been for the series.
TheSpoiler
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Yo that Akuma parry was on Reddit. Dude said he noticed the Mika call and that if she has two arms up in the air it's a later drop, and if it's just one it comes out instantly or something. I forgot, but well done on him to notice and react.
I'm not. Most Bison's get away with shit because they can bully people that don't understand his gameplan. Having a flaw doesn't mean the character is garbage. You can bully Urien with characters like Cammy, Bison, or Balrog who can get their shit started earlier. Doesn't make Urien any less of a Top Five/Three character despite his mediocre defense.
I'm not. Most Bison's get away with shit because they can bully people that don't understand his gameplan. Having a flaw doesn't mean the character is garbage. You can bully Urien with characters like Cammy, Bison, or Balrog who can get their shit started earlier. Doesn't make Urien any less of a Top Five/Three character despite his mediocre defense.
Please don't nerf him Capcom he deserves this please.
The Mission Impossible theme had me rolling.
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