I do think the choreography in the dance numbers was a bit lacking.
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I do think the choreography in the dance numbers was a bit lacking.
ZachDeKoromaru
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Keep it to "Zac" so I'm not wondering why everyone's angry at me!
I'm on Team Waka X Seo
I know yet here we are.
AquaWateria
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The poll is right on the spot. Hori x Kashima best couple.
Oddly enough I was wondering about something similar the other day. That and wondering if another kind of "best of" list/vote type thing would be appropriate or whether the older ones would suffice.
I'll admit the one aspect I always feel completely lost on is staff titles and what they actually mean they get involved with in the production of a title.
Whenever someone posts a staff list of a new series, beyond director and studio, I'm never entirely sure whether the others names are causes for joy or not.
Even there though there's still an element of stagnation.
Fantasy worlds remain gripped in either medieval or feudal japan era with various preset ideas that persist in a similar way to their gaming counterparts like elves being lithe and beautiful and generally either master swordsmen or archers.
Sci-fi is even more limited at times. Dystopian futuristic worlds a plenty.
Then there's the merging of the fantasy and sci-fi worlds into a everyday situations such as suddenly having modern style idols appearing for reasons or main characters being described as NEETs despite the term being a modern turn of phrase.
When did Inferno Cop get a comic?
Oh God dammit I was going to make this exact joke.
Speaking of the Steins;Gate Blu-ray release, it's only $31 on Amazon right now, so anyone that wants it should totally consider grabbing it while it's cheap. That box set includes all 24 episodes as well as the OVA, so that's pretty nice.
Also, first time posting in AnimeGAF, hey dudes. I'm currently watching through Future Diary, it's pretty alright so far. Not a huge fan of the protagonist, in fact, I can't really say I like any of the characters thus far, but at least they keep it somewhat interesting with the suspense.
(Although the cliffhangers at the end of almost EVERY episode is getting kind of annoying)
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I wonder if DTL would be mad about this gross misappropriation of yaoi!
I don't think Oshii was necessarily just talking about fantasy or sci-fi settings.
It is more than just coming up with exotic scenery. The people populating and interacting with their environment and each other, as well as the way the mood and themes of a work being interwoven into its fabric are equally vital elements of world creation.
I think that when Oshii talks about world creation, what he implies is actually universe creation. Examples of this being Gundam or, regarding Oshii himself, Patlabor.
It is more than just coming up with exotic scenery. The people populating and interacting with their environment and each other, as well as the way the mood and themes of a work being interwoven into its fabric are equally vital elements of world creation.
I think that when Oshii talks about world creation, what he implies is actually universe creation. Examples of this being Gundam or, regarding Oshii himself, Patlabor.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, although it's source material in the same way that Kaze Tachinu, the story about the girl being sick, inspired Miyzaki's film version of Kaze Tachinu... inasmuch as it only provides a base. But there is a psychedelic look at the future, for sure.The Congress.
Thanks for the recommendation from the other day, unknown GAF-user. I liked the film, pretty good. Though my favorite parts where the live-action ones.
Somehow it all makes a bit more sense at the end in the credits. I just said "ahh! that explains it" when I read it was based on a Stanisław Lem story.Yep, it's that type of story, that seems to have been written in the age of LSD-fueled scifi writers, and that in fact because mind-altering drugs were a new technology when it was written, sometimes the drugs themselves appeared as an important part in the plot, or the idea that future society would be regulated or controlled with hallucinogens, allowing the typical from utopia to dystopia.
I think this is the part of the film that's supposed to remind us that we're watching a film. At that point, maybe nothing is real and there's no point in existence (in the context of the film or in the context of the person watching the film) at all.
lol
Admiral Woofington
Member
I don't know what he'd think, at this point I think he'd enjoy the show more if characters were getting tortured.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
More backstory, more characters, and more mysteries. Looks like stuff is gonna go down in the next episode.
Jex
Member
To illustrate what I was talking about earlier, here's a draft of the kind of post I'm putting together. What I'd really like is links to any great reviews or comments about shows from Gaffers, or any threads of resources that I've missed. Call out great reviews and comments written by Gaffers that I've forgotten about, lets try and showcase some of the best from the thread (e.g. someone get me the history of AnimeGAF posts please!)
Online Resources
GAF's very own anime recommendation threads!
So you're probably wondering: what anime should I watch? We aim to point you in the right direction with these general threads but if you ever want specific recommendations tailored to your personal prefereneces just ask away in the thread.
NeoGAF Top Anime List --RESULTS-- - While this poll is from 2007 this is still a damn fine list, especially the top 20.
The retro, classic, nostalgic, unmissable anime list thread - A great resource for those looking for classic anime. Titles covered here range from the 60's to the early 90's.
Lesser known Anime from the 2000's: Because they still make great anime - For those who haven't watched that much anime you may wish to start you journey elsewhere as this thread largely covers titles non-mainstream titles that haven't received enough attention.
