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My LG tv notified me they removed the tick tok app.

They had to. This ban punishes the app stores that distribute the app and the technology companies that support it. They can be fined $5,000 per user per day for people who are still able to access it.

 

[od-chan]

Please ban it in the UK too.

That's the great thing, we don't need other countries to ban it now anymore anyways. With the US gone, TikTok will (hopefully and expectedly) lose traction very quickly in other parts as well, and so the CCP is left with an app that no one uses anymore.

I kinda hate it because this will probably also impact my (very legally aged!) korean idols dancing in skimpy clothing to brainrot music I love, but since there's a market, there will be a new platform.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Drake]

My fear is that Trump just reinstates the app sometime next week. It really just needs to be gone for good. The issue here is that the Chinese use our own system against us while they have no qualms banning US companies over there. It really needs to be a tit-for-tat situation especially because China is using this to spy on US citizens.

 

[SlimySnake]

My fear is that Trump just reinstates the app sometime next week. It really just needs to be gone for good. The issue here is that the Chinese use our own system against us while they have no qualms banning US companies over there. It really needs to be a tit-for-tat situation especially because China is using this to spy on US citizens.

He can only reinstate it for 90 days. The Supreme Court has ruled the ban is lawful so trump can't overrule them. He will but them 90 days to find another buyer.

 

[ManaByte]

My fear is that Trump just reinstates the app sometime next week. It really just needs to be gone for good. The issue here is that the Chinese use our own system against us while they have no qualms banning US companies over there. It really needs to be a tit-for-tat situation especially because China is using this to spy on US citizens.

 

[Generic]

Why should americans care about what happens in China?

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Why should americans care about what happens in China?

Because China is unstoppable. Now Warner Bros is crying, I woke up with good news.

 

[Generic]

Because China is unstoppable. Now Warner Bros is crying, I woke up with good news.

Americans should make better products then.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Can't America just make their own version? It's just a shitty app with short videos?

Am I missing something here? Why does it have to be a Chinese owned app?

Are people that indoctrinated they can't have an alternative.

 

[ManaByte]

Can't America just make their own version? It's just a shitty app with short videos?

They did. It's called Instagram.

Are people that indoctrinated they can't have an alternative.

Yes. Six years of programming does that.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Facebook isn't run by the CCP.

So what. Facebook has behaved as a totalitarian truth-sayer with a bigger impact in our daily life than the CCP, both in USA and in Europe. Sorry if I don't give that much importance to a boogeyman on the other side of the world when it's my own government who can fuck me up.

The covid crisis has been a scary sample of how our governments have used social media against us. And no, it wasn't China (funny enough none of those social networks allowed you to speculate about the most plausible theory on the outbreak).

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

Doing something less than a full ban is lessening the power of the legislative, presidential signature, and Supreme Court.

China did their thing. Americans can whine, vote people out of power, build a better mousetrap, or be as seditious as they please if they care about the app. But at that point it is truly an American process, which is better than what the TikTok was influencing.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Americans should make better products then.

That is why in Mexico we thank our previous president and the woman president we have

 

[Generic]

So what. Facebook has behaved as a totalitarian truth-sayer with a bigger impact in our daily life than the CCP, both in USA and in Europe. Sorry if I don't give that much importance to a boogeyman on the other side of the world when it's my own government who can fuck me up.

The covid crisis has been a scary sample of how our governments have used social media against us. And no, it wasn't China (funny enough none of those social networks allowed you to speculate about the most plausible theory on the outbreak).

I will add that no chinese company ever called me racist.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

They did. It's called Instagram.



Yes. Six years of programming does that.

Crazy, isn't it. It really does go to show just how fooked everything truly is

 

[Generic]

They did. It's called Instagram.



Yes. Six years of programming does that.

Maybe some people simply prefer TikTok over Instagram.

I'm curious how banning TikTok will benefit consumers.

 

[Guileless]

So what. Facebook has behaved as a totalitarian truth-sayer with a bigger impact in our daily life than the CCP, both in USA and in Europe. Sorry if I don't give that much importance to a boogeyman on the other side of the world when it's my own government who can fuck me up.

The covid crisis has been a scary sample of how our governments have used social media against us. And no, it wasn't China (funny enough none of those social networks allowed you to speculate about the most plausible theory on the outbreak).

