It has nothing to do with your opinion on shows, it has to do with bringing in irrelevant non sequitur arguments. Nobody gives a crap what 62k people on MAL think about a show. Saying a bunch of people liked something is not an argument. No one is going to say "oh, well, MAL liked it, I guess I was wrong!" Nobody cares what people who are never going to post in this thread and we're never going to interact with, whose only credentials are being enough of a weeb* to rate all the anime they've seen on an online database, think about any particular anime. If you like an anime you should have enough confidence in your opinions to argue for it on that basis instead of hiding behind argumentum ad populum.
*that shocked gasp you hear is MAL admins affronted by my slur
you do realize that my point isn't that a bunch of people liked it so you must be wrong (and I was never arguing such a thing), but instead that there is a case of a bunch of people liking it so it's possible views outside of this thread can vastly differ? (and oh hey I am at least a nobody because I care at least a little
) The referring to MAL wasn't because this thread's thoughts on the show were wrong, but that there are plenty of other thoughts on the show out there and that it was possible that they were checking it out because they were interested and other people thought it was decent despite the reception it is getting in this thread. It wasn't saying you guys are wrong, MAL is right but that it is quite possible that people can enjoy the show... in fact here is a listing of 62,000 people who on average enjoyed the show quite a bit instead of the 15 vocal members here. Now if the people reading your comments in this thread have tastes similar towards yours then obviously they should listen to you guys, but holy crap you guys are throwing it under the bus like it's freaken mars of destruction (which honestly isn't that bad if you get some good riffing going on
)... I can understand not liking gosick but most of you guys seem to come off like it's one of the worst shows in existence. Mal is a completely valid non irrelevant source of data that gives more insight then your single vocal opinion
. In no case ever will I feel that my opinion is correct and yours is wrong, but alas in general it feels like just because I am willing to look at information from outside of this thread that my opinion is completely and utterly rendered useless :/ (except for by cajunator, they seem pretty open minded
... note: there are others, cajunator is just the only one that actively takes the time to respond and defend the fact that people can have different opinions on stuff
)
I would never blindly follow ratings for anything (mal/metacritic ect) but that doesn't mean that there isn't relevant and interesting data to be taken from such sites (especially if you take the time to read the reviews and find people that have similar tastes to yourself... such as what people do in this thread when they find others in this thread that have similar tastes.). For example Halo 3 is well rated on Metacritic... I would never personally recommend it to anyone, in fact it's my most disappointing game from last gen and in general I hate the game. That doesn't make the metacritic for the game useless though, people's opinions differ quite a bit, and in general the metacritic numbers would be closer to the average view of the game across gamers then my personal views of Halo 3 (thus if someone asked me for a first person space shooter that they could enjoy I would still likely recommend halo 3 because in general your average space shooter fan will like halo 3... I vastly preferred perfect dark zero despite its horrible bugs
). At no point would I say I am wrong because of metacritic, nor would I say you are right because of metacritic if you liked the game, but again it's quite a bit of data and something that should be taken into account when looking into stuff. To just throw away readily available data to me and seemingly be unwilling to even look at it because it's a popular opinion instead of the general thoughts of this single thread is just silly to me... that is unless I missed the part where you drive anyone out of this thread that doesn't share your opinions...(don't worry I don't plan on going anywhere any time soon
) then it makes perfect since because then if everyone is on the same page then obviously the thoughts of this thread are vastly superior
as for the last bit
If you like an anime you should have enough confidence in your opinions to argue for it on that basis instead of hiding behind argumentum ad populum.
why in the heck would I want to take the time to defend my thoughts on a show beyond the fact that I liked it when I know there are at least five people who have talked about how horrible the show is (and in general have just said stuff along the lines of it's terrible, or I couldn't get through the first episode without going into detail as to way) and are likely ready to try to pick apart anything I say as their views and tastes differ from my own
I am never going to convince you guys are wrong and that you should give the show another chance... just like you would never be able to convince me that my thoughts on the show is wrong and that it is actually terrible
Anyways, to sum up everything, I don't get why you would feel that thoughts on anime outside of this thread are pointless just because you won't interact with them directly (there is plenty of good information to be found outside of this thread), and in general gosick is a decent show that I won't bother to go into details about because of fear of being picked apart by rabid gosick haters that have seemed to appear with people watching gosick