Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

Didn't they say that Dhalsim is super hard to balance with current game mechanics and they still don't hava any idea how to do it. I don't think he will be in the vanilla version of the game

I think it's time to accept that Dhalsim is the last returning character.
 
Why does Zen being Indian make him have to be Dhalsims pupil? Sean's Brazilian but isn't Blankas pupil, Rufus fights with Kung fu but isn't fei longs student. My theory comes from the fact that the kid at the end of balrogs arcade ending has some major connection with Shadaloo with that mark on his hand that was never explained and how he looks Indian.

That's a good loose end to bring up, but I think it's a stretch to consider him of Indian descent based on the ending. He's blonde, wearing nondescript shirt/shorts and bandages.
 
He was just sight seeing... like everyone who's not insane thought.

Ok, I'll bite: According to the notable philosopher Vaas, insanity means to expect different outcomes when doing the same thing. Ergo, me expecting some kind of reveal when Ono did his tweet-tease routine in Mexico again seems less insane than blindly accepting the fact that we got jack shit. Sightseeing my ass - this guy is a master troll, so I'm watching his every move like a hawk (hoping we'd get Urien...)!

There are people who like Blanka?

Also, it'd be cool if Zen was Remy's dad and link in well to 3S.

- Ice powers (Remy's sister was frozen)
- Remy's dad is a "warrior" like the rest of the cast
- Mentioned his dad was off not protecting/taking care of his family

I might be proving my insanity yet again by saying this, but for me (and many of my childhood friends), Blanka has always been one of the coolest characters. He also served an important function with his beastliness: he made the other - often by comparison more mundane looking - fighters seem more powerful because of being able to go toe to toe with him in combat.

So yeah: I'd easily take Blanka over Zangief, Vega, Cammy, Guile or most other of the original cast in fact. Quick, call the asylum!
 
When has sim ever done anything for the story ever? The most he has ever done for the lore is free cammy from being a slave in alpha 3. Every other game he never does anything with the main story and is always just doing stuff for his village like getting rid of a dam or raising money.
You can make your same argument for Deejay or el fuerte.

Isn't there supposed to be some kind of story mode this time? If that's the case, it's much more likely that he'll actually play some kind of role, doesn't matter if before he was mostly focused on his own little prologues and endings irrelevant to the main story before, because it means he'll have to actually interact with other characters, rather than getting his own standalone backstory and ending.
 
What? Dhalsim isn't Sagats mentor, this has never been said I looked right now. Why would dhalsim, a pacifist, learn and teach a martial art made to kill.
No, he mentored Sagat after he turned good. I remember reading about it when they revealed them as partners in sfxt. I might be wrong.
 
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Time to accept him.
 
It's canon (was in the plot FAQ). Probably only mentioned in one of the All About books or something.

EDIT: Source (the guide uses the JPN names)
Bison once killed one of Dhalsim's elephants just for the hell of it.
Kodal's parent was the elephant killed by Bison.
 
I don't think he's necessarily wrong though. I'm sure Sim can have a lot to do with the story but compared to Guile or Boxer he's nowhere near the amount of relevance they have to the plot simply by virtue of those two character's having a deeper relationship to other characters than Sim does.. But none of these things mean or disqualify him from ever being considered as a character that would be revealed.

In the plot you've made up in your head. What if Dhalsim's yoga powered are what help seal away Bison's psycho powers?
 

While Boxer seems so hype for this Sagat just looks like this is just another day at the Shadaloo offices for him.

In the plot you've made up in your head. What if Dhalsim's yoga powered are what help seal away Bison's psycho powers?
We shouldn't limit ourselves in hypothetical then. What if in the plot Sim has to team up with Guile as the combined power of Yoga and Sonic Booms are all that can seal away Bison and cure Nash?

Maybe if your name is Zen, is something ironic and surprised us the character to be a wild beast
Nah man if we can't have more than 3 grapplers, we can't have two crazy wild guys like both Zen and Necalli. That's just outrageous.
 
I saw the cover, so I knew "The Ferret" was a thing, but I didn't know Sagat decapitated him in-comic. That's messed up.

... If they were willing to make him canon and have him take Dan's place as the joke character, I'd be fine with that.

That's actually Ken in the Sagat/Rog scene. And they scalped him, IIRC.

Dunno why I spoilered that, I doubt anyone's going to care, lol.
 
While Boxer seems so hype for this Sagat just looks like this is just another day at the Shadaloo offices for him.


We shouldn't limit ourselves in hypothetical then. What if in the plot Sim has to team up with Guile as the combined power of Yoga and Sonic Booms are all that can seal away Bison and cure Nash?


Well, yeah, that's the point. It's stupid to say a character has no relevance to the story when we know nothing about the story.
 
Well, yeah, that's the point. It's stupid to say a character has no relevance to the story when we know nothing about the story.

It's also stupid to make up stuff in an effort to assume they're relevant though. Because as you said, we don't know. It works both ways.
 
In the plot you've made up in your head. What if Dhalsim's yoga powered are what help seal away Bison's psycho powers?