The Metalist - A giant and unwieldy list of lists. I can't vouch that all, or any, of the threads listed here contain any useful information whatsoever!
NeoGAF Anime of the Year Lists - Because popularity matters
While popularity isn't a guarantor of quality, it's certainly a useful indicator. These threads aren't worth reading simply to see what anime ranked where, but to read the thoughtful reviews written by Gaffers.
2010
2011
2012
2013
Sakuga - Resources that focus on the art of animation (sakuga)
List of Sakuga Anime - Self explanatory. Remember, the focus here is on the quality of the animation, not necessarily the story.
Sakuga: The Animation of Anime Panel - A 16 part series of videos that serves as an introduction to the concept of Sakuga. This involves a general overview of the subject, an overview of different styles a detailed look at specific animators. A must watch for anyone interested in animation.
Reviews of anime from Gaffers
Patlabor by Jexhius
Giant Robo - by Jexhius
Anime Blogs
There's a million and one anime blogs on the internet, but most of them aren't worth your time. Here's a snapshot of blogs that you should check out.
Anipages - Easily the best blog for those looking for discussion about the actual art of animation. The author of this blog, Ben Ettinger, has a such a comprehensive knowledge of the field that can generally recognise who animated a scene simply by watching it.
anime year by year - A rather ambition project by ex-gaffer Tamerlane. To use his own words: "This blog is a history of anime, year by year, combining historical background and aesthetic interpretation. There will be a post for each year discussing the merits of specific anime as well as general trends of the industry in depth. This is a constant work in progress, meaning old posts will still be updated as I watch new shows, learn new pieces of contextual info, and change my mind on shows I’ve already seen."
Golden Ani-Versary 1963-2012 - Another year by year history of anime, except that in this case each year is written up by a different writer. As you'd imagine, this means that the quality of the content here is fairly uneven. It's still useful in so much as it gives a general introduction to what came out in a given year and why it mattered.
The Business of Making Anime
Posts and features which focus on how anime is made.
The anime production line - A really great post by Ben Ettinger which gives an overview of how an anime is actually produced.
The Anime Economy - A series of ANN features about the business reality of producing and distributing an anime.
Anime Sales - What sales numbers for DVD/BD's actually mean in terms of whether a show has succeeded or failed.
Generic Anime Resources
Anichart - See when the next episode of a show will air in Japan.
Catsuka - A French language animation resource.
ANN - The most well known English language anime resource. While their coverage is truly extensive the quality of their reviews is questionable and their encyclopaedia is not always accurate.
Anime List/User Review Sites
MyAnimeList
Hummingbird
Podcasts
Bravo Whiskey Cast - Featuring AnimeGAF's own firehawk12!
Anime World Order - While this isn't updated particularly regular it has a great back catalogue of shows, especially for older anime.
Aya Suzuki Interview - The Pegbar and Grill podcast (a podcast that focuses on interviewing people who work in animation) where they talk to Aya Suzuki, a English/Japanese animator who worked on The Illusionist, Wolf's Children, The Dream Machine and The Wind Rises, among other things. This is probably one of the more informative interviews I've had on what it's like to work in the anime industry as it covers stuff like working hours, pay, working conditions, work flow, staffing, skill expectations etc etc.
Books
General anime textbooks
The Anime Encyclopaedia (2001) by Helen McCarthy and Jonathan Clements.
One of the most comprehensive and well researched English language sources for the medium of anime. As the title suggests, this isn't a specific resources for any one but it's great in terms of the sheer depth of content present within.
Anime A History (2013) by Jonathan Clements
Easily the most impressive English language book on anime that I have ever read. This is an extremely well researched treatise on the history of the medium not just in terms of what shows came out but what went on in terms of the business of making anime. It's certainly academic in nature and therefore probably not interest to the casual fan but for those who really want to learn more how anime came to be this is the book too read.
Schoolgirl Milky Crisis (2009) by Jonathan Clements
This is essentially of collection of writings by Jonathan Clements. If you like Clements' writing this is probably for you.
Anime from Akira to Howl's Moving Castle: Experiencing Contemporary Japanese Animation (2005) by Susan J. Napier
A slightly controversial book that attempts to subject various titles to the same kind of theoretical dissection that you can see in literary and film criticism. How successful the text is an open question but it's an interesting endeavour nevertheless.
Director Specific Texts
Starting Point 1979-1996 (1996) by Hayo Miyazaki
A series of essays written by the greatest anime director of all time. For those looking to understand this legendary figure where better to turn than his own words?
Hayo Miyazaki Master of Japanese Animation (2002) by Helen McCarthy
Still, if you actually want to read a book about Miyazaki's films this is the one to get. Unfortunately it only goes up too Princess Mononoke but it's still a good read.