I get where you're coming from with your valid criticisms about how Facebook and Twitter acted during Covid and the 'misinformation' period. But that is hopefully over now with some degree of sanity being restored, and everything they did at the behest of the "Resistance" and later the Biden Admin is just a drop in the bucket compared to the levers of control the CCP exercises and is perfecting. Those methods and technical expertise for population thought control won't stay in China.

There is a nonzero chance members of this forum will be drafted to fight in a war with China.

 

[DeafTourette]

As they've hinted, Trump will bring it back and all the young voters will go to Rep, Dems got played soo hard.

I doubt that.

Also... TikTok isn't as bad as some of y'all are saying. I've been thoroughly entertained and informed on TikTok more than I have been on most other apps. I saw speeches by Dr. King and FDR on there that I've never seen before, or heard them if there wasn't video (like being on the radio) and how there was so much more to Dr. King than just "I Have A Dream". Not just them, but I discovered people like Angela Davis, Nikki Giovanni, James Baldwin, etc.

I discovered (not in the Christopher Columbus way) the dancing sisters Let It Happen, musical mashup geniuses (I forget his handle), comedians I actually like like L'Eah Sampson and others ... Including Spanish teaching (I learned a bit) and crocheting and lots of other things, not to mention people used it to sell their wanted to make a living.

So while the skibidis get the attention for being vapid, there were a lot of good accounts on there.

 

[winjer]

Why should americans care about what happens in China?

Because the CCP cares a lot about what happens in the USA.

 

[reinking]

As they've hinted, Trump will bring it back and all the young voters will go to Rep, Dems got played soo hard.

I hope not. If we reinstate TikTok after they shutdown we are signaling to the CCP that they will win. We care more about our shiny little videos than we do about our own security. There is a reason they did not sell TikTok. They know how we spoiled Americans are going to react. They even went dark early so they can watch this unfold.

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

Distraction

 

[EviLore]

 

[DeafTourette]

I hope not. If we reinstate TikTok after they shutdown we are signaling to the CCP that they will win. We care more about our shiny little videos than we do about our own security. There is a reason they did not sell TikTok. They know how we spoiled Americans are going to react. They even went dark early so they can watch this unfold.

There were politicians on the app .. some of the SAME ones who voted to ban it! Left or right! And they stayed on it till it shut down.

Make it make sense.

 

[dorkimoe]

I hope not. If we reinstate TikTok after they shutdown we are signaling to the CCP that they will win. We care more about our shiny little videos than we do about our own security. There is a reason they did not sell TikTok. They know how we spoiled Americans are going to react. They even went dark early so they can watch this unfold.

This has nothing to do with CCP. They tried to bring the data here: https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about/ meanwhile Temu, Shein and everything else still works. Its about censorship not our data. If they cared about our data they would pass privacy laws not accept bribes from Zuckerberg to ban it

 

[dorkimoe]

Now ask him again if he'd let his children use instagram, or twitter. Hardest no possible as well. Thats not a tiktok answer thats an entire social media answer

 

[Klosshufvud]

He could be meaning so many more things than "If my kids use this app, then China owns their souls" though.

 

[Badlucktroll]

for all we know tiktok is subliminally and secretly planting the seeds to turn all of american gen z into communists

 

[ssringo]

Related: I tried logging in to an idle gacha I use to waste time (so no spending) and it wasn't available either.

Oh well, uninstall!

 

[dorkimoe]

I can't wait to be reminded how evil china is with all the Temu ads during the superbowl

 

[EviLore]

People are calling 911 because TikTok is gone

 

[diffusionx]

He can only reinstate it for 90 days. The Supreme Court has ruled the ban is lawful so trump can't overrule them. He will but them 90 days to find another buyer.

Well, the way the ban works is that it is in place if the President declares that TikTok or whomever meets certain conditions. As the President, Trump can declare that those conditions are not met.

Congress can't actually pass a law saying "TikTok is banned." That is unconstitutional and they didn't do that.

Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[reinking]

This has nothing to do with CCP. They tried to bring the data here: https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about/ meanwhile Temu, Shein and everything else still works. Its about censorship not our data. If they cared about our data they would pass privacy laws not accept bribes from Zuckerberg to ban it

Does ByteDance own TikTok?

Regardless of who owns ByteDance these days, is ByteDance beholden to law which they are legally required to cooperate with CCP intelligence?

I have no problem if they want to look into further foreign apps and even US owned apps. That being said, because Temu is still operating, it doesn't change anything for TikTok or make it any more or less a security threat. IMO, data collection should have been regulated a lot more closely before it became the issue it is today.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

It will be back as soon as Monday. Trump will sign executive order, then it can be ironed out further. Nothingburger.

