Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

I-hate-u said:
Isn't Rog from Las Vegas anyway? If anything, he would be revealed at PSX.
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could be but I feel like they will reveal balrog here at NYCC. And they will reveal zen at PSX. only 2 more characters left right? I think the boss will be unplayable or maybe on-disk day 1 DLC (i hope not, this will end the game just SFXTekken, Capcom is not NRS they can't get away with day 1 on disk DLC(Goro)).
 
TheOGB said:
First tease went up...
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IT'S PIKACHU!
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Oh why that leak went down; now it cant be Blanka Necro or Urien Trollno fun.

i still hope it is one of them as next and its trollception.
 
Gunslinger said:
could be but I feel like they will reveal balrog here at NYCC. And they will reveal zen at PSX. only 2 more characters left right? I think the boss will be unplayable or maybe on-disk day 1 DLC (i hope not, this will end the game just SFXTekken, Capcom is not NRS they can't get away with day 1 on disk DLC(Goro)).
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I'm still going with my theory that Zen is Boxers pupil.
 
Gunslinger said:
could be but I feel like they will reveal balrog here at NYCC. And they will reveal zen at PSX. only 2 more characters left right? I think the boss will be unplayable or maybe on-disk day 1 DLC (i hope not, this will end the game just SFXTekken, Capcom is not NRS they can't get away with day 1 on disk DLC(Goro)).
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They already said no to on disc DLC
 
Gunslinger said:
could be but I feel like they will reveal balrog here at NYCC. And they will reveal zen at PSX. only 2 more characters left right? I think the boss will be unplayable or maybe on-disk day 1 DLC (i hope not, this will end the game just SFXTekken, Capcom is not NRS they can't get away with day 1 on disk DLC(Goro)).
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the problem with goro is he was announced way too far in advance and by rights should have been available to everyone. This game though you can buy any and all players without spending a penny. The characters dont even need to be on disc, they could be day 1 download/psn store content with fight money option
 
『Inaba Resident』;180624344 said:
They already said no to on disc DLC
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The funny thing is that there's literally no difference to having DLC on day one. They would have them ready when the discs are produced and it would save you the download. But that stuff is poison now.
 
We don't have a pugilist at all. Was hoping Laura would have some of that, but doesn't appear to be the case. So unless Zen is that character (whatever Zen ends up being) Boxer getting in would make sense, especially if we're talking about the first 16 being chosen for a balance of story reasons and playstyle variety (the latter probably being more important than the former, I'd bet).

But I still think Guile makes more sense than Dhalsim for an NYCC reveal.

So I guess if I had to make a call, in order of probability?

1) Guile (story utility, keepaway/defensive character)
2) Boxer (story utility, unique playstyle)
3) Sim (no real story utility, but unique playstyle)

Still thinking Urien is the boss, who will become unlockable/DLC after a couple weeks or a month.
 
Gunslinger said:
You know the more I think about it the more i feel that if there is a character reveal for NYCC then it's going to be Balrog.
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The remaining open character slot in the classic section positioned to be that of either a New Challenger (Fei?) or a World Warrior (Guile, Dhalsim?).

Besides, Boxer fled Shadaloo in SF4. Guile, however, has strong storyline connections to Nash (who has been redesigned to be very unlike Guile).
 
"3) Sim (no real story utility, but unique playstyle) "


Stop this.

Stop saying who does or does not have story utility unless you have a copy of the storyboard on your desk. You don't know. No one knows.
 
Here's the thing about Boxer/Sagat having left Shadowloo: Doesn't necesessarily disqualify them from still being part of that story.

I mean, Charlie was DEAD. And yet he's apparently a key part of the story of Street Fighter V. So if they can come up with a reason to resurrect a dead character for the purposes of this story, it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to come up with a reason to have Boxer or Sagat get roped back into an organization they don't like.

I mean, Rocky said there wasn't going to be any rematch in 1976. They're STILL making those movies.