Stray Dog of Anime The Films of Mamoru Oshii (2004) by Brian Ruh
An in-depth study of one of amine's most famous directors. It does what it says on the tin and so I recommend that only Oshii fan give this book a whirl.
Online Resources
GAF's very own anime recommendation threads!
So you're probably wondering: what anime should I watch? We aim to point you in the right direction with these general threads but if you ever want specific recommendations tailored to your personal prefereneces just ask away in the thread.
NeoGAF Top Anime List --RESULTS-- - While this poll is from 2007 this is still a damn fine list, especially the top 20.
The retro, classic, nostalgic, unmissable anime list thread - A great resource for those looking for classic anime. Titles covered here range from the 60's to the early 90's.
Lesser known Anime from the 2000's: Because they still make great anime - For those who haven't watched that much anime you may wish to start you journey elsewhere as this thread largely covers titles non-mainstream titles that haven't received enough attention.
The Metalist - A giant and unwieldy list of lists. I can't vouch that all, or any, of the threads listed here contain any useful information whatsoever!
NeoGAF Anime of the Year Lists - Because popularity matters
While popularity isn't a guarantor of quality, it's certainly a useful indicator. These threads aren't worth reading simply to see what anime ranked where, but to read the thoughtful reviews written by Gaffers.
2010
2011
2012
2013
Sakuga - Resources that focus on the art of animation (sakuga)
List of Sakuga Anime - Self explanatory. Remember, the focus here is on the quality of the animation, not necessarily the story.
Sakuga: The Animation of Anime Panel - A 16 part series of videos that serves as an introduction to the concept of Sakuga. This involves a general overview of the subject, an overview of different styles a detailed look at specific animators. A must watch for anyone interested in animation.
Reviews of anime from Gaffers
Patlabor by Jexhius
Giant Robo - by Jexhius
Anime Blogs
There's a million and one anime blogs on the internet, but most of them aren't worth your time. Here's a snapshot of blogs that you should check out.
Anipages - Easily the best blog for those looking for discussion about the actual art of animation. The author of this blog, Ben Ettinger, has a such a comprehensive knowledge of the field that can generally recognise who animated a scene simply by watching it.
anime year by year - A rather ambition project by ex-gaffer Tamerlane. To use his own words: "This blog is a history of anime, year by year, combining historical background and aesthetic interpretation. There will be a post for each year discussing the merits of specific anime as well as general trends of the industry in depth. This is a constant work in progress, meaning old posts will still be updated as I watch new shows, learn new pieces of contextual info, and change my mind on shows I’ve already seen."
Golden Ani-Versary 1963-2012 - Another year by year history of anime, except that in this case each year is written up by a different writer. As you'd imagine, this means that the quality of the content here is fairly uneven. It's still useful in so much as it gives a general introduction to what came out in a given year and why it mattered.
The Business of Making Anime
Posts and features which focus on how anime is made.
The anime production line - A really great post by Ben Ettinger which gives an overview of how an anime is actually produced.
The Anime Economy - A series of ANN features about the business reality of producing and distributing an anime.
Anime Sales - What sales numbers for DVD/BD's actually mean in terms of whether a show has succeeded or failed.
Generic Anime Resources
Anichart - See when the next episode of a show will air in Japan.
Catsuka - A French language animation resource.
ANN - The most well known English language anime resource. While their coverage is truly extensive the quality of their reviews is questionable and their encyclopaedia is not always accurate.
Anime List/User Review Sites
MyAnimeList
Hummingbird
Podcasts
Bravo Whiskey Cast - Featuring AnimeGAF's own firehawk12!
Anime World Order - While this isn't updated particularly regular it has a great back catalogue of shows, especially for older anime.
Aya Suzuki Interview - The Pegbar and Grill podcast (a podcast that focuses on interviewing people who work in animation) where they talk to Aya Suzuki, a English/Japanese animator who worked on The Illusionist, Wolf's Children, The Dream Machine and The Wind Rises, among other things. This is probably one of the more informative interviews I've had on what it's like to work in the anime industry as it covers stuff like working hours, pay, working conditions, work flow, staffing, skill expectations etc etc.
Books
General anime textbooks
The Anime Encyclopaedia (2001) by Helen McCarthy and Jonathan Clements.
One of the most comprehensive and well researched English language sources for the medium of anime. As the title suggests, this isn't a specific resources for any one but it's great in terms of the sheer depth of content present within.
Anime A History (2013) by Jonathan Clements
Easily the most impressive English language book on anime that I have ever read. This is an extremely well researched treatise on the history of the medium not just in terms of what shows came out but what went on in terms of the business of making anime. It's certainly academic in nature and therefore probably not interest to the casual fan but for those who really want to learn more how anime came to be this is the book too read.
Schoolgirl Milky Crisis (2009) by Jonathan Clements
This is essentially of collection of writings by Jonathan Clements. If you like Clements' writing this is probably for you.
Anime from Akira to Howl's Moving Castle: Experiencing Contemporary Japanese