'Style in The Wire'

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Thanks for posting! Watching now :)

edit, there's some spoilers, but not too heavy so far (edit2, don't watch unless you've seen the whole show)

An interesting topic, considering that The Wire wasn't even filmed in widescreen.

Will watch it in a bit.
He does touch on that! I'm not 100% convinced 4x3 was the right choice but it definitely had it's legitimate reasons
 
An interesting topic, considering that The Wire wasn't even filmed in widescreen.

Will watch it in a bit.

Edit: Didn't realise there was only one flashback in the entire series. And it would stick out if I watched Season 1 again.
 
Awesome, just started up my second go-through of the series

He does touch on that! I'm not 100% convinced 4x3 was the right choice but it definitely had it's legitimate reasons

From what I remember it would have been a bit odd in 16x9 considering that the show is mainly lots and lots of character interaction. There would have been a lot of negative space. The 4x3 ratio gave the series a tighter more personal feel in regards to character interactions. Just my feel on this.
 
Just watched all of this, thanks. It was actually quite interesting, some cool stuff on the framing.
 
Pretty interesting, I also like the minimalist style. The show doesn't need to change the music to tell you how to feel when one of the main characters dies. They just die.
 
Interesting video. I was especially interested in the discussion of music in the show; many people cit the lack of prominent music as a weakness of the show in comparison to The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, but I liked The Wire's realistic approach. The one scene that did feature music - in S1 with Stringer and Avon walking through the Pit in slow motion - is one of the worst scenes of the series imo. It felt out of place and poorly handled.

In terms of the way it's shot, I still feel that while it's certainly good, it's not as good as the cinematography in The Sopranos or Breaking Bad. But overall The Wire is superior, and the better show
 
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Edit: Didn't realise there was only one flashback in the entire series. And it would stick out if I watched Season 1 again.

Only one flashback in 5 seasons?


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Never even realized. :o
 
Interesting video. I was especially interested in the discussion of music in the show; many people cit the lack of prominent music as a weakness of the show in comparison to The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, but I liked The Wire's realistic approach. The one scene that did feature music - in S1 with Stringer and Avon walking through the Pit in slow motion - is one of the worst scenes of the series imo. It felt out of place and poorly handled.

In terms of the way it's shot, I still feel that while it's certainly good, it's not as good as the cinematography in The Sopranos or Breaking Bad. But overall The Wire is superior, and the better show
Yeah this video was awesome, makes me want to do a 3rd watch now.
 
I watched the whole thing until the last season. That new fucker (forgot his name) ruined it for me. I'll watch this one later :D
 
I loved the Wire, but for sheer consistency the Shield wins. It's a shame some people were put off by the no-swearing rule in The Shield, it happens once when Shane is fighting an Alabanian hitman, but that's it.
 
I ordered S1 of The Shield from Amazon on Tuesday. Can't wait to get started. I see it compared to The Wire, which I'm a huge fan of, a lot.
 
Regarding the flashback dissection (season 5 spoilers)
when Omar was killed, it felt epic realising it was the same kid 'pretending to be Omar' in front of Bunk from earlier on in the series. this prompts Bunk to confront Omar about how bad things were getting and how there was no civility between the corners and the civilians. Omar of course doesn't buy it, which is why he doesn't clock the kid coming in the shop as a potential threat. A flashback would have killed that moment
 
I loved the Wire, but for sheer consistency the Shield wins. It's a shame some people were put off by the no-swearing rule in The Shield, it happens once when Shane is fighting an Alabanian hitman, but that's it.

Relevance? This seems a little out of nowhere in this thread.
 
Edit: Didn't realise there was only one flashback in the entire series. And it would stick out if I watched Season 1 again.
David Simon talks about it in the commentary track.
They pretty much forced him to do that, they were worried that people wouldn't remember that particular character.

Edit: haven't watched the video yet, he may talk about that.
 
The Shield blows. I gave that show an honest go and I couldn't do it. Michael Chiklis is awful. COME AT ME, GAF.
Interesting video. I was especially interested in the discussion of music in the show; many people cit the lack of prominent music as a weakness of the show in comparison to The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, but I liked The Wire's realistic approach. The one scene that did feature music - in S1 with Stringer and Avon walking through the Pit in slow motion - is one of the worst scenes of the series imo. It felt out of place and poorly handled.

In terms of the way it's shot, I still feel that while it's certainly good, it's not as good as the cinematography in The Sopranos or Breaking Bad. But overall The Wire is superior, and the better show
I wouldn't give the cinematography of Breaking Bad too much credit. I'd say it's comparable to The Wire. Both are amazing shows, with great camera work, by the way. I'm not sure where I stand on the music utilized; there is no universal assessment for television, everything needs to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But, overall, I was underwhelmed aside from a few gems here and there (excluding Down in the Hole, obviously). This was my favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAh8eIZLld0 That scene is just beautifully done.
 
I'll check this when I get the chance.

I don't ever watch series nowadays, but damnit, when curiosity called and I started watching The Wire, it was probably the best damn series I had watched in my life. Time flew with each episode.
 
Thanks for posting, interesting video..

I'm having trouble not picturing the narrator as the narrator of the first episode of The Boondocks Season 3.
 
David Simon talks about it in the commentary track.
They pretty much forced him to do that, they were worried that people wouldn't remember that particular character.

Similar to this...As far as I know, David Simon has yet to talk about what his train track metaphor is. Throughout the entire series and post finale he would point out that no one writing about the show was able to decipher what he was trying to say when Bunk and McNulty have their talks at the rail yards.


Interview from 2006:

Q: We heard about your frustration over the critics not noticing the train symbolism. What else don't we get that bothers you?

A: Frustration is overstating it, perhaps. But I am often surprised that sometimes the most fundamental thematic symbolism is ignored in television, where in a feature film it would be acknowledged and discussed. So much of television has for so long been filmed in a rapid-fire, utilitarian fashion that when filmmakers attempt to use the medium in any kind of visual or allegorical way, it rolls right past many people. This is true of some other well-made dramas on HBO as well.
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Interview POST Series Finale:

Q:I'll start with the obvious one. The show's ending, this is your last chance to do this: What the hell do the train tracks mean? (NOTE: Simon has in the past expressed surprise that no critic has ever correctly interpreted the symbolism of why McNulty and Bunk's drunken bull sessions usually take place beside train tracks.)

David Simon: No shot. You're not getting it out of me.

Q: Oh, come on!

David Simon: To talk about symbolism, if people get it, they get it. if they don't, telling it to them ruins it. You know that.
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This random internet posting is what I assume it means:

The key signifier in the show was Bunk and McNulty getting drunk by the train tracks. The train train tracks symbolize the unalterable steel shod inevitability of fate and the institutions that cannot change direction. And perhaps the key scene in the entire series was McNulty urinating on the tracks while the train approached from behind him, unaware in his eagerness to stick it to the powers that be that the only choices he has are to get out of the way or be crushed.
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