Teknopathetic said:
Stop this.
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Shit, apologies. As you can see from the above, (and previous posts in this thread, most recently this page and the last) I'm pretty cognizant of the fact there's a metric ton of shit still up in the air as to how and why these characters might fit into whatever story is going to be pushed in this game. I basically meant to say in comparison to Guile and Boxer, there's not as obvious a story utility with Dhalsim. Not to say there isn't one at all, or couldn't be one.

I've been pretty fair about pushing the idea that speculation on this game should be allowed to be kinda wide-open considering the amount of stuff we don't know. I'm not trying to shut other people down or anything.
 
emag said:
The remaining open character slot in the classic section positioned to be that of either a New Challenger (Fei?) or a World Warrior (Guile, Dhalsim?).

Besides, Boxer fled Shadaloo in SF4. Guile, however, has strong storyline connections to Nash (who has been redesigned to be very unlike Guile).
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If I had to guess the most likely to least likely classic SF2 character for the starting roster it would be

Dhalsim (most likely)
Guile
Feilong
Balrog
Sagat
Honda
Blanka
Deejay
T Hawk (least likely)
 
Teknopathetic said:
"3) Sim (no real story utility, but unique playstyle) "


Stop this.

Stop saying who does or does not have story utility unless you have a copy of the storyboard on your desk. You don't know. No one knows.
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When has sim ever done anything for the story ever? The most he has ever done for the lore is free cammy from being a slave in alpha 3. Every other game he never does anything with the main story and is always just doing stuff for his village like getting rid of a dam or raising money.
You can make your same argument for Deejay or el fuerte.
 
zedreamcast said:
When has sim ever done anything for the story ever? The most he has ever done for the lore is free cammy from being a slave in alpha 3. Every other game he never does anything with the main story and is always just doing stuff for his village like getting rid of a dam or raising money.
Why would he suddenly be relevant for stuff he's never ever been involved with.
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I'm only going off the idea that the story is supposed to be more important for this game than any other Street Fighter game. Lord knows what that actually means in practice, though.

I'm just trying to explain why I'm picking those three, in that order, as opposed to just sticking a list up. I'm not saying my reasoning can't be picked apart or outright refuted. It's not like anything you just said isn't true at all. Or that similar reasoning can't be applied to someone like Karin or Mika (like, what the hell do they have to do with any illuminati bullshit? yet here they are, and I can't wait to play them)

I'm not trying to be like, super-contentious or anything with my speculation.
 
"When has sim ever done anything for the story ever? The most he has ever done for the lore is free cammy from being a slave in alpha 3. Every other game he never does anything with the main story and is always just doing stuff for his village like getting rid of a dam or raising money.
Why would he suddenly be relevant for stuff he's never ever been involved with."


He very well could be irrelevant to the story in SFV. Capcom could very well recognize that Sim hasn't been a significant part of the story in previous games and decide to make him have a larger impact.

You don't know.
 
Dhalsim is unlikely if for no other reason than that it would be rather strange to see him and Zen being revealed at roughly the same time, unless Zen is REALLY not what we're expecting.

Then again, Dhalsim has always been the hermit type of character. To not intrude on Dhalsim territory, Zen could be an actual monk, although that would make his name a bit silly. But a Lei-Fei type shaolin monk would be cool.
 
I genuinely feel pain in my chest for Ono. Man works like a dog and gets his surprise for us ripped right from under his feet.
 
People who are listing characters for story reasons are ridiculous. Street Fighter has never been about the story. They put in Sakura in SFIV who looks the same age a log with Ibuki. They made Sagat leave Shadaloo in a SF2 prequrl even though he looks like he is part of Shadaloo in SF2. Gen was dieing in Alpha uet he is still alive in SFIV. Stop taking the story so seriously. And people saying a character like Dhalsim is not story relevant. For fucks sake they can easily link him to another character if they want. Rose and Guy were linked. Sakura and Blanka were linked. They can make up some shit like Dhalsim became super powerful through meditation and Akuma wants to challenge him.
 
