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cajunator

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Save 'N Quit said:
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I almost feel like quitting this show here and now.

Least Leone provided for some nice scary eyes



And now that she's coming, we'll have plenty of psycho eyes and faces as much as we want.
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Leone is a wonder. she needs to have cat ears more often.

Freezasaurus said:
Chaika 11

Someone tell me
that Fredrika isn't dead... Not at the hands of some shitcunt derpy-derp spider-looking mother fucker. Not like this....
. No words can convey my rage.
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I think youll like how that turns out :D

AmethystEnd said:
Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou (manga) spoke to my soul like no other work ever has.
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Haibane Renmei spoke to me in such a way.
 
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victreeb3l

Member
Akame Ga Kill 2

I liked it. I really dig the slow mo sketchy shots when the characters perform a cool move or when they kill someone. Pretty cool.
 
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survivor

Banned
firehawk12 said:
I don't follow manga too much, but after a long run with Aria I have to imagine Amanchu hasn't hit as big. That Amano had to switch to a quarterly schedule doesn't help I suppose.

I guess time will tell if Shimura's post Wandering Son/Sweet Blue Flowers work will go as long/get anime... I'm sure Aoki will get work after Hidamari Sketch, but her non HidaSketch work to date has been largely ignored (here, admittedly).

But I get a lot of the throwaway anime that gets adapted are the last we'll see of the author of the original work. There's just way too much of the stuff out there, not to mention that there are always new people trying to break in. I don't know if there's the same sense of "auteurship" to support mangaka in the long run as there is in the comics industry.

Although, I suppose Gaiman really just gets away with writing the same stuff over and over again... which is about the same as Oda writing the same story for 20 years. lol
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Looking at Aria, it does seem like Amano didn't hit it as big with Amanchu. There are no hard numbers for Aria's volume sales but in total they sold 4 millions copies while Amanchu individual volumes are selling around 70k which I think is reasonably a successful number for the magazine it's published in.

I agree with you in that manga authors who are mid tier in popularity or work on josei or niche manga magazines will probably try to milk their series if they sort of have any success since their next series will probably have hard time getting successful again. But I think in the case of shounen authors, if they get something big with an anime chances are they will be able to replicate some of that success. FMA -> Silver Spoon, Death Note -> Bakuman and so on.
 
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nintendoman58

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Eureka Seven - 13

All right, I think Dominic may be my favourite character in this show so far. Guy isn't a douche. Dude's done nothing but care about Anemone. Much like Renton does for Eureka. Should be interesting to see how the inevitable fight between them is going to go down.

So the military
appears to be hiding some shady facts about the Corlian or whatever it was. Holland seems to know more about this thing as well, after freaking out about what Renton said he saw in his dream.

Things are definitely getting more interesting now.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
survivor said:
Looking at Aria, it does seem like Amano didn't hit it as big with Amanchu. There are no hard numbers for Aria's volume sales but in total they sold 4 millions copies while Amanchu individual volumes are selling around 70k which I think is reasonably a successful number for the magazine it's published in.

I agree with you in that manga authors who are mid tier in popularity or work on josei or niche manga magazines will probably try to milk their series if they sort of have any success since their next series will probably have hard time getting successful again. But I think in the case of shounen authors, if they get something big with an anime chances are they will be able to replicate some of that success. FMA -> Silver Spoon, Death Note -> Bakuman and so on.
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With the vagaries of IP ownership and deals and whatnot, I assume that the only income that mangaka can count on are takoban sales... so I assume having more volumes just makes more business sense in the long run. Like the person who wrote Sailor Moon, who hasn't really done anything since, but probably makes some kind of income from people checking out the manga.

I don't know much about the yaoi world, but a lot of the yuri manga people seem to work hand to mouth and churn stories to make up for not being able to have hundred chapter books. But a lot of them disappear and give up after a single volume... I think only Takemura Jin and Moringa Milk are the only ones who have had any longevity (based on the stuff available in English at least), and even they feel mostly like grinders who are supported by LGBT communities more than anything else.

Are there guys who just tell short shounen stories over and over again and grind out a living by publishing 6 chapter single tank stories in Shounen Jump? Because that sounds like an impossible way to make a living in Japan.

