AmethystEnd
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Oh god I can't stop clicking. WHY DID YOU SHOW THIS TO ME.
phoenix296
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Enjoy the Netflix Original programming!
Oh, of course I won't tell Mr. Nagahama what to do. I don't think he likes me anyway.
I can see that he thought about it, but I still don't like the look of it and think that an actual live action would've been better.
Time to step up your game. Now give us the different uguu sounds that we always wanted!
SliceSabre
Banned
I hate you so much. Ugggggggghhhhh.
Oh come on man, surely you can appreciate this unique style:
Ano Natsu de Matteru 1-6: Really digging this so far, cool cast, nice ED, and relaxin' atmosphere.
SliceSabre
Banned
Majimoji Rurumo - 03
Senpai is too oblivious to notice you. But its ok, he will one day. Maybe.
Senpai is too oblivious to notice you. But its ok, he will one day. Maybe.
Toradora 22-23
Man those are some somber episodes.
They've done a great job at making the whole cast likable and hmmm human, so to speak. No matter what ending they'll go for and who'll eventually win, I'll feel sad for the rest of characters who didn't get what they desired.
Man those are some somber episodes.
Minorin x Ryuji just went down the drain seemingly.
Ryuji should just clone himself to make every member of his harem happy.
Femmeworth
Banned
It's not a big pet peeve of mine or anything. In the context of something aimed primarily at an audience of straight men, flamboyant sexual imagery of a man is often used to play off of homophobia and make that audience uncomfortable and/or laugh. Not to say that such an effect can't be potentially used for a good purpose but that is usually not the case. It's a casual reinforcement that such displays of masculine sexuality is the domain of gay men or otherwise not normal.
Edit: Connection goofed up. Made a few edits.
God, I love these exploits.Oh come on man, surely you can appreciate this unique style:
Fair enough.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yet the teacher looks like he's constantly sexually harassing Ryuko, which brings on a whole other set of problems, but I really don't think it's trying to play off homosexuality for laughs there.
SliceSabre
Banned
You'd have a point if he wasn't doing it to everyone he meets.
Is Mako's mother sexually harassing him when she suddenly took GREAT interest in his antics in the later episodes when he started doing that?
DTR! It's DTR!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I don't think homosexuality is the problem that femmesworth has with Mikitsugu and cahracters like him. But speaking of homosexual characters, the cliche representation of them is painful. If they're not drag queens, they at least want to hump any man.
Of course there are exceptions, but I think general view of homosexuals is pretty... tainted.
Of course there are exceptions, but I think general view of homosexuals is pretty... tainted.
The most common homosexual character I see in anime is the "muscle-bound/overweight man in drag" which is also extremely insulting for trans people of course. Second is the effeminate pervert such as Leeron from TTGL. After that...I can't really say because there are so few. I don't think there's ever been a male gay or bi character I've been totally happy with.
I really liked Hato in Genshiken Nidaime. The whole show was really about him struggling with his sexual identity and the acceptance of others of his crossdressing.
Kuranosuke from Princess Jellyfish was pretty likable too and not in the usual clichee's, he wasn't homosexual, just a crossdresser, but I think that is deviant enough to be relevant for this topic.
Femmeworth
Banned
Knights of Sidonia Ep. 1
Ugh, I don't know if I can stomach a whole series with this style of animation. The low frame rate seriously gives me a headache. It's like a video game running on inadequate hardware. The writing certainly isn't encouraging me to continue. Not offensively bad but kind of laughable, with some really awkward exposition and poor pacing. The whole bit with the transgender character was a head scratcher and naturally I'm worried where they are going with it. (I saw some of firehawk's comments on it.)
Ugh, I don't know if I can stomach a whole series with this style of animation. The low frame rate seriously gives me a headache. It's like a video game running on inadequate hardware. The writing certainly isn't encouraging me to continue. Not offensively bad but kind of laughable, with some really awkward exposition and poor pacing. The whole bit with the transgender character was a head scratcher and naturally I'm worried where they are going with it. (I saw some of firehawk's comments on it.)
That's good, I was kind of worried. Though my opinion might differ to a degree when I get around to watching it.
Not even Rider from Fate/Zero?
Kanji is camp gay, but I think the offical line is that it's for the player to decide what's his sexuality is. And honestly I think he has good chemistry with
Naoto.
And I can't remember Rider being homosexual. Then again, the king just do as he pleases, so why not.
Femmeworth
Banned
Subtext really doesn't count. :|
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Masumi from nodame cantabile was essentially a flamboyant gay man acting as comic relief, but I thought that he turned into a pretty cool character by the end.
Frozenprince
Banned
The culture of Japan as a whole means we'll very, very rarely see a normal, everyday character that just so happens to be gay. The sexuality of the token homosexual character will almost always be his or her defining trait. They'll never have a romantic relationship that's not played for comedic value, they'll always be seen as an outsider or a pervert, and they almost always will bear the brunt of abuse from all the other characters their interact with.
It's not going to change any time soon until Japanese culture regarding homosexuality in it's pop culture changes. But then again, really, it's not that much different than how cartoons and sitcoms portray homosexuality in America and the rest of the world, as well. It's a HUGE problem in entertainment.
It's not going to change any time soon until Japanese culture regarding homosexuality in it's pop culture changes. But then again, really, it's not that much different than how cartoons and sitcoms portray homosexuality in America and the rest of the world, as well. It's a HUGE problem in entertainment.
Femmeworth
Banned
It's been years but I thought they made his gender ambiguous (at first anyway) and had a few gags with that.
