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TikTok has shut down in the US (UP: TikTok is in the process of restoring service in the US)
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ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
Hail to the Supreme Leader!
HoodWinked
Member
Ya not sure how this even works anymore. Cause the law went into effect and Trump isn't even president yet so he doesn't have the authority.
Only thing I can think of is that TikTok will operate illegally for today and pay whatever fee. And then will get an exec order for delay for in the coming days.
Only thing I can think of is that TikTok will operate illegally for today and pay whatever fee. And then will get an exec order for delay for in the coming days.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Think he told them he pinky swears not to cancel the fines once he gets into office.
ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
Minimum wage is a state issue, not the federal issue (for obvious reasons). And what about health care? It is already the biggest debt generator.
I think there was a legislation that allowed to extend the timeline for 90 days or something.
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TonberrysKnife
Member
I had a conversation about this shit with several friends of mine. I have NEVER seen such swift bipartisan government action to shut down a fucking social media app so fucking fast. And yet, no one gives a fuck about a minimum wage hike, healthcare, inflation, homelessness, etc. And YET, TikTok literally gets shut down!? Even those who want it banned are fucking using it. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. All this talk about "CHINA HAS ALL THIS DATA" and not realizing, nor caring, that the US literally has 0 privacy laws/protections for it's citizens; Europe at least gives two shits with GDPR.
Yet, Facebook got a slap on the wrist with a $500k fine for the Cambridge Analytica shit; and Twitter now stating they can use your info for AI training without your consent. I am so fucking baffled.
od-chan
Member
I really mean no offense by this, but I'm amazed by some of the stuff I read on here. For some reason I assumed this was the kind of thing I would read on reddit or twitter and somehow surely gaf would be better, right? Really tells you more about me than about the people posting that.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
This is true, but banning Tik Tok or any other is the short-sighted answer to a deep problem that needs to be addressed with long-term societal actions.
People are becoming dumber with each passing year, losing their ability to focus and think critically. That starts in schools. It follows at home, with parents who don't encourage their kids to have a balanced life. I was lucky to grow up in the pre-internet era, I read a lot and discussed issues with actual friends instead of "followers".
Honest politicians, parents and teachers should start thinking seriously about youth, encourage them to grab a book (other than Harry Potter), and do activities that challenge their brains. Social media is the consequence of a bigger problem, not the cause.
Tams
Member
Huawei literally had secret labs stealing IP and the UK foudn their coding in thwir network equipment to be shit (which itself is a security risk).
Tams
Member
TikTok has been found to allow accounts to be created by underage people too, and then very quickly serving them up content such as self-harm and suicide.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Anyone can make accounts on all these other platforms also.. there's no age verification, what are you talking about?
ReBurn
Gold Member
I love that people were actually calling 911 over it.
ReBurn
Gold Member
That person believes literally everything she sees online. She needs a break from social media for some inpatient mental health treatment.As to be expected, there's some... interesting takes on reddit about all of this.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Nowhere, Tiktok is back.
Goalus
Member
As can be seen from the quoted Reddit post above, thots' livelihood depends on Tiktok. Trump saved the thots.
Sonik
Member
As to be expected, there's some... interesting takes on reddit about all of this.
Hysteria should have never been removed as an official mental diagnosis
Brigandier
Member
Cool now ban it in the UK too along with Snapchat and Facebook, Kids and young people in the UK are thick as pig shit and social media and dumb apps filled with these bullshitting influencers and "hack" videos brainwash people....
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digital_ghost
Member
Breaking news: Workplace productivity has increased 67% since tik tok shutdown.
TheDreadLord
Member
I don’t understand why people support decisions like this, which are made by a bunch of bureaucrats. The good thing is that they don’t understand technology very well, making it difficult to enforce such bans. Nowadays, we have VPNs and other tools to bypass these restrictions. Btw, I also don’t get why people use TikTok, but better be their decision than someone’s else.
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DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Ease of use, discoverability, etc.
ReBurn
Gold Member
In this case the politicians seemed to understand the technology very well. VPN's won't help in the case of TikTok when the ban holds responsible the US-based app stores who distribute it and US-based companies like Oracle who provide the onshore network infrastructure. They probably can't do anything to Bytedance, but they can certainly penalize US-based partners until they refuse to work with them anymore.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Tiktok viewers don’t work. They are mostly housewives and children.
Thaimasker
Member
What about Healthcare? The biggest scam in the u.s? The top Leaders on both sides say that it's trash and needs to be drastically changed but they'll not actually change it because health insurance companies are some of their biggest donors.
Top studies have shown The government wouldn't even need to put much more money into it, just get rid of the scam and we'll be in a much better place.
And that's not to mention trump plans to spend trillions of $ on other shit. It's not like we, the richest country are somehow the 1 country that can't afford it.
We have way more important issues to be solved than tiktok
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The US gov could make up tons of money if people got taxed more like in just about every other western or rich country. But the Us has pretty low income tax, goods/services state tax, capital gains tax, and the US is one of only a handful of countries that allow people to deduct mortgage interest expense of some sort.
