amishpriest99
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Same here. Characters came off a bit flat to me but that's not why I went to see it. The IMAX 3D price was totally worth it.
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Summer 2013 Anime |10th Dimensional OT| the first ignoble truth: all of life is anime
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Same here. Characters came off a bit flat to me but that's not why I went to see it. The IMAX 3D price was totally worth it.
I'm not sure what you arguing here, Light Novel is pretty niche media even among otaku.. many of them not gonna interested before it got anime. So implying SAO's LN as massive brand before the anime just incorrect. You confusing its popularity in japan (before anime) to the hype its get in LN's translation scene among foreign fans.
EDIT : thanks to westlo for correcting the sales number.
Dedication Through Light
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Oh, I skipped the Watanabe signings since I got one when he was in London back in May, but whilst I never got the particulars out of them, a couple of my friends were pretty annoyed with how the Friday session went (they did get their signatures at the second signing though, so all's OK).
I'm not saying that SAO is a MASSIVE brand nor am I saying it's as popular as AoT pre or post anime launch. I'm saying that SAO was quite popular prior to the anime, the sales did really well among its peers, and after the anime it took off even more. If you can't see what I'm trying to say, then you're ignoring my points or you just don't want to discuss this properly. As an added bonus, the foreign translation started before the anime announcement and was popular even prior.
Hellsing321
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You're talking about the manga, right? I don't think I've ever seen the DVDs chart.
The show must do pretty good in ratings on its time slot though.
I don't really care about any manga at all, so I wouldn't now, but I can't agree that anime is no good. Unless there are several anime that is really good and somebody is hiding it from us. In comparison, it's good, and even for hyperbole's sake I can't see it as horrible.
Dedication Through Light
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I thought the anime has been getting lower and lower ratings now...
Yes! Precure 5 - 16
Aaaaaand it's a focus episode for the last character who hasn't had one since the introductions yet - Komachi! She shows the group a pirate adventure story she's been writing, and everyone is super positive about it...except Nuts, who tells her that objectively speaking, he doesn't think it's up to scratch. This gets Komachi all depressed and she considers giving up her dream of becoming an author. Meanwhile the rest of the girls get mad at Nuts.
Nuts feels pretty guilty too, but he can't take back what he said because that would be dishonest. So he goes to see Komachi and give her some more constructive criticism and encourage her not to give up on her DREEEEEEAM. Good call, Nuts, even if encouragement isn't your strong suit. It's the thought that counts.
And then Arachnea shows up to crash the party, dragging everyone inside Komachi's story to attack them with a giant pirate ship Kowaina. Because hey, why not? If she was hoping to cause the Cures to despair, though, she had another thing coming, because the Power of Friendship and Hope and Dreams always wins out in the face of adversity. Doubly so when you're basing your method of attack on a story whose defining feature is a main character who never gives up. Didn't really think that one through, did you, spider-woman?
Oh, and apparently Komachi has a Cool Big Sister who looks almost completely identical to her. So that was a thing.
Aaaaaand it's a focus episode for the last character who hasn't had one since the introductions yet - Komachi! She shows the group a pirate adventure story she's been writing, and everyone is super positive about it...except Nuts, who tells her that objectively speaking, he doesn't think it's up to scratch. This gets Komachi all depressed and she considers giving up her dream of becoming an author. Meanwhile the rest of the girls get mad at Nuts.
Nuts feels pretty guilty too, but he can't take back what he said because that would be dishonest. So he goes to see Komachi and give her some more constructive criticism and encourage her not to give up on her DREEEEEEAM. Good call, Nuts, even if encouragement isn't your strong suit. It's the thought that counts.
And then Arachnea shows up to crash the party, dragging everyone inside Komachi's story to attack them with a giant pirate ship Kowaina. Because hey, why not? If she was hoping to cause the Cures to despair, though, she had another thing coming, because the Power of Friendship and Hope and Dreams always wins out in the face of adversity. Doubly so when you're basing your method of attack on a story whose defining feature is a main character who never gives up. Didn't really think that one through, did you, spider-woman?
Oh, and apparently Komachi has a Cool Big Sister who looks almost completely identical to her. So that was a thing.
R_thanatos
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And thus marked the start of Nuts x komachi shipping that lasted 2 years.....
Can you remind me the name of komachi sister ? it's been a while
Madoka.
I dunno, look at what happened to Magi's sales.
The issue isn't as much synth as it is using synth to simulate real instruments. Using synth for its own inherent qualities is completely different.
BassForever
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Silver Spoon 4
Man Silver Spoon is such a great show, watching Hachiken figure out all the ways the school could help him make pizza was super satisfying, show also makes me really freaking hungry lol.
Man Silver Spoon is such a great show, watching Hachiken figure out all the ways the school could help him make pizza was super satisfying, show also makes me really freaking hungry lol.
KirbYuuYuu
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It started since like episode 1
This is a bit of a spoiler for the next arc but
if you don't like Asuna being reduced to a damsel in distress, you're not going to like the next arc very much
But Nuts didn't even appear until Episode 7! OP/ED and eyecatches notwithstanding.
I guess shipping of him with Komachi was fairly inevitable though, considering his Designated Favourite Food is the daifuku that she brings. Quickest way to a squirrel's heart is through his stomach.
KirbYuuYuu
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Yep it was the eyecatches. Although.... their designated foods are like... the only thing they practically eat.
Theonik
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First volume sold pretty well iirc.
While I agree that synth is best when used for synth's sake, even when emulating instruments it all comes down to execution. And given how many shows still use synth for that I wouldn't say it necessarily sounds dated either.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Wrong thread.
