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Street Fighter V |OTVIIII| New Generation - Fighting Game Is Something So Great
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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Im pretty sure Guile, Chun, Vega (and Gief?) were the first fighting game characters with air throws period.
For context, Bigbird had the most badass Guy in SFIV and a lot are expecting him to switch to Zeku... If Zeku is any good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF137owywSg
Rice-Eater
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Anybody up late at night want to play my day 1 Akuma? I guarantee you he will be ass so plenty of free wins if you're at least Silver.
US East Coast
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Just say something if you want to play. I'll be checking the thread.
US East Coast
ID: Rice_Eater
Just say something if you want to play. I'll be checking the thread.
God I do not miss SFIV's low damage.
lucebuce12
Member
Better than SFV's ungodly high damage.
Romars202129
Member
Still on the low side of most fighters though.
lucebuce12
Member
Any comparisons in particular spring to mind?
Romars202129
Member
Mk, xrd, I could get a meterless 70% in persona.
Rice-Eater
Member
I see this a lot, but what's the context? If we skip all the other versions and just use USF4, I think most characters combos as a whole did more damage in USF4 compared to SFV S2(even S1 I bet) even if you exclude characters like Evil Ryu and Sakura.
Are you factoring combos starting with crush counter? Are you kind of blinded by how fast characters in SFV die because wake up is much weaker compared to SF4? Or something else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYhM9-qzYk0
It still require more confirms to win the round on average than SFV though, damage isn't SFV's problem.
The way in which the combo system encouraged you to start so much with jabs while scaling those combos heavily was a big part of it.
SFV's issue isn't the damage - it's the pacing and that you just cannot breathe if someone is pressuring you, especially in the corner.
Rice-Eater
Member
Yeah I figured that would be it after thinking about it a little more. I don't think most characters did much damage starting with two light attacks but still, plenty did. I could break 250+ with Evil Ryu. Even Yun got me a little over 200. Damn, how did I go from playing these two to S2 Ryu lol.
lucebuce12
Member
Reminder that they removed Ryu's and FANG's corner throw loop but kept in Ken's and Rashid's.
Paul Counter Hit deathfist says hi.
lucebuce12
Member
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yeah, the stun with the damage are the combo here that escalates things. Stuns are so common in V, so if they reduce the damage across the board, or reduce stun, I think either would be enough to reduce the snowballing you see in a lot of matches.
lucebuce12
Member
Btw, I just realized that Dhalsim's new Halloween costume is the first costume released thus far that actually changes the look of normals/specials.
MY PATRIOT SKIN FOR GUILE REMAINS A POSSIBILITY.
MY PATRIOT SKIN FOR GUILE REMAINS A POSSIBILITY.
Virtua Fighter rounds can end real quick.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Our local Ken player was also a Guy player in 4 weird.
I've been away from the game for a while, so I'm curious, is Rashid good? If so what makes him strong? See him placing lots in top 8's and no idea why.
great pressure, great rushdown, good buttons, vtrigger shenanigans, good matchups against popular characters
Rickenslacker
Banned
Rashid's always been good, just highly slept on for the longest time for some reason. I'd always get the excuse that his damage was low but, well, not really, especially when he has so many ways to get around and pressure.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Cody fits in well with SFV, he has short ranged combos, questionable anti-air, slow walkspeed, and does medium-heavy-special or medium-medium-special for all his combos.
...actually half the cast play like him already.
Spuck-uk
Banned
The thing I love about Pauls CH deathfist is, it hits for a lot BUT, not actually more than many other counterhit launchers into combo. It's a shitload of mental damage though.
You'll have a much worse time if Bryan lands a non-counterhit ws2
What are those good matchups, out of curiousity?
FunkyLounge
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Sobebody from EU willing to play few matches?
Damage in SFV and SF4, numbers wise, is actually about the same. The biggest difference is that Critical Arts due a minimum of 50% of its max damage regardless of scaling.
I think USF4 feels lower damage because since lights could combo into just about anything and were safe, people started with lights which kicked the scaling in quicker.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Thanks!
Zombegoast
Member
Just like Karin, Necalli and every character with a 3f normal that can confirm off a counter hit.
sixteen-bit
Member
It's telling when 3D fighters have a 60 second round timer by default, and 2D fighters have 99
Zombegoast
Member
Dp reversal should have been 1f projectile and 2f strike invincible.
If baffles me how you can't challenge anything until you have meter. And when you do and if it's blocked, you will be in a situation where you lose the match or the opponent will already have V-trigger and you lose the match.
That DP nerf made Guile a much better charecter and FK right when his Boom recovery ends.
Here's where the awful balance comes in, only Guile and gief have a meterless 1f projectile invincible special.
If baffles me how you can't challenge anything until you have meter. And when you do and if it's blocked, you will be in a situation where you lose the match or the opponent will already have V-trigger and you lose the match.
That DP nerf made Guile a much better charecter and FK right when his Boom recovery ends.
Here's where the awful balance comes in, only Guile and gief have a meterless 1f projectile invincible special.
Anyone else getting tons of server errors in the last week or so? Things are were working perfectly for so long I forgot that it was a thing, but now most of my match results fail to send.
Most my matches are laggy too.
I had this happen to me 2 weeks ago, i believe.
vulva said he had also problems at that time.
But now it works well again.
There was also someone who made a thread about it. Where he got booted from PSN a few times and his SF5 games became laggy and failed to retrieve data often.
sixteen-bit
Member
that survey tho
I like how Q is the first option for returning characters.
I like how Q is the first option for returning characters.
lucebuce12
Member
I hope Honda makes it in instead of Q, and in an interview 2 years later it's announced that they were toying around with Q but Honda got his spot instead.
I'll gloat so fucking hard.
I'll gloat so fucking hard.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Q can stay or go but please take the SF2 cast and launch them into the sun already.
If you mean the ones not already in SFV, at least let Sagat & Fei Long come back before you launch the others into orbit.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I can live with Chun, Chun has costumes I like buying. The rest, to the sun. Tiger shot into the sun.
lucebuce12
Member
I'll throw blanka into the rocket with him.
E.Honda stays!
E.Honda stays!
That's never happening
Street Fighter 2 is the granddaddy of what is for the most part the modern interpretation of what a fighting game is
They will never go away
That's like saying " hey launch luigi into the sun "
That ain't happening
Just because they were in a game that defined a genre doesn't mean some are worth keeping around. I agree that not every SF2 should be thrown away, I just think a small handful are not worth keeping around. Let's face it, characters like Dee Jay and T. Hawk would not keep coming back if they weren't in SF2.
E. Honda is such a nothingburger of a character that I'm surprised someone even likes him. Atleast Blanka is unique and has fans. In the competition of stereotypes, E.Honda and T.Hawk are the blandest, Honda being fat and ugly puts him at bottom.
Dee Jay is down there design wise too, but I feel like Dee Jay can be pretty sick with an updated design (see: Lucio from Overwatch). His special moves are pretty cool looking. If he gets a complete makeover in SFV and be made into a cool, confident cat and not some smiley joke character like old, he can be pretty popular. Especially coz he black and we need more black characters (Dudley is Indian hold dat)
Oh, you are confused
I didn't say I want all of them around, i'm just offering the explanation why.
Like honda's boring ass can fall of a cliff, but people ask for honda because SF2 happened, I have to accept that
In that case, yeah I agree with you.