Zombegoast
Member
This game isn't even out yet. It can be another SFXT with the bad press this game is getting.
But this is Capcom, they overshoot everything
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Street Fighter V |OTVIIII| New Generation - Fighting Game Is Something So Great
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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This game isn't even out yet. It can be another SFXT with the bad press this game is getting.
But this is Capcom, they overshoot everything
Did I hear it correctly? Leaderboards as qualification? What? That's a terrible way to start a pitch.
They already thought of it with SFV and it failed miserably.
Zombegoast
Member
Double Post
Turbanator
Member
I'm certain SFV had a similar proposal drawn up for it. Isn't it convenient that Capcom made an esports league just two years before the next edition of their flagship fighter came out?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I like juri.
And her theme (in a vacuum)
and her gameplay.
She just struggles for damage; the only real good thing she has in v-trigger dash up throw, which has wtf range.
I think she could benefit a lot from having an ex stock fill (like ibuki).
And her theme (in a vacuum)
and her gameplay.
She just struggles for damage; the only real good thing she has in v-trigger dash up throw, which has wtf range.
I think she could benefit a lot from having an ex stock fill (like ibuki).
lucebuce12
Member
Like when there's no medium for the sound waves to travel and you can't hear it?
Yeah it's great there.
ColonialHawk
Member
Thats only phase 1 according to the video. In 2.5 months they have to find half the competitors of a normal Capcom Cup for their tournament. I honestly think its the best way to go barring some kind of issue like SFV had with its leaderboards.
Next year they will do a full CPT style circuit.
TheSpoiler
Member
Damn fighting games don't play when it comes to cost.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I mean not as a character theme, it's too subdued compared to her hard hitting sf4 theme.
I realise it's a thematic thing where they wanted to convey that juri is mellowing out a bit, but they subdued it too much.
Just as a song I like it.
lucebuce12
Member
This is why i need to be here to keep the conversation from moving in a creepy direction.
ColonialHawk
Member
Reminder that Ibuki's entire motivations in the SF games is because she wants to get laid.
Good Job Bob
Member
Infinite will the core game of the CPT? RIP SFV.
sixteen-bit
Member
that dislike bar
Lol somebody needs to wake John D's ass up.
Japan...
TheSpoiler
Member
That's not what they are saying at all.
lucebuce12
Member
I wonder how Capcpom Cup will work scheduling wise if you now have two games.
Zombegoast
Member
Games need to grow before focusing on Esports not the other way around. it worked for SFV it was the next iteration after 7 years of SF4 which wasn't even Esports focus until 2013 with CPT.
You would think they would make minor balance changes with the release of every new character. But they don't even bother to fix issues outside of gameplay. The audio skips and even mutes when playing online, bot's wake up recording still doesn't work properly after a throw and player 2 still have not control.
You would think they would make minor balance changes with the release of every new character. But they don't even bother to fix issues outside of gameplay. The audio skips and even mutes when playing online, bot's wake up recording still doesn't work properly after a throw and player 2 still have not control.
That's Ibuki now after SFIV and SFV. Before Capcom changed her character she actually had a real reason for existing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibuki_(Street_Fighter)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibuki_(Street_Fighter)
lucebuce12
Member
I'm in a weird situation lol, I have the youtube page open on my browser, I watched the video and didn't close the tab. The video is still there but I suppose I have to go into temp files to get it. If someone can tell me the procedure, I can get it back.
EDIT: Apparently I don't need to.
EDIT: Apparently I don't need to.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I already did. I like what they did with reviews of MVC legacy in tournament scene, and I think BlueBlur is going to upload it when he get home.
Honestly, it's not that interesting. The biggest takeaway is what costs what and what kind of profit Capcom USA gets out of it (with 20% royalties going to Marvel and another 20% to Capcom Japan).
I wonder if SFV CPT stuff still requires a royalty payment to Capcom Japan since Capcom USA owns SF outright, I think.
TheSpoiler
Member
Different pools different times. Most games don't run into each other. I think.
I love cost based stuff.
Licensing fees are for large Dreamhack-style events, not your mom n pop regional tournament, but I'm sure that'll get leveraged against them.
I watched the video right when I woke up but I don't think Capcom takes a cut of any of that. Ticket prices, etc. go to the tournament owners while Capcom provides the set up (game, console, DLC). Capcom gets the ad revenue, I suppose.
I may be misremembering, though. The biggest thing for me is that, potentially, the dev costs for the 3 CPT costumes, stage, colors, etc. was $300,000. I mean, I think people routinely underestimate how much it costs to develop fighting games but even that surprised me.
ColonialHawk
Member
People underestimate how much video games in general cost.
Omnistalgic
Member
yes, buts it's a tool on Ken.
Seriously Ken is not that strong man. Biased I know, but he just isn't I'm sorry...I'm not saying there aren't characters who aren't worse mind you.
Turbanator
Member
There's no way the CPT stages alone cost less than $300K.
lucebuce12
Member
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Even they recycled quite a lot of assets for audiences in the stage?
UcchedavÄda
Member
Looks like there's a mirror here:
https://streamable.com/rmkp6
https://streamable.com/rmkp6
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
lucebuce12
Member
and the colours and titles. Not that the colours cost THAT much to make but it's still something considering it's for 28 characters now.
Turbanator
Member
Idk, I may just have been way overestimating the cost of hiring modelers, but the stages, particularly the newer one, definitely seem like a ton of effort went into them.
If I had to guess how much money went into each product, I guess I'd say each CPT costume cost about $70K to make while the stages cost something like $90K.
UcchedavÄda
Member
Keep in mind that we don't know how much DLC they will be producing for those $300k. It could be the same amount as SFV (one stage and three costumes), it could be more, or it could even be less (unlikely IMO). Given the larger cast of MvC:I, I wouldn't be surprised if they intend to have more CPT costumes per season compared to SFV.
- costume Concept design art
- asset creation
- testing QA
- Stage concept design
- Asset creation
- testing QA
- Stage theme concepts
- stage theme composing
- Testing + Creating patch
- Testing QA of Patch
- Submitting
- re submitting if not approved
- server maintenance
- GAF Complains.
CountBlack
Member
did john d really accidentally post that or was it someone faking his name
pls tell me it was the latter
pls tell me it was the latter
pls tell me it was the former
lucebuce12
Member
There's like a 98% chance that he posted the video.
He most likely meant to keep it private and only accessible to a few people but accidentally left it on public and published the video.
Poor guy's gonna get left behind at this rate.
He most likely meant to keep it private and only accessible to a few people but accidentally left it on public and published the video.
Poor guy's gonna get left behind at this rate.
sixteen-bit
Member
What's his agenda?