(Of course, in terms of other artists in my previous post, I totally forgot about Adachi - who survives by writing the same baseball manga over and over again. :p)
 
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fertygo

Member
Ao Haru Ride - 02

Middle high schooler in Japan still playing hide n seek? for real?

This episode have pretty bad dialogue but man I just can't help it, I love this shoujo hamminess and that hugging scene make my heart racing lol

Still among my favorite in this season for some reason.
 
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Gazoinks

Member
Terror In Tokyo 1
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It's Samumenco all over again! I can't handle this!
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Woo, really strong opening episode. They really sold the terrorism aspect, and combined with the bullying and anxiety of Lisa, this whole episode as pretty dark and vaguely unsettling. I was also surprised by how sympathetic the two guys are already. Their character archetypes are fairly typical, but the writing seems willing to move past cliches. Expecting good things going forward!

Oh, good animation also.
 
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survivor

Banned
firehawk12 said:
With the vagaries of IP ownership and deals and whatnot, I assume that the only income that mangaka can count on are takoban sales... so I assume having more volumes just makes more business sense in the long run. Like the person who wrote Sailor Moon, who hasn't really done anything since, but probably makes some kind of income from people checking out the manga.

I don't know much about the yaoi world, but a lot of the yuri manga people seem to work hand to mouth and churn stories to make up for not being able to have hundred chapter books. But a lot of them disappear and give up after a single volume... I think only Takemura Jin and Moringa Milk are the only ones who have had any longevity (based on the stuff available in English at least), and even they feel mostly like grinders who are supported by LGBT communities more than anything else.

Are there guys who just tell short shounen stories over and over again and grind out a living by publishing 6 chapter single tank stories in Shounen Jump? Because that sounds like an impossible way to make a living in Japan.

(Of course, in terms of other artists in my previous post, I totally forgot about Adachi - who survives by writing the same baseball manga over and over again. :p)
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Manga authors generally get income from merchandizing as well though that only applies to very few of them who get huge fanbases from anime.

I don't think there are that many people who just make shounen short stories for Jump and other popular shounen magazines. The competition is way too strong and they probably can't keep on failing by making 1-2 volumes over and over again. There are couple who have 2-3 attempts at series that all failed but I'm not sure how many of them stick with that or just quit. I know over the past searches I have across some shoujo authors who have a lot of 1 volume manga, not sure how they make a living that way.

For the yuri stuff, I assume you mean writers who are able to churn out a lot of 1 volume series? For BL there is Hideyoshico, she has a strong work output. There is also Asumiko Nakamura who has been working for sometime, although she has also branched into other demographics.
 
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dakkumauji

Member
Ao Haru Ride 02

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So shoujo so adsgdfhg good

Glasslip 02

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All that glass porn.

This transferstudentphobia is pretty silly. Like really silly. And now relationship drama too, lol

Free! Eternal Summer 02

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Move over Makoto, you have a serious contender for best husbando

Dog Days' 06

So they somehow summoned a pervy wolf demon king that happens to attack the kingdom with nothing but bathing maidens

Himegoto 02

Super interesting

Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei - Yoku Wakaru Mahouka 04

Now even you will know about the Nine School Games!
 
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fertygo

Member
survivor said:
Manga authors generally get income from merchandizing as well though that only applies to very few of them who get huge fanbases from anime.

I don't think there are that many people who just make short stories shounen stores for Jump and other popular shounen magazines.
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I'm sure who he means is Togashi, a man that gonna put up 10 chapter or so before gone for hiatus again.

He can survive with that since the book is million seller.
 
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Quasar

Member
survivor said:
Manga authors generally get income from merchandizing as well though that only applies to very few of them who get huge fanbases from anime.
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Not that it would be much more than cents per chapter/episode but I wonder how money flows back from Crunchyroll. Would a Manga author really see any of it, or is simply being absorbed by Japanese publishers?
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
survivor said:
Manga authors generally get income from merchandizing as well though that only applies to very few of them who get huge fanbases from anime.

