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Midonin

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Blade Dance 01

Of the four currently adapted MF series, how have they stacked up?

Magical Warfare - A complete mess with a weird ending, but the characters were alright
Dragonar Academy - A little too terminology-heavy, but not terrible
No Game No Life - The most well received

So this one is probably the closest to Dragonar in terms of what it's doing, but with far less tentacles. Just replaced with more whips. The show's not throwing terms left and right, and, like Invaders, the main cast mostly consists of newbies. Only Ibuki Kido as Claire Rouge (I played a VN with a heroine named Flarerouge, so this is making me think of that) is the known name here. The premise is nothing special, but for someone who's a little bit of an M, I found the show alright. Not good, not bad, just alright. The devil's in the details, so I'll keep watching to see if it introduces any new twists to the formula.
 

mankoto

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I am still relucant to watch the second episode. Is the thing genuinly good or just hm edgy?
Both. It's gets better and the fights are pretty good. It's just sometimes it goes out of line. If you didn't like what happened in episode one, well, that's just the very tip of the iceberg.
 
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I forgot about this. I can work with this.
 

Chariot

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Both. It's gets better and the fights are pretty good. It's just sometimes it goes out of line. If you didn't like what happened in episode one, well, that's just the very tip of the iceberg.
It's less what happened and more how it happened. The quick change from "oh my god, my friends were tortured to death" to "haha, they taking him along and he makes a goofy face" was... odd at best.
I forgot about this. I can work with this.
*nosebleed*
 

TUSR

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Haha, I don't think we need a debate for that, or doe we?

Ill stand by my comments from a few weeks ago, there are worse community threads on GAF.

They say on the day the lewd was sealed from AnimeGAF the results were not quite what they hoped to achieve. Rather they sealing it away, they simply forced it to spread even worse throughout the rest of the Internet.

Its not even lewd. No where close to being Hot Pantsu Action Theonik Ban Worthy™
 

Caesnd

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The ride never ends. Yea it didn't seem that Yoshinari was 'training' them per say but rather just giving them corrections. They mention a lot about 'speaking through drawings' so that seems to be the bulk of interaction between Yoshinari and the animators. I'm not in their position so I don't know how long term beneficial that type of communication is compared to face to face schooling. It seems like Sushio sat down with them though and worked through some stuff. Masaru Sakamoto and Shūhei Handa seem to have gotten better as they were both the animation directors for KLK episodes(well either that or Trigger was really shorthanded).

Motto at Trigger looks to be, "Trial by fire".

Visual communication is by far the most powerful tool available when teaching art. There are no words that could have been exchanged that would have made up for the invaluable experience of just seeing professional work done first hand.

I was pretty perplexed at that, I had just chalked it up to the secret communication between animators.

I don't think that should be regarded as corrections as much as it is Yoshinaris own rendition of the scene, and if it were to have been implemented, would have neglected the impact that carrying a task through to completion has on the learning process.
 

mankoto

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It's less what happened and more how it happened. The quick change from "oh my god, my friends were tortured to death" to "haha, they taking him along and he makes a goofy face" was... odd at best.*nosebleed*
Ah. So I'm regards to the mood changes? Quite frequently. I'd say it's to counterbalance all of the torture porn.
 

Chariot

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Ill stand by my comments from a few weeks ago, there are worse community threads on GAF.
Surely. But that is one of the lesser excuses. Just because something is worse than oneself doesn't make it nessessary to get on that level.

Don't get me wrong, I love lewd. I would post lewd all the time if it were allowed, but I can understand the fear. The point where I am a bit sad is, where the border is. But well, all for the harmony.

Ah. So I'm regards to the mood changes? Quite frequently. I'd say it's to counterbalance all of the torture porn.
Ok, dropped. This show is not for me.
I don't want to watch someone getting waterboarded, followed by Spongebob Squarepants splashing a bucket of water on his neighbour. I already hated that with Brynhildr.
 

Jarmel

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Visual communication is by far the most powerful tool available when teaching art. There are no words that could have been exchanged that would have made up for the invaluable experience of just seeing professional work done first hand.

There's also something to be said about explaining why a certain scene flows better or why other changes were done. Obviously certain things can be communicated through visual changes but words are sometimes needed too.
I don't think that should be regarded as corrections as much as it is Yoshinaris own rendition of the scene, and if it were to have been implemented, would have neglected the impact that carrying a task through to completion has on the learning process.

The documentary made it clear that it was supposed to be Yoshinari's corrections. Chances are somebody screwed up that segment and showed the final gengas instead of pre-corrections like they intended.

Yeah, that surprised me a lot as it seemed a rather "luxurious" way of spending the government's money. :p

Maybe Michiru Ōshima was the one who actually recommended them doing it, as she has lived and worked in Paris for a long time doing music recording at the same studios, and helping in sound post-production in general.

Haha yea I got a kick out of that. I was like, "Can't you do that via Skype?". Seems like a waste but oh well.
 

