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Strikeforce MMA: Fedor vs Hendo 7/30 |OT| The Last Emperor's Last Stand?

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When: Saturday, July 30th LIVE ON SHOWTIME 10 PM ET/PT

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PRELIMINARY CARD

JZ Cavalcante (17-4-1-2) vs. Bobby Green (15-4)
Eduardo Pamplona (15-2) vs. Tyler Stinson (20-7)
Julie Kedzie (16-8) vs. Alexis Davis (9-4)
Derek Brunson (7-0) vs. Lumumba Sayers (4-1)
Bryan Humes (6-1) vs. Gabriel Salinas-Jones (4-0)

Hype: This could be called the Zuffa outcast show, with Fedor, Henderson, and Daley; all of which has had their issues with Zuffa brass in the past. This, along with the women's division, which Dana White has said in the past he has no interest in bringing to the UFC.

Too bad.

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Strikeforce Womens Welterweight Championship
Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate

Miesha Tate FINALLY gets her shot at the Strikeforce Womens Welterweight Championship after winning a shot at the belt at last August's Strikeforce Women's Welterweight Tournament, which was postponed due to a knee injury in training. Marloes Coenen is coming off of back to back submission wins to win and defend her title and is the #1 women's 135-pound fighter in the world.

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Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley

Paul Daley is trying to recover from the battle with Nick Diaz and the beating he took, and the beating his gave in a non one sided war for the ages (!),to possibly get back in the good graces with Zuffa. Originally scheduled to fight Evangelista Cyborg in this bout, he takes on American Top Team wrestler Tyron Woodley who is gonig to try to take him down early and often.


Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler

A middle of the road fight, if there ever was one. Another "jumble" fight in Strikeforce's thin Middleweight division where Lawler is coming off a loss to Jacare Souza, and Kennedy is coming off a win against Melvin Manhoef (with a loss to Jacare before that.) The winner should be right in the hunt for yet another Strikeforce middleweight title shot, since there is all of about 4 people left in the division.

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"Hay, wanna go egg Dana's house after the fight"

Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko

The main event, the big enchilada. It seems more is placed on the implications of who loses this fight, than wins it, with media saying that the loser could be cut:

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2011/07/20/loser-of-fedor-emelianenko%E2%80%99s-fight-with-dan-henderson-likely-sent-packing/

Or that Fedor should retire if he loses Saturday:

http://espn.go.com/mma/hot

Either way, for such a great potential fight, this could be the lamest of duck fights in recent history with Dan Henderson being refused a new UFC contract and moving to Strikeforce, and the long history of Fedor's negotiations with the UFC. Fedor should have a huge weight advantage in this fight, the complete opposite of his past fight against Bigfoot Silva. Henderson will, as always, look to unload his money maker: the big right hand. An interesting fight I doubt either side will choose to take it to the ground. The winner will likely be the guy with the granite chin.


My predictions:

Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko
Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith
 
DKehoe

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If it stays standing I think Fedor will win. For such a great wrestler Hendo relies almost solely on his right hand now.
 
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bone_and_sinew

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You didn't put the betting lines...they're giving away free money! Daley and Hendo as two-to-one dogs!

Fedor Emelianenko (31-3, 1 NC) -245 vs. Dan Henderson (27-8) +195

Robbie Lawler (18-7, 1 NC) +185 vs. Tim Kennedy (13-3) -235

Paul Daley (27-10-2) +200 vs. Tyron Woodley (8-0) -250

Scott Smith (17-8, 1 NC) +190 vs. Tarec Saffiedine (10-3) -240
 
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TheNatural

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ChefRamsay said:
How in the hell is Fedor 34 and Hendo 40?!

War Hendo.

Nice OT btw :)
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Thanks, never did it before, tried to not look stupid :p

Yeah it's weird to think how Henderson is 6 years older. Hell, Anderson Silva is 36 himself. It kinda annoys me that you lose a couple fights, and you're on the chopping block and lost it. I mean, if you're getting KO'ed constantly like Liddell and have no chin, then it's time, but in MMA land - lose two in a row and you're on the brink of your career being over.
 
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polyh3dron

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DKehoe said:
If it stays standing I think Fedor will win. For such a great wrestler Hendo relies almost solely on his right hand now.
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Fedor relies a lot on his right hand as well.

BTW, good OP.
 
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desa

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War Fedor! Both got granite chins but I think Fedor who slowed down is still quicker than Hendo. I see him knocking down Hendo and GnP'ing until the ref stops or an armbar submission.

MMmmm Miesha. I want her to triangle choke me.
 
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TheNatural said:
Paul Daley is trying to recover from the battle with Nick Diaz and the beating he took, to possibly get back in the good graces with Zuffa.
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Daley is an arrogant, loudmouthed tool most of the time but this is doing him a bit of a disservice. He rocked Diaz a few times and should of finished the fight when he hit Diaz with that sweet left counter when he was backed against the cage.

