lemon__fresh
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Sounds like a first week mvc3 complaint.
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Sounds like a first week mvc3 complaint.
WesternHeretic
Member
True, but MVC3 have unblock-ables, resets, and X-Factor.
And who knows what people will find out in this game, give it time then start complaining.
lemon__fresh
Member
See Justin Wong.
People simply aren't using the most damaging option and thus can't drain 2 health bar.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Seems like nobody is there.
That doesn't seem better at all (didn't sit through all of it, only about 1/2 before YT decided to die on me).
Long periods of no commentating, not talking too much about the match itself, and lack of audience reaction (at least from what I got through).
Part of the problem may have been that I'm not too big on Tekken either.
Again, stuff like Evo commentary is the most hype ever because as others have said, the commentary is good (they talk about the game, the players, the match, and sound excited), the audience is there to make some noise, and of course the matches are excellent.
And it's a PG stream.
Most damaging option is usually not hit confirmable.
lemon__fresh
Member
Oh man, commentators are feeling the salt now.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Lol.
Art: "they're both defensive characters, play full screen, punish full screen"
Lady: "great so.."
Can I ask who the two main commentators are?
Art: "they're both defensive characters, play full screen, punish full screen"
Lady: "great so.."
Can I ask who the two main commentators are?
ihearthawthats
Banned
it doesn't help that they're playing to the (non-existent) audience, rather than playing to the stream cam/audience.
Yep, IGN need to bring some FGC audience or buy a "YAY" machine
Lol stream 1 would be shut down within an hour due to lack of viewers.
Then that would send a nice clear message wouldn't it?
lemon__fresh
Member
If they put less effort into the 'spectacle' people might not notice how empty everything is.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
An I late to the party on this are are there some moves that will never hit jumping opponents on wake-up? Hugo's cr. forward always seem to wiff in this situation and Abel's step-kick always give me an air juggle.
Jedirob and Vic The Slick
WesternHeretic
Member
I'm not complaining dude look at who you quoted. I'm just playing devil advocate for the guy that brought it up.
Not to mention this is a legitimate complaint. People said the same thing for CVS2 as well and people said give it time and guess what? We gave it time and it still ended up in a turtle fest. At least people started to figure out A-Groove custom combo or that game would of ended up being a super turtle fest (thanks east coast!).
P.S You can't exactly compare Marvel to SFxT two completely type of games.
P.S.S I personally think the reason matches are so long is because people still are doing abc/tag combos which imo doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as just ex combos. Meter is so important to damage in this game.
KidA Seven
Member
Art was clutch with vega catching Law, who was trying to run away.
Yeah but it's not about the viewers man, it's about being "professional" so we can make up for all those years we were pushed around in High School and made fun of for playing video games. eSports.
Master Milk
Member
So, there are five people in the audience.
Stabby McSter
Member
See, this is why no one likes esports. 
lemon__fresh
Member
I didn't realize until now.
I guess I should have posted a better example, that was a pool play match, but the semi final matches were spectacular. RIP being among America's top 10 players in the US was really good at articulating what each player was fishing for and emphatically calling each progression. MLG took down all the other videos unfortunately
See, this is why no one likes esports.
When nobody's there, yeah, haha. When there's a main stage with thousands of people in an audience, THAT's fucking incredible. You don't need e-sports to do that (see: evo) but the crowd makes everything. There's almost nobody there because it's so far from the convention center and it isn't exactly a gaming convention anyway.
Not to mention this is IPL's first ever fighting game event. I guarantee you SC2 will be much bigger because they've been doing SC2 for a long time now.
My main worry is the "Blazblue" problem of needing to do very, very long combos in order to do any sort of reasonable damage.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
See, this is why no one likes esports.
Yea, but to be fair, this is like a side promotional event, that is tagging on to a musical festival.
I'll reserve judgement until a full focused event.
People just aren't maximizing the damage vs their meter usage. The other problem is trying to play this like it's SFIV and it's not working out well. It's a footsie game sure, but meter is there to maximize the damage by tagging and using super or cross art. ABC/tag should be used when you are low on meter or to safely switch.
ihearthawthats
Banned
scaling hits way too hard in this game. i think this game is going to go the way of reset heavy instead.
The FGC atmosphere is way closer to UFC than it is to Starcraft.
Oh shit... Now that you put it that way... I might have some problems watching FGC streams now. D:
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
To anyone wondering if Julia has more Mids, her Lp Lp Mp chain is mid, and her lp lp lk chain is low and can be canceled into specials
They share sponsorships and I know that some MMA fighters actually do play fighting games. BJ Penn plays SF. Some UFC events even has fighting game setups outside of the arena/building.
Hopefully we can avoid having "Condom Depot" sponsor players by plastering ads on the back of their shorts. Sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen!
TheFightingFish
Member
I didn't like BlazBlue for that reason as well. But from what I've seen the damage scaling on SFxT will keep this from being a big issue, if you look at some of the combo videos out there they are often doing only around 50% health and there are some very basic combos in the game that can get you to 30% - 40% in a quickness. So sure, to play at the top level you might need the big combos, but with the damage scaling folks without the elite execution skill should be able to keep up better when compared to say BB.
Having been to an MLG event for SC2 and Halo/CoD - not at all. There's thousands of people walking around checking out all the games with multiple mainstages for each game. There's lots of sponsor booths with free stuff (I had free Doritos and Dr. Pepper all weekend) and the crowds are SO hype for the games they're interested in. My friend and I sat down next to a group of halo players who happened to be watching SC2, and even though they weren't there for sc2, they could tell when major shit was going down and we'd all cheer.
The production is similar, but the atmosphere is totally different. This is just fucking dead and pathetic.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Stream quality is pretty damn good on my machine. The commentators are not THAT bad either.
It's just dead in that venue. Crowd energy is a big thing.
I wish they would put the match counts by the players names, like spooky does.
It's just dead in that venue. Crowd energy is a big thing.
I wish they would put the match counts by the players names, like spooky does.
As someone who mostly watches FGC streams, I enjoyed watching parts of the DOTA 2 Invitational. Tobi Wan was into the commentary and it made a game I knew next to nothing about interesting. The dead crowd and commentators are just sucking the life out of the event.