SiegfriedFM said:
Zen could be an actual monk, although that would make his name a bit silly.
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Hell, I'm still hoping Zen ends up being a she.

KAL2006 said:
People who are listing characters for story reasons are ridiculous. Street Fighter has never been about the story.
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Most definitely. And usually story wouldn't even factor into any of my speculation for what a roster would look like. But the difference is that Capcom's made it a point to mention that story mode is a big concern this time out. So that's going to color people's speculation a little. But I understand being distrustful of Capcom saying one thing and then when it comes time to implement it, doing something else.
 
Teknopathetic said:
"3) Sim (no real story utility, but unique playstyle) "


Stop this.

Stop saying who does or does not have story utility unless you have a copy of the storyboard on your desk. You don't know. No one knows.
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I don't think he's necessarily wrong though. I'm sure Sim can have a lot to do with the story but compared to Guile or Boxer he's nowhere near the amount of relevance they have to the plot simply by virtue of those two character's having a deeper relationship to other characters than Sim does.. But none of these things mean or disqualify him from ever being considered as a character that would be revealed.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
I'm only going off the idea that the story is supposed to be more important for this game than any other Street Fighter game. Lord knows what that actually means in practice, though.

I'm just trying to explain why I'm picking those three, in that order, as opposed to just sticking a list up. I'm not saying my reasoning can't be picked apart or outright refuted. It's not like anything you just said isn't true at all. Or that similar reasoning can't be applied to someone like Karin or Mika (like, what the hell do they have to do with any illuminati bullshit? yet here they are, and I can't wait to play them)

I'm not trying to be like, super-contentious or anything with my speculation.
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Mika helped Geif destroy the psycho drive in alpha 3 and the Kanzuki zaibatsu was threatened by Shadaloo in the past. Both pretty minor roles but they at least have had more to do with Shadaloo that dhalsim ever has.
 
zedreamcast said:
When has sim ever done anything for the story ever? The most he has ever done for the lore is free cammy from being a slave in alpha 3. Every other game he never does anything with the main story and is always just doing stuff for his village like getting rid of a dam or raising money.
You can make your same argument for Deejay or el fuerte.
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Mind control stuff could be the biggest reason. Sim could free Charlie and someother character from Illuminati or Shadoloo mind control during the game. Protagonists could think Charlie is brainwashed and Chun and Cammy seek him out for help.
 
I think Zen is going to be a very spiritual dude, who literally fights with a spirit aka a stand

* Think means hope.
 
They could just pull something out of their butt, like Datta getting kidnapped by the illuminati, lol.

Based on Capcom's words, I expect a more cinematic representation of the story mode campaign in 5, but not necessarily a more coherrant one. Imo SF's "canon" is so convoluted it is one of the instances where I feel a reboot would be warranted.
 
So I just had a thought about this 1 new character and 2 returning character thing- it could be confirmation that this is indeed the Rumblefish Zen and not a new character.
 
I hope with Zen Capcom just go balls to the wall crazy and create a completely new and fresh gameplay style for them. With KI's characters they do something out there and exciting every time, why can't Capcom? The only thing I don't like with what Capcom is doing at the moment is just giving pre-existing moves from pre-existing characters to the new guys. Why not give them all new moves? Does Laura really have to use electricity? Does Necalli really need some of Viper's. Just give them their own unique moves.
 
Gunslinger said:
I don't see it. I think Zen will be Dhalsims pupil if anything. If the rumor is true and Zen is Indian.
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Why does Zen being Indian make him have to be Dhalsims pupil? Sean's Brazilian but isn't Blankas pupil, Rufus fights with Kung fu but isn't fei longs student. My theory comes from the fact that the kid at the end of balrogs arcade ending has some major connection with Shadaloo with that mark on his hand that was never explained and how he looks Indian.
 