The money is there. But the gov prefers people to hold onto more of their money instead pay a bit more tax to contribute to the greater good (like healthcare). Thats why the US is such a have and have not country compared to other places.
If the avg person (about 330M people) just paid a grand total of $100 more tax (however the federal or state gov wants to divide it out), that's $33B in tax revenue alone. $1,000 is $330B.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is basically how my conversation went with my female friend. Tiktok has latched on to bored housewives and feminists in a way even magazines couldn’t. They are being constantly brainwashed just like incels on twitter. But when i tell them that incel leaders like Andrew tate and fresh and fit were deplatformed as well. they don’t care. They turn to some other conspiracy theory about how America is exploiting its women in some kind of rape as a cottage industry or forcing them into being housewives or slaves to their male corporate managers.As to be expected, there's some... interesting takes on reddit about all of this.
No one is talking about this because women are untouchable when it comes to this discourse but the biggest damage done by tiktok is not to kids but women in their 30s and 40s. I’ve personally seen the toxic effects of this in my extended family and my friend is pretty much a left wing qnon now.
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DownLikeBCPowder
Member
????? I agree it should be a state issue, but there is certainly a Federal minimum wage which sets the floor.
reddit is fine as long as you stay away from politics.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Trump was afraid that they would close TikTok
I thought “every” app does this? I mean I’m sure Facebook/Instagram/X do this too. Never use in app browsers!
Yes. TikTok is a distraction for the idiot masses.
Kadve
Member
He made a three month stay of execution. After that TikTok will be banned again unless the law is revoked or Bytedance sells to an US company.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Bread and circuses for the people. Pay no attention to the billionaire donors whose net worth conveniently keeps going up while yours doesn't.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Huawei got banned because it’s not a good idea your IT infrastructure is built and maintained by a company with links to the Chinese Army, just how naive can you be?
ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
They had the opportunity to repeal Obamacare but McCain - after years of campaigning against it - just blocked the repeal. Now it is close to impossible to fix it due to it being a politically suicidal topic ("he is taking away the health care!"). Obamacare created a huge regulatory barrier but there is no way out for a time being. But the chance to repeal it was 8 years. Not anymore.
No. The quality of life in each state is different so the federal minimum wage should not exist. It is similar to European union - you cannot enforce the minimum wage across regions/areas with different economy. It is just not good for business. For example in NL, the minimum monthly wage is 2k, while in Portugal it is 1k. Different countries with different economies. You can't enforce that with states either. States like California are much more expensive than for example Ohio.
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Lethal01
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DownLikeBCPowder
Member
No what? The Federal Minimum Wage exists. It sets the floor. It is absolutely a federal issue in terms of current legal conditions. There's no "no".
Again, I agree with you, but it's not "a state issue".
Well, they are and they do. It is enforced in the United States. There are 15 States in the Union that are at the same level of the Federal Minimum Wage. Those states would likely have lower minimum wages if not for the Federal Government. Again, I agree with what you are saying - minimum wage absolutely should be an issue completely reserved for the states and the Federal Government should have no role. But they do. Not only do they have influence, but they are enforcing that with the States. No idea what you are talking about.
Any day prior to that, Biden could have stolen the thunder. This gift was freely given, but now tears flow suggesting it was an elaborate trap. Ok. The social media companies are "all over his balls" because they opted to restrict first amendment rights, censor media and individuals, and promote lies for the past four years, including a senile sitting president. They want to attempt to avoid legal repercussion that is potentially coming. That's it.
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ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
Just because it exists, it does not mean it should exist that way. I assumed that you wanted to have a higher minimum wage right?
Cyberpunkd
Member
Let's start with changing it for restaurant workers, that have wage mandated at $1-2 per hour because of tips.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Again, I agree. It shouldn't.
No. I do not want higher minimum wage for the sake of higher minimum wage. I prefer the market determine wages. Private interactions with employers and employees, it's not the government's business. Artificially inflating the minimum wage merely causes price increases across the board and reduces opportunity. Does setting the cost of food, fuel, or whatever it may be artificially low solve the issue of high price? No. Price/wage controls do not work as intended. Continuing to raise the minimum wage by decree simply reduces entry positions available for inexperienced and young workers.
My posts are merely refuting the idea that the Federal Government has no role (in the present legal environment), which it seemed from your posts that was what you were stating. Now it sounds like you are saying that you meant "they should not be involved". Not meaning to derail the thread or anything.
Sort of. Yes, the minimum for tipped wages is a little over $2.00. However, if tips + that wage do not exceed the "Federal Minimum", the employer must cover that gap. IE $7.25, or whatever number is arbitrarily set as the Federal Minimum. In other words, it's still the Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25 effectively. Typically, though, tipped employees exceed this number by a significant amount, but not in all cases.
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
I wonder if the EU will follow their lead.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
How did he do that when he gets sworn in today?