TUSR

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Surely. But that is one of the lesser excuses. Just because something is worse than oneself doesn't make it nessessary to get on that level.

Don't get me wrong, I love lewd. I would post lewd all the time if it were allowed, but I can understand the fear. The point where I am a bit sad is, where the border is. But well, all for the harmony.

The fear of not being loved.
 

Blusby

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I am still relucant to watch the second episode. Is the thing genuinly good or just hm edgy?

It's good, as you'll see in upcoming episodes it has an entertaining cast, great fights, and now Taku's music.
I also love the usage of Dezaki stills.
 

Caesnd

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There's also something to be said about explaining why a certain scene flows better or why other changes were done. Obviously certain things can be communicated through visual changes but words are sometimes needed too.

Of course words can help at times, but I believe a large majority of any questions that may pop up can be resolved by a quick flip review of the cut. The right thing will look natural.

The documentary made it clear that it was supposed to be Yoshinari's corrections. Chances are somebody screwed up that segment and showed the final gengas instead of pre-corrections like they intended.

I see. It's been a while since I saw the documentary. Yoshinaris corrections definitely have a lot more grace to them. Wish they had kept the carry-through of the motion more clean and simple.
 

mankoto

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Ok, dropped. This show is not for me.
I don't want to watch someone getting waterboarded, followed by Spongebob Squarepants splashing a bucket of water on his neighbour. I already hated that with Brynhildr.

Well the writing is certainly a lot better than Brynhildr if that helps.
 

Superflat

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Visual communication is by far the most powerful tool available when teaching art. There are no words that could have been exchanged that would have made up for the invaluable experience of just seeing professional work done first hand.

The most valuable things I've learned from professors (I was obtaining a bachelors in illustration) was watching them work. Every introduction to a new lesson or technique started with a "shut up and watch me" session for a good half-hour to an hour. After that we could try it for ourselves and ask questions, but nothing helped my work more than seeing it done in front of me.

M3 13

So that's how long it took for someone to snap.

That's a looong time. I followed it up to ep 9 or so and it sort of trailed away from me. Might jump back into it.
 
Blade Dance 01

Of the four currently adapted MF series, how have they stacked up?

Magical Warfare - A complete mess with a weird ending, but the characters were alright
Dragonar Academy - A little too terminology-heavy, but not terrible
No Game No Life - The most well received

So this one is probably the closest to Dragonar in terms of what it's doing, but with far less tentacles. Just replaced with more whips. The show's not throwing terms left and right, and, like Invaders, the main cast mostly consists of newbies. Only Ibuki Kido as Claire Rouge (I played a VN with a heroine named Flarerouge, so this is making me think of that) is the known name here. The premise is nothing special, but for someone who's a little bit of an M, I found the show alright. Not good, not bad, just alright. The devil's in the details, so I'll keep watching to see if it introduces any new twists to the formula.

The only MF series i've looking for is Madan no Ou to Vanadis,and the illustrations of Vanadis is most unfit to the series i've ever seen(the illustrator not even following what author wrote when he draw the characters lol)
So i hope Vanadis anime will change the art style
 

Kansoku

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Seeing the new characters reveal for Smash, it reminded me how good FE:A anime cutscenes are, and that they're CG done good. Everything was so pretty on the reveal and I would love an entire anime done like that.

I mean, just look at this shit:
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Sorry for the stutter, captured with GifCam and it captured the video's stutter.
 

Caesnd

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The most valuable things I've learned from professors (I was obtaining a bachelors in illustration) was watching them work. Every introduction to a new lesson or technique started with a "shut up and watch me" session for a good half-hour to an hour. After that we could try it for ourselves and ask questions, but nothing helped my work more than seeing it done in front of me.

Working with teachers where there is a language barrier is a fascinating experience for this very reason.
 
Mushishi 2 9
Almost done catching up. A typical episode of the show. Strange events that seem good drawn from tragedy. Though
bodily fluids turning into breastmilk, from the baby no less, that kills the mother
is certainly one of the weirder tragedies
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Akame ga Kill! 02

So much of this reminds of Mushibugyō and not in a good way. Between the super generic art style, bland character designs and obnoxious tropes, I'm not sure exactly what has earned this series so much hype and praise from fans? When it's serious, I dig it. When it's not, it's another run of the mill shōnen and not a very good one. I'll stick with it for another episode or two before I decide whether not I should drop this but prospects are bleak.
 
Everybody stop talking about shitty anime. Moar fire emblem characters in super smash announced including lucina and Robin (aka the avatar in awakening) in both male and female form.

LUCINA IS IN SMASH

YES.

Hail Lucina!

Seeing the new characters reveal for Smash, it reminded me how good FE:A anime cutscenes are, and that they're CG done good. Everything was so pretty on the reveal and I would love an entire anime done like that.