I don't think there are that many people who just make short stories shounen stores for Jump and other popular shounen magazines. The competition is way too strong and they probably can't keep on failing by making 1-2 volumes over and over again. There are couple who have 2-3 attempts at series that all failed but I'm not sure how many of them stick with that or just quit. I know over the past searches I have across some shoujo authors who have a lot of 1 volume manga, not sure how they make a living that way.
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I had this conversation with Mandoric and apparently it's all very secretive, but the stuff we do know is that only the really popular dudes get points off of any merch or the anime (like Oda and the other shounen people). Most people seem to own their IP (which is why they are able to switch magazine/light novel publishers) but only make money off of direct sales of tanks. It seems like a worse way to earn a living than being an anime artist, because you are essentially a freelancer for life...

Which, I think, incentivizes keeping Luffy looking for a One PIece for as long as Oda can hold a pencil to draw. Although he's probably in a Rowling-esque position (well, orders of magnitude less wealthy) compared to most other mangaka.

For the yuri stuff, I assume you mean writers who are able to churn out a lot of 1 volume series? For BL there is Hideyoshico, she has a strong work output. There is also Asumiko Nakamura who has been working for sometime, although she has also branched into other demographics.
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Moringa has like a 5 volume series, but the rest of her stuff in single volume.
Takemiya is basically a grinder who does like 6-12 chapter runs in that yuri mag over and over again. She seems to be the most prolific one that I've come across anyway. There's a double edged sword with a niche, because they probably can't sustain a long story (unless you are Shimura) but you can probably depend on a devoted fanbase (about 4k people follow her on twitter, if that means anything). But it's probably about the same as being an indie comic artist in America.
 
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Lurky

Member
Freezasaurus said:
Whoa, dude.... Maybe there are like,
hundreds of them out there, like sleeper Chaikas, then when one of them dies, another one activates to replace her
. Maybe
everyone is Chaika!
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I think what happens is
every girl has the potential to become Chaika but in order to do so you must experience some kind of trauma. There's probably no limit to the amount of Chaikas that can exist at one time.
 
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Broank

Member
Terror In Tokyo

Man that was good. REALLY FUCKING GOOD! Engaging characters, better then movie animation, perfect music, stylish direction, entertaining and intriguing story, appealing character and world designs, just hits on all cylinders.

Seems like it has a lot more Watanabe's classic stuff. Not that I didn't like Space Dandy, Baby Blue or Kids on the Slope but this seems to have more of his hand in it that I have been waiting for since Champloo.

Really can't wait for episode 2
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
^
Is HapCha better or worse than Smile? Really miss having a fun group dynamic around.
(Well, really, I miss Sanny and Happy really...)
 
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survivor

Banned
firehawk12 said:
I had this conversation with Mandoric and apparently it's all very secretive, but the stuff we do know is that only the really popular dudes get points off of any merch or the anime (like Oda and the other shounen people). Most people seem to own their IP (which is why they are able to switch magazine/light novel publishers) but only make money off of direct sales of tanks. It seems like a worse way to earn a living than being an anime artist, because you are essentially a freelancer for life...

Which, I think, incentivizes keeping Luffy looking for a One PIece for as long as Oda can hold a pencil to draw. Although he's probably in a Rowling-esque position (well, orders of magnitude less wealthy) compared to most other mangaka.
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Why bother find the one piece when you can just keep adding new islands to explore at an extremely slow pace? This reminds me of the Attack on Titan saying he plans to end the manga in 20 volumes. Maybe he will, but I somehow doubt it. We are talking about the biggest thing to come out of Japan in a long time with 2 spinoff manga series, upcoming live action film, anime films and probably another season at one point. No way he will end the series in just 6 more volumes.

Moringa has like a 5 volume series, but the rest of her stuff in single volume.
Takemiya is basically a grinder who does like 6-12 chapter runs in that yuri mag over and over again. She seems to be the most prolific one that I've come across anyway. There's a double edged sword with a niche, because they probably can't sustain a long story (unless you are Shimura) but you can probably depend on a devoted fanbase (about 4k people follow her on twitter, if that means anything). But it's probably about the same as being an indie comic artist in America.
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Shimura only has 7k followers. She is barely more popular than a niche yuri artist :(
 
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astrogamer

Member
Re Hamatora 2
So Art actual does have a minimum.
Also trying save Minimum Holders by curing them of their minimum
. Kind of hitting a climax a little early
 
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Vylash

Member
firehawk12 said:
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Is HapCha better or worse than Smile? Really miss having a fun group dynamic around.
(Well, really, I miss Sanny and Happy really...)
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I'd put them on equal ground, they're both very very good, if you were as addicted to Smile as I was then pick up HapCha ASAP
 
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cajunator

Banned
AmethystEnd said:
I still need to watch that but I refused to let myself do it until I owned the original box. Haven't had money to buy it in the last couple years though, since I went back for a 2nd degree.
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worth every cent. And then buying it again.