Guys .. guys. I think I see what's happening here - Zangief kind of came out of nowhere just like Vega. The Brazil Expo would have been some spectacular trolling on Ono's part had Famitsu not leaked Laura pics , specifically of her apparent lightning projectile. Either way I can pretend we didn't see those pics and look forward to her trailer this coming weekend.

With New york comic-con happening at pretty much the same time though who does that leave given the track record of reveals happening in the same region as the announced character ? Guile or Balrog. Now that we've gotten past those SF3 character hopes.

So Laura will be officially announced this friday and then probably by Monday we'll see guile or balrog revealed.

Xen/Zen will then be revealed at the playstation experience/capcom cup before the final top 8 matchups. January will probably be a features / story mode trailer that might sneak a peak at bosses/hidden characters and february an official launch trailer followed at some point by the games release.

Hopefully beta 2 commences around october 16th to the 21st.
 
Pachinko said:
Guys .. guys. I think I see what's happening here - Zangief kind of came out of nowhere just like Vega. The Brazil Expo would have been some spectacular trolling on Ono's part had Famitsu not leaked Laura pics , specifically of her apparent lightning projectile. Either way I can pretend we didn't see those pics and look forward to her trailer this coming weekend.

With New york comic-con happening at pretty much the same time though who does that leave given the track record of reveals happening in the same region as the announced character ? Guile or Balrog. Now that we've gotten past those SF3 character hopes.

So Laura will be officially announced this friday and then probably by Monday we'll see guile or balrog revealed.

Xen/Zen will then be revealed at the playstation experience/capcom cup before the final top 8 matchups. January will probably be a features / story mode trailer that might sneak a peak at bosses/hidden characters and february an official launch trailer followed at some point by the games release.

Hopefully beta 2 commences around october 16th to the 21st.
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Actually, Laura is gonna be revealed on October 8th.
 
AFAIK, Dhalsim is the peace maker of the SF franchise, and is Sagat's mentor.

@Pachinko, Vega didn't come out of nowhere, he was the Gamescom reveal.
 
Scotia said:
I hope with Zen Capcom just go balls to the wall crazy and create a completely new and fresh gameplay style for them. With KI's characters they do something out there and exciting every time, why can't Capcom?.
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  • Because SF has always been more grounded conceptually than KI.
  • Because KI1 & KI2 were dumpster tier fighters from two decades ago that no one had any real gameplay attachments to other than combos and breakers.
 
zedreamcast said:
Why does Zen being Indian make him have to be Dhalsims pupil? Sean's Brazilian but isn't Blankas pupil, Rufus fights with Kung fu but isn't fei longs student. My theory comes from the fact that the kid at the end of balrogs arcade ending has some major connection with Shadaloo with that mark on his hand that was never explained and how he looks Indian.
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True.
 
Didn't they say that Dhalsim is super hard to balance with current game mechanics and they still don't hava any idea how to do it. I don't think he will be in the vanilla version of the game
 
I-hate-u said:
AFAIK, Dhalsim is the peace maker of the SF franchise, and is Sagat's mentor.

@Pachinko, Vega didn't come out of nowhere, he was the Gamescom reveal.
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What? Dhalsim isn't Sagats mentor, this has never been said I looked right now. Why would dhalsim, a pacifist, learn and teach a martial art made to kill.
 
zedreamcast said:
Why does Zen being Indian make him have to be Dhalsims pupil? Sean's Brazilian but isn't Blankas pupil, Rufus fights with Kung fu but isn't fei longs student. My theory comes from the fact that the kid at the end of balrogs arcade ending has some major connection with Shadaloo with that mark on his hand that was never explained and how he looks Indian.
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I don't expect to have a story connection, but I'd be surprised if the character doesn't have at least some form of stretchiness. Necalli has the Tomahawk and chokeslam, Laura has electricity, etc.
 
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