The fight was hardly a one sided beat down. Nitpick to say the least I know but I hate people not calling fights correctly.
 
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Skilotonn

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Fedor fought Silva? Shit man, I've been so out of the loop.

This weekend is chilling weekend so I don't plan on missing this one.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
TheNatural said:
Paul Daley is trying to recover from the battle with Nick Diaz and the beating he took, to possibly get back in the good graces with Zuffa.

Daley is an arrogant, loudmouthed tool most of the time but this is doing him a bit of a disservice. He rocked Diaz a few times and should of finished the fight when he hit Diaz with that sweet left counter when he was backed against the cage.

The fight was hardly a one sided beat down. Nitpick to say the least I know but I hate people not calling fights corrctly.
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It wasn't one sided but he still got stopped, takes a good ammount of punishment to do that. Also he's pretty much a one dimensional fighter (just striking) and got beat by someone else in that area. That has to have some sort of mental impact.
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DKehoe said:
It wasn't one sided but he still got stopped, takes a good ammount of punishment to do that. Also he's pretty much a one dimensional fighter (just striking) and got beat by someone else in that area. That has to have some sort of mental impact.
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He got stopped sure but he also gave as good as he got. He might be one dimensional but he's also one of the most exciting guys to watch fight because you know at any given time the fight can be over.

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Against anyone else that fight is over. That being said I think we will see a similar pattern to his fight with koschek when he faces Woodley in a few days.
 
Clear

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If his heart's still in it, Fedor should beat Hendo no problem.

So long as he avoids Hendo's power in the stand-up and works a straight grappling gameplan I honestly can't see the result going any other way.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
He got stopped sure but he also gave as good as he got. He might be one dimensional but he's also one of the most exciting guys to watch fight because you know at any given time the fight can be over.
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Ya, that was a great fight. Both Diaz and Daley bring it.
 
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TheNatural

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Shogun PaiN said:
Daley is an arrogant, loudmouthed tool most of the time but this is doing him a bit of a disservice. He rocked Diaz a few times and should of finished the fight when he hit Diaz with that sweet left counter when he was backed against the cage.

The fight was hardly a one sided beat down. Nitpick to say the least I know but I hate people not calling fights correctly.
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I never said it was one sided, I said he took a beating. And I also hate when people nitpick things you really didn't say. The guy got messed up, but he did damage as well.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
He got stopped sure but he also gave as good as he got. He might be one dimensional but he's also one of the most exciting guys to watch fight because you know at any given time the fight can be over.
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Yeh I don't mean that he didn't get some good shots in on Diaz because he did but my point was that he took some damage in that fight regardless of how much he gave back to Nick. Also with the one dimensional thing, Daley has pretty much said for a while now that those who want to grapple with him are pussies and they should stand and bang with him. Diaz did that and knocked out Daley. I was just wondering if thats going to have some effect on Daley mentally.
 
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TheNatural said:
I never said it was one sided, I said he took a beating. And I also hate when people nitpick things you really didn't say. The guy got messed up, but he did damage as well.
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Stating a fighter took a beating makes it sound like a one sided fight. A beating would be what Dos Santos gave to Carwin or What GSP gave to Fitch. Daley didn't get ''messed up'' - He gave as good as he got.


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Yeh I don't mean that he didn't get some good shots in on Diaz because he did but my point was that he took some damage in that fight regardless of how much he gave back to Nick. Also with the one dimensional thing, Daley has pretty much said for a while now that those who want to grapple with him are pussies and they should stand and bang with him. Diaz did that and knocked out Daley. I was just wondering if thats going to have some effect on Daley mentally.
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TKO!!! Honestly I doubt it will have much effect on Daley because like everyone knows not many people in the weight class could of took those shots he delivered to Diaz. The worst thing that could happen to Daley as a fighter is that he turns gun-shy and fails to throw his shots because of the Diaz fight.

Should be interesting to see how Daley combats Woodley's wrestling and if he still throws his nasty left hook a frequently.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
Stating a fighter took a beating makes it sound like a one sided fight. A beating would be what Dos Santos gave to Carwin or What GSP gave to Fitch. Daley didn't get ''messed up'' - He gave as good as he got.
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Well sorry, sheesh. Take a chill pill. I was just giving a quick rundown of each fight, I didn't know I had to do an in depth synopsis of how the fights went.

PS - Edited for your contentment. Feel better now? Damn I never knew Paul Daley had a defense force.
 
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polyh3dron

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This is the first UFC/Strikeforce/Zuffa MMA event I won't be seeing live since Aldo vs. Faber.. Have to go to a familiy dinner... :(
 
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TheNatural

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polyh3dron said:
More like truth having a Defense Force than anything.
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I saw the fight, the guy was rocked and tripping over himself to the ground and shit. He hurt Diaz a few times, I never meant it to sound one sided - he still took a beating and lost. In the end Diaz recovered, Daley was wobbly and out of it. Nothing I said was untrue.
 