Freezasaurus said:
Chaika 12 [END]





Okay, okay.... You guys were right.... That was hilarious. XD

As for the show itself, it was surprisingly enjoyable. They picked as good a place to stop as any. Glad there's a season 2 coming soon.
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Freezasaurus said:
Yeah, that was great
and soooooooooo cute!
Also, is Vivi
another Chaika?
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Yup so cute! Great ending I felt. And yes I do think she did.
We will find out next season!
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
survivor said:
Why bother find the one piece when you can just keep adding new islands to explore at an extremely slow pace? This reminds me of the Attack on Titan saying he plans to end the manga in 20 volumes. Maybe he will, but I somehow doubt it. We are talking about the biggest thing to come out of Japan in a long time with 2 spinoff manga series, upcoming live action film, anime films and probably another season at one point. No way he will end the series in just 6 more volumes.
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What incentive does he have to end it?
It's like Robert Kirkman. The one reason why I don't give a shit about Walking Dead is that he is perfectly happy to string it along for as long as people are buying the book. It's a very mercantile and commercial way to look at art, but I can't go on board with a series with no plan... because we know that it ends up in a Church on a planet people call Earth where the girls turn into space angels.

Shimura only has 7k followers. She is barely more popular than a niche yuri artist :(
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After Aoi Hana, I feel like Takemiya should have more followers than Shimura. :p lol

CureVylash said:
I'd put them on equal ground, they're both very very good, if you were as addicted to Smile as I was then pick up HapCha ASAP
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I might go back, but it's already so far ahead... :(
 
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survivor

Banned
firehawk12 said:
What incentive does he have to end it?
It's like Robert Kirkman. The one reason why I don't give a shit about Walking Dead is that he is perfectly happy to string it along for as long as people are buying the book. It's a very mercantile and commercial way to look at art, but I can't go on board with a series with no plan... because we know that it ends up in a Church on a planet people call Earth where the girls turn into space angels.
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I can't believe I wasted my time reading around 80 issues of Walking Dead. I had to stop after realizing the story isn't going anywhere and he is just gonna keep replacing the cast to keep it "fresh".

After Aoi Hana, I feel like Takemiya should have more followers than Shimura. :p lol
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I'm sure her new series will win you over lol
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
survivor said:
I can't believe I wasted my time reading around 80 issues of Walking Dead. I had to stop after realizing the story isn't going anywhere and he is just gonna keep replacing the cast to keep it "fresh".
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It's the Marvel/DC mentality. It makes perfect financial sense, but I can't stand it in serialized fiction because I know none of it matters until the final issue.
I'm sure her new series will win you over lol
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The new one sounds a little bit like Love my Life and Ohana Holoholo... I hope it gets picked up somewhere.
 
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striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
sabagebu 2
Still stupid. i like it.. The animation quality though....

Aldnoah Zero 2
Protag have the personality of a brick wall. But, at least this one have cheesy villain.

Zankyou no Terror
It's captivating and have a very nice coreography. I like the mistery surrounding 9 and 12.
 
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Vylash

Member
Glasslip Episode 01

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So uh...what? I thought this was about glass blowing but it's about chickens? And random drama already for some reason,I'll keep watching but this show needs to get more focused.
 
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MikeHattsu

Member
AmethystEnd said:
That's an odd way to spell Minori.

Seriously, the best thing about Toradora for me was some of the music that came out of it.

One of Minori's character image songs has Yui Horie going "WA-HA-HA" in the chorus and I die from cuteness overload every time.
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Minorin is the best!
There might be voice bias in this post...

What song is that?


AmethystEnd said:
I loved Orange (2nd ED). Especially the -citrus mix- that was in the character image albums.
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I like the 1st ED.


Clov said:
Well, it's the the only recent one that wasn't streamed. There's a couple other KyoAni shows, like Nichijou, that don't have anyone releasing them on home video in North America.
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Nichijou was supposed to be released though, but then Bandai folded.
 
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