There's to many random characters with no connection or reason to interact with the main cast (in this case Shadaloo, Nash...). They can write Dhalsim in, but it would be hard to include Hugo and his wrestling aspiration important to anyone but Hugo. Which kind of makes story justifications stupid, since there's no way everyone can be relavent without potentially knee-capping the roster.
 
There's to many random characters with no connection or reason to interact with the main cast (in this case Shadaloo, Nash...). They can write Dhalsim in, but it would be hard to include Hugo and his wrestling aspiration important to anyone but Hugo. Which kind of makes story justifications stupid, since there's no way everyone can be relavent without potentially knee-capping the roster.
They'll go the MK route and have half the cast mind-controlled.
 
"It's also stupid to make up stuff tin an effort to assume they're relevant though. Because as you said, we don't know. It works both ways."

We're not trying to assume they're relevant. We're saying that trying to say who is or isn't relevant is silly. There is no "both ways" here.
 
It's also stupid to make up stuff tin an effort to assume they're relevant though. Because as you said, we don't know. It works both ways.

You guys are the ones doing that, I'm just chiming in on why it's ridiculous.

We don't know, so saying a character does or does not have relevance is silly. I'm only making stuff up to demonstrate how dumb it is. Not trying to say anybody actually is relevant.
 
You guys are adorable. I can't wait to body y'all online while you fret about Street Fighter's oh so deep storyline. This is Ono's Ulysses.
 
You guys are the ones doing that, I'm just chiming in on why it's ridiculous.

We don't know, so saying a character does or does not have relevance is silly. I'm only making stuff up to demonstrate how dumb it is. Not trying to say anybody actually is relevant.

Us guys? I'm not on anyone's side here if you're trying to imply that. I don't mind either way if Dhalsim is in or for what reason.

What I am saying is if we wanted to discuss plot, two characters who have deeper associations with Bison (and for Guile's sake one with Nash as well) already well before this game has even come out have far more plot reasons to be in than someone who in the story prior to this game has way less.

Now you can pretend maybe there's some plot detail we don't know about that changes everything, sure. But that doesn't change the fact that all three of the aforementioned characters were in Street Fighter 2 so they can all meet the last returning character quota, all three of the aforementioned characters are recognized staple characters of the game, but two of them have far more vested interest in the plot based on what we do know. In terms of variables it points to those Guile and Balrog much more than it does to Dhalsim. So sure they could introduce something new, but it would sideline two ongoing character relations that could be resolved just to introduce a new one that was never needed except to prove that Dhalsim is related to the plot.

You guys are adorable. I can't wait to body y'all online while you fret about Street Fighter's oh so deep storyline. This is Ono's Ulysses.
Did you really mean Finnegan's Wake?
 
You guys are adorable. I can't wait to body y'all online while you fret about Street Fighter's oh so deep storyline. This is Ono's Ulysses.

The guys that care about the story are the ones making mkx sale millions. You should hope they buy the game so that guys like you and me that care about playing online actually have a game that's supported.

Us guys? I'm not on anyone's side here if you're trying to imply that. I don't mind either way if Dhalsim is in or for what reason.

What I am saying is if we wanted to discuss plot, two characters who have deeper associations with Bison (and for Guile's sake one with Nash as well) already well before this game has even come out have far more plot reasons to be in the game than someone who in the story prior to this game has way less.

Now you can pretend maybe there's some plot detail we don't know about that changes everything, sure. But that doesn't change the fact that all three of the aforementioned characters were in Street Fighter 2 so they can all meet the last returning character quota, all three of the aforementioned characters are recognized staple characters of the game, but two of them have far more vested interest in the plot based on what we do know. In terms of variables it points to those Guile and Balrog much more than it does to Dhalsim. So sure they could introduce something new, but it would sideline two ongoing character relations that could be resolved just to introduce a new one that was never needed except to prove that Dhalsim is related to the plot.

Yes, you and the person you said was correct. But go ahead with your fanfiction. I'm not pretending anything. Nobody knows a damn thing about the plot. Not one single bit. Everything you say in the face of that is irrelevant.
 
You guys are adorable. I can't wait to body y'all online while you fret about Street Fighter's oh so deep storyline. This is Ono's Ulysses.

Casual players and Single Mode players are one that going to give Capcom shitload of money for the games and potentially support our DLC future.

At long, Capcom and Sony are happy with the sales and going to support long term plan for Street Fighter V with downloadable contents, then I'm fine with them discussing about story plots.

And bring it on, Rentalhamster. Let see if you could body me pretty hard.
 
Hmm, do casuals buy DLC costumes? I always thought that was targeted at the more hardcore base that demands new content.
 
What are you two arguing about? You both agree with each other.
You're right, I'm upset about nothing. I'm going on 4 hours of sleep because I had something work related early this morning and it's put me on edge. Whatever Skilletor has to say to me being dumb is deserved.
 
Hmm, do casuals buy DLC costumes? I always thought that was targeted at the more hardcore base that demands new content.

I can only speak for myself of course, but i do buy them if i like them, no reason in buying costumes that i think look dumb.
 
When is the beta going to resume?

Nothing is confirmed at the moment aside from them saying that there will be new characters in this beta. They've said this one will be the biggest hurdle for them because it's them tackling cross-platform play, so they're probably doing private tests right now before they push it out to the public.
 
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