I mean, just look at this shit:
iMl9aYOJYwWyh.gif

Sorry for the stutter, captured with GifCam and it captured the video's stutter.

WHERE THE FUCK IS CAPTAIN RAINBOW
 

cajunator

Banned
So much Miyukichi these last few pages, ara ara.

I knowwwwwwww

This thread has been so much better without lewd imho. I don't have to scroll real fast while outside. Well outside of dtl posts which aren't lewd just sexy.

I like to scroll slowly through animegaf, savoring every controversial morsel.

Seeing the new characters reveal for Smash, it reminded me how good FE:A anime cutscenes are, and that they're CG done good. Everything was so pretty on the reveal and I would love an entire anime done like that.

I mean, just look at this shit:
iMl9aYOJYwWyh.gif

Sorry for the stutter, captured with GifCam and it captured the video's stutter.

all the good CG artists work in gaming.
 
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This was really fun. Up there with Barakamon for me. Why didn't I start this last week?

Those two shows are in my opinion the best of the season.

Terror in Resonance is up there as well but I hate all the characters so I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I would.

Nozaki kun is very funny.

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The animations, like Barakamon, greatly add to the characters as well. Figures it s a 4 panel comedy manga though I am kind of disappointed that this means there won't be much plot.
 
Kill la Kill 07


Some ridiculous clubs popping up.

And then there's the kind of club one shouldn't talk about. Fighting the system from within doesn't always work and getting riches can corrupt, but friendship wins in the end.
 

Jex

Member
Making of Little Witch Academia Documentary-

Great write up.
Incredible writeup, man. This part specifically though... I know it happens happens with video game development during crunch time as well. I didn't think it was like that with anime as well. Is it like a cultural thing to stay at work if it's crunch time or something? I remember reading that some people were waking up hours earlier than normal as it helps bring down stress at the workplace or something like that.
Hmm I completely missed this post, but thanks for writing this up. The stuff they have to go through really sucks. It's hard to take in that leaving work at 2 a.m. is considered early.
That's nothing, just listen to this story about the true hell that you get to experience in the anime industry. This is from Miyzaki, going into detail of what it was like to work as a finish inspector on Heidi (1974):
Animation is created by an incredibly large number of people. It is actually completed by all of the people working together and carrying out their assigned jobs.

One of the jobs is the finish inspector. I’ll give you a brief description of what that job entails. First there is colour design. This involved deciding on colors – such a Brown C9 for a character’s brown hair – from among over three hundred hues of color and then writing in red ballpoint pen on all the frames. This is done so that anyone can color in.

The coloring work is all outsourced, so the descriptions must be accurate and clear. Doing this for each frame is the work of the color designer. When the colored cells come back, they are checked for mistakes in coloring and for dirt and scratches. This is the work of the finish inspector. And looking through all these cells is an enormous task. The finish inspector is the chief of tracing and coloring.

My talk today is about a woman who is a finish inspector. I won’t giver he name, but she is a very wonderful women. In fact, I am a fan of hers (as a sidenote. I’ve never seen Miyazaki say that about anyone else).

I first met her during preparations for Heidi (1974 series). We all worked at the same studio. I say studio…it was a prefab building in a parking lot. We first went there in the heat of summer when the air conditioner happened to be broken, so it was about 104f (40C) inside. And in winter, no matter how strong the heater, it was freezing cold due to the gaps in the walls. It was truly a horrific place.

The studio had only recently been set up and Heidi was our first series. We first found her (the finish inspector) asleep under a blanket. Her eyes were bloodshot. I could tell right off that she had stayed up all night and only gotten to sleep earlier that morning.

She was working on a project that used six to seven thousand cels each week, which meant that she had to make color designations for that many pages. She was the only one doing color design and clean-up supervising.
On the last day of the final check she telephones here and there to call in many women to work on clean-up animation.

That was the kind of work she was doing each day. Whenever I entered the room in the morning she would jump up from the couch where she had been sleeping. She would only sleep for two hours a day.

Thinking this was outrageous, I approached the studio head but his response was “There’s no one else that I can trust do this work.”

…This meant that the studio was working on two television series at once. And yet she was the only one doing clean up supervision. She was doing the color designation and farming out the colour for two television series at once.

…She stayed at the company, eating box lunches, instant noodles, and sweets delivered to the office. The only time she went home to her apartment was to do her laundry and come back with a change of clothes…Even while thinking that we should let her have more free time, I found myself asking her to do more and more work because she was someone I could utterly depend on.

…Just as before, she was working all night, sleeping for two hours and always at work the next day. Frankly this was in violation of the Labor Standards Law…and it wasn’t good for her health either. But still, she continued to work.

Part of me feels that no one should work that hard. But part of me wants to have the energy and dedication she has for her work.

…The finish inspector eventually did collapse and was taken to the hospital by ambulance…since being released from the hospital she has continued her work as a finish inspector.
????

They're all CRAZY.
 
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