 

[violence]

I haven't been using the app very long. I felt like I was learning more from the YouTube rip off version.

Instagram makes me wonder why cat ladies ever went after video games.

 

[SlimySnake]

Now ask him again if he'd let his children use instagram, or twitter. Hardest no possible as well. Thats not a tiktok answer thats an entire social media answer

i remember how zuckerberg and a bunch of other tech bros wouldnt even let their kids use ipads. let alone social media.

youtube is cancer too. some of the shit my kids watch is insane. i uninstall the app from the tvs but i cant block it so they install it again.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

i remember how zuckerberg and a bunch of other tech bros wouldnt even let their kids use ipads. let alone social media.

youtube is cancer too. some of the shit my kids watch is insane. i uninstall the app from the tvs but i cant block it so they install it again.

Yep, and neither should you. I don't allow mine.

 

[simpatico]

If they really meant it and this isn't some anti competative measure dressed up in the flag; when will the government act on the 380,000 acres of farmland they own? Both my daughters are already on Red Note. We had some fun this morning making videos for the Chinese. If anything, this could do wonders for non-governmental population relations. Just imagine, Chinese citizens and Americans becomes besties and our govts just rage about it. That's the best ending. I've gone to China for work several times and have nothing but good things to say about those people. If we just got to know each other we can mutually tell our govs to kick rocks. Or at least get the ball rolling on some such measures.

 

[DeafTourette]

If they really meant it and this isn't some anti competative measure dressed up in the flag; when will the government act on the 380,000 acres of farmland they own? Both my daughters are already on Red Note. We had some fun this morning making videos for the Chinese. If anything, this could do wonders for non-governmental population relations. Just imagine, Chinese citizens and Americans becomes besties and our govts just rage about it. That's the best ending. I've gone to China for work several times and have nothing but good things to say about those people. If we just got to know each other we can mutually tell our govs to kick rocks. Or at least get the ball rolling on some such measures.

Agreed. Corruption runs rampant in both govts. They can both kick rocks.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Agreed. Corruption runs rampant in both govts. They can both kick rocks.

This is a wonderful example why we need more education and less social media - "both sides" argument.

Anyway, on the subject:

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Both my daughters are already on Red Note.

You should spend a little bit more time educating your kids instead of leaving this to the apps.

 

[DeafTourette]

This is a wonderful example why we need more education and less social media - "both sides" argument.

Anyway, on the subject:

I mean... Is the American government NOT corrupt (especially the incoming govt)... We already know CCP is...

"There only a few .... pinpricks of light" in the federal government... And they barely have power.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I mean... Is the American government NOT corrupt (especially the incoming govt)... We already know CCP is...

"There only a few .... pinpricks of light" in the federal government... And they barely have power.

You have no idea what you are talking about if you are equating Chinese and US governments on anything, corruption included.

 

[simpatico]

You should spend a little bit more time educating your kids instead of leaving this to the apps.

We're of the opinion this banning is just anti-competitive. Frankly I don't care if China knows what videos I like to watch. Much more concerned about our own government. Another point to this being a dog and pony show: Do you know who pays for the shipping when you order a fake Final Fantasy plushie from AliExpress? Have you ever gotten a quote to send a similar sized parcel to China? Get back to me on this one. My kids do.

 

[DeafTourette]

You have no idea what you are talking about if you are equating Chinese and US governments on anything, corruption included.

Ok. As the country turns into an oligarchy.

 

[MikeM]

You mean like seizing the financials of truckers?

The government made a mistake going that far.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

We're of the opinion this banning is just anti-competitive.

There are other factors at play than money making here. China is actively making Western youth (including your daughters) dumber.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

There are other factors at play than money making here. China is actively making Western youth (including your daughters) dumber.

Yes, because all that content on Tiktok isn't on FB, Insta, Twitter.. Okay.

 

[DeafTourette]

There are other factors at play than money making here. China is actively making Western youth (including your daughters) dumber.

Then so is Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

But as I said above, I found many accounts I actually learned from like LeVert The Bassman and others... I learned some Spanish... I saw and heard more from Dr. King and JFK and Angela Davis and James Baldwin and Nikki Giovanni and the Black Panthers and George Bush and others than I ever did here or in the past 40 years. All on TikTok. That's just scratching the surface.