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TheNatural said:
Well sorry, sheesh. Take a chill pill. I was just giving a quick rundown of each fight, I didn't know I had to do an in depth synopsis of how the fights went.

PS - Edited for your contentment. Feel better now? Damn I never knew Paul Daley had a defense force.
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I do. Thanks for taking the time to consider my point!

No but seriously I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything..

Anyway does anybody not see Fedor beating Henderson? or does anyone believe Dan can land one of his Bombs on Fedor?
 
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TheNatural

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Shogun PaiN said:
I do. Thanks for taking the time to consider my point!

No but seriously I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything..
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It's no big deal, I saw the fight, I didn't mean to make it come off like it was one sided, but the guy did get beat up pretty good - and he rocked Diaz too as well. It was a good fight, Daley ran completely out of steam in the end though, it was pretty much all Diaz late in the fight until it was stopped.

And I think Fedor's got too much of a size advantage in this one for Henderson to take him out really. Henderson handled Babalu, but it's not like he's been looking so hot lately either.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
Anyway does anybody not see Fedor beating Henderson? or does anyone believe Dan can land one of his Bombs on Fedor?
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Hendo can always win. That's why this is a shit fight for Fedor. He's bigger and supposed to win, but can't ever count Hendo out. It's a worst fight that Fedor Lindland as far as risk vs reward.
 
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TheNatural said:
It's no big deal, I saw the fight, I didn't mean to make it come off like it was one sided, but the guy did get beat up pretty good - and he rocked Diaz too as well. It was a good fight, Daley ran completely out of steam in the end though, it was pretty much all Diaz late in the fight until it was stopped.
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Well that was his big problem. We all know Diaz has stamina for days and those Body shots Daley took and him trying to finish with just over a minute on the clock all contributed to make Daley pretty unsteady on his feet. When he fell over the way he did after shoving Diaz he must of been seriously exhausted.
 
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Shogun PaiN said:
Well that was his big problem. We all know Diaz has stamina for days and those Body shots Daley took and him trying to finish with just over a minute on the clock all contributed to make Daley pretty unsteady on his feet. When he fell over the way he did after shoving Diaz he must of been seriously exhausted.
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Yeah I mean he got beat up and was tired at the same time, so it really wore him down. I don't like either guy personally, I probably like Diaz less than Daley actually, so I didn't mind seeing them beat the shit out of each other. And after all this Diaz gets GSP and Daley gets some wrestler prospect, which is his weakness. I think Daley better win if he wants to have any shot to get back in the good graces with Zuffa and actually have a job once his contract is up.
 
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TheNatural said:
Um, its Saturday. And stream links aren't allowed here lol.
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Lol whoops missed the date but managed to trawl every other bit of the OP (especially that ass gif). Are you sure stream links aren't allowed? Pretty sure people have posted them in every single fight thread I've ever posted in.
 
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yacobod

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Going to the fights Saturday, first live event since Fedor/Rodgers like 2 years ago.

Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko
Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

If Fedor wins, and then Tito follows it up the following week against Rashad, it's going to be an excellent 2 weeks of mma.

WAR FEDOR

and starting the WAR TITO a little early
 
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polyh3dron

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TheNatural said:
Wow. Miesha. :eek:

"Miesha was the latest subject of The Shoot Media's awesome mini documentary series. Watch it and learn about how she would make boys cry on the wrestling team and how much she wants to kill lay on top of Marloes."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmq6jqoZtrA&feature=player_embedded
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Fixed.

My picks:

Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko - 2nd round submission, probably RNC.
Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate - 4th round submission, probably triangle.
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler - 2nd round KO
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley - decision via LNP
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith - decision via meh
 
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SteveWD40

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Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko - Going to go with Sub for the long shot.
Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate - UD
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler - TKO (Round 1)
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley - KO (Round 2)
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith - UD

Some guess work in there, don't know an awfull lot about Coenen or Saffiedine.

I like to think Fedor can grab a hold of something, he isn't going to KO Hendo imho.

I want to see Kennedy get laid out, his "I called Bisping out cos I hate cheaters" was horsehit, you never called out Nate or Chael, you called Bisping out because, much like Rivera, Cote and Belcher you felt you could trade on his name and get a main card payday in the UFC.

Daley works hard on his TDD, he stuffed some of Kos's and got up a few times, he stuffed Shields a few times as well (and ended the first dropping elbows on Jake), he has the tools I think to stay up and Woodley is no Kos imho.
 
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Really excited about this matchup. Hendo is on a much better streak, but it's not like he's gonna catch Fedor in a quick submission or overwhelm him with size. Fedor should take this unless he continues to decline.
 
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