While I agree with you on the grand scheme, I think that Genshiken Nidaime handled it acceptable.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Nah, he had some drag queen characteristics but I don't think he has ever been identified as anything but male.
I'm not sure I really believe that. I think there quite a bit of manga where thats not true. Even in anime there's a fair amount of same sex relationships that aren't played that way.
Admittedly the treatment of the ladies is very different from the guys in that respect.
Should we say male homosexual relationship? As so often lesbians have the better end of the stick, compared to homosexual men. There is something about dicks that disturbs people.
He isn't really canocally homosexual. It's a valid interpretation, but that's reaching. He is - for me at least- just a bro.
Haven't watched Fate/Zero.
The problem with yuri is that I feel it's usually written and animated to titillate straight male viewers instead of showing a lesbian romance. I'm sure that's not always the case but that's the feeling I get when I usually see those characters.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I wouldn't say that western works have evolved to the point where sexuality is incidental or that the default isn't straight cis-gendered.
I'm okay with the way Aku no Hana looks in its anime form, but I don't think it would even be able to translate the manga's last chapter very well. I guess that'll never be an issue though.
I don't think that's necessarily true with BL becoming a profitable and more mainstream thing. While the audience is primarily women, it provides representations that are better than simple joke characters. I'm still usually not 100% okay with the representations but they're generally positive.
Frozenprince
Banned
I'm still not sure if the BL genre will actually finally start gaining some form of legitimacy or not. Yeah the VN's are selling better but there've been very few straight up positive representations of the genre in mainstream anime and manga. But, this is all just personal opinion stemming from 30 hours on no sleep, and I tried to stress the almost part because it's the norm but it's not without it's exceptions, of course. Plus the BL genre itself has some issues with it's representation of sexuality but, it's at least making an attempt and usually does pretty well at being diverse.
So with that I think I'll start watching a new series. Not sure what though. Maybe a sports anime, always love those.
So with that I think I'll start watching a new series. Not sure what though. Maybe a sports anime, always love those.
In the UK we currently have an insurance ad fronted by meercats that gives off vibes that they are indeed a gay couple but they never ever say anything about it. In does seem that we are slowly getting to the point where we can just have a homosexual relationship on screen without really making a song and dance about it, even if we have to start with meercats with silly accents.
that chapter of Nozaki-kun was amazing, hope it gets animated
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's not that compare the meerkats ad is it? Never got that vibe from it, but I guess I didn't see the one where there's a couple.
Yes and they now have a baby. Yeah, I know they have a whole family of meercats for the free toy when you signup incentive but you never see them in the ads, so they honestly come off as a couple. Alexander even says to Sergei at the end of their latest ad, about the baby, "he take after your side of the family" which is the kind of thing only parents would say about their child (I realise this brings up the questions of how they had a child, but I won't get into that).
Like I said, if they are a couple they don't make a big deal about it which is how gay relationships should be treated in the future. They should just be there.
NaDannMaGoGo
Member
Hidamari Sketch - 01
Eh... meh. This episode did pretty much nothing for me. Maybe I'm just resistant to their cute wide-face wiles but it was also simply boring.
Does this pick up at some point or is it going to be pretty much the same? In the latter case I'm probably not gonna keep going.
Eh... meh. This episode did pretty much nothing for me. Maybe I'm just resistant to their cute wide-face wiles but it was also simply boring.
Does this pick up at some point or is it going to be pretty much the same? In the latter case I'm probably not gonna keep going.
MikeHattsu
Member
I thought all of it was good, but others say it gets much better in S2.
AmethystEnd
Member
If you don't like it by the 2nd or 3rd episode, let it go. The quality is what improves from season 2 and onward, but the humor and atmosphere stay pretty much the same.
Femmeworth
Banned
Knights of Sidonia Ep. 2
Some really bad writing.
I took some Tylenol so at least the animation didn't hurt so much this time. The first battle was pretty underwhelming and hard to follow. So far this is mediocre at best, if I'm being generous.
Some really bad writing.
I can't believe they introduced and tried to flesh out a character minutes before killing them off.
AmethystEnd
Member
The spoilered part is when I knew I wouldn't be able to handle it. Dropped the anime at that point but read a bit more of the manga after that and noped the fuck out again.
Ah the Bleach method of storytelling.
NaDannMaGoGo
Member
Alright thank for the replies.I'll probably go for the 3 episode rule then and make my decision.
Interesting that I just see Femmeworth take a go at Sidonia, am about to check that out too.
Interesting that I just see Femmeworth take a go at Sidonia, am about to check that out too.
Sorry, I didn't want to come as confrontational as I did. It is just that, as this project was green-lighted as an animation series, arguing about any other kind of adaptation is just an afterthought made in spite on this work.
The strangeness is something that was wanted, and the kind of baggage and lessons earned from fusing these methods also brings experience well worth it in the future. An artist I appreciate a lot as is Yu Ueda (a.k.a. missacula) maybe expresses this better and from a better positioned background and perspective (in great part due to his multidisciplinary excellence, and because of that understands having differing options available):
http://raindropmoment.com/anime-series-made-entirely-with-roto-scoping-is-on-air/Yuueda said:
Patlabor: The TV Series Episode 1
Indeed, I have selected the TV Continuity to begin the watching of the Patlabor franchise. Anyway, this was a pretty standard introduction episode getting us acquainted with this world, setting, cast and the insanity that is Izumi Not really much more to say really.
Indeed, I have selected the TV Continuity to begin the watching of the Patlabor franchise. Anyway, this was a pretty standard introduction episode getting us acquainted with this world, setting, cast and the insanity that is Izumi Not really much more to say really.
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