BassForever
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MJP 18
Please tell me there are some more mech porn gifs from this episodes fight?
Please tell me there are some more mech porn gifs from this episodes fight?
hosannainexcelsis
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The Magi manga is not particularly popular.
Because of an event ticket.
Dedication Through Light
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There's always a boost when a shounen manga gets a big anime push, the majority of those sales are from new fans catching up on the dozen or so back volumes, so it's inflated. In terms of per volume sales, it's nowhere near the the top10. I don't even think it sells as much as Blue Exorcist.
Check the 2012 list ranking stuff by individual volume sales: http://www.oricon.co.jp/entertainment/ranking/2012/bookrank1203/index05.html
Magi isn't even in the Top50, which cuts off at 521k.
Turin Turambar
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I will say the manga is already a bit dramatic in a slightly cheesy way, for starters.
But it's true the anime intensifies the over-dramaticness, in part it's because when we see the same stuff happening "live" (with animation, voice overs of actors shouting, etc), it happens to be more exaggerated, even if it's all the same than the manga.
...and another part is pure direction from the director, who chose to over dramtize it. And that part I will agree it's a slight flaw of the anime.
There was a brief period when it looked like the anime was boosting the manga to new heights, though. It seems a bit silly to say an anime will sell regardless of quality when it's obviously possible to botch an adaptation so badly that its sales dwindle.
Looks like the first half of 2013 actually has Magi charting on the individual volume chart since the cutoff is much lower: http://www.oricon.co.jp/entertainment/ranking/2013/bookrank0603/index05_1.html
As of Vol16 its doing about 527,226. Not bad actually, but still significantly short of the goal the publisher had in mind when they pushed the anime. They were hoping to be able to print a million copies per volume.
As of Vol16 its doing about 527,226. Not bad actually, but still significantly short of the goal the publisher had in mind when they pushed the anime. They were hoping to be able to print a million copies per volume.
BassForever
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Devils and Realist 4
Finally meet the last main demon character who seems interesting enough. Need to see how he interacts with the main cast or if he continues to be a loner.
Finally meet the last main demon character who seems interesting enough. Need to see how he interacts with the main cast or if he continues to be a loner.
I don't think the quality really matters much for the sales. The majority of the extra sales push for these adaptations seem to come from new fans who get very interested in the material and decide to buy the anime and the manga initially. The trend -seems- to indicate that a lot of these fans are also female "fujoshi" fans, who tend to not really like getting ripped off so to speak. So the anime being overpriced and more expensive to collect will collapse as the volumes go by, while they stick to buying the manga and other merchandise instead.
The same thing happened with Blue Exorcist, where the first volume sold really well, and then the sales just collapsed after that. Meanwhile the manga is now selling over 800k per volume.
PdotMichael
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Well, it's crazy to think it's possible to predict such top hits like SnK. No one predicted that Madoka, Bakemonogatari or K-On would be such hits, there is no pattern.
dakkumauji
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Nice to see Maou-sama still selling well.
So hyped now. Can't wait to see it on Sunday now!
Crash Station
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Do swirlys exist in Japan?
I imagine she'd welcome bullying more than being flat out ignored. At least then she could say her life isn't completely insignificant to people outside her family.
firehawk12
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It's a non-nerd show though. That and the box sets are for super nerds who want the soundtracks. lol
I do wonder if shows like that and Sazae-san even bother trying to do disc releases beyond the perfunctory attempt to sell to the super nerd collectors.
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Also, for anyone who followed AnimeSols, does anyone remember what they were asking for the Creamy Mami set?
The Oniisama e... set is only $13,000, yet I seem to remember the other sets needing around 20k?
They also seem to have shut down every other funding effort and have focused on getting just one series done... which probably means they'll cycle between the shows that have gotten funded at this point... which then probably means that the second box set of Oniisama e..., if it ever happens, would be mid-late 2014. Yikes!
R_thanatos
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what ?
thought so.
at least nuts x komachi works much much better than coco x nozomi
I don't think things like mordance.gif did anything to keep the sales from plummeting as far as they did, though.
InsaneZero
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While it's not really possible to make a guaranteed hit, somebody at Aniplex must be doing something right if they're responsible for producing a large majority of high-selling anime as of recent.
The latter.
If your strategy are spamming project that with potential sure you can get few hit, also you gonna land some bomb.
Stuff like that has pretty much zero impact on sales. Do you seriously think anyone who pays 80 bucks for 3 episodes of anime on blu-ray really gives a shit about stuff like animation or writing? No, they're just people who want to spend money on stuff they're obsessed with. People who judge stuff sensibly generally don't buy anime from Japan much.
Attack on Titan has 2-3 minute recaps before the OP starts, tons of stills, and unfinished animation in some episodes. Doesn't stop it from getting huge sales.
I don't want it to flop. The show is very good.
PdotMichael
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Well, look at Vividred. It was pushed for like one year and it got the full Aniplex advertisement package and the average sales are like 5k.
I think it would be crazy if a production committee would calculate with more than 30k for the high profile titles.
KirbYuuYuu
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I was primarily referring to the eyecatches.
hosannainexcelsis
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Yowamushi Pedal:
Face it, no otaku wants to buy a farm anime even if it was Hiromu Arakawa.
People actually bought Aiura? Its like 2 mins long each episode. Granted it is really adorable so...
I'm a fan of Cars and I still weep for a childhood like that.
You were warned. No compassion for the foolish.
I remember the time I was partying with my friends and they put this on. I laughed my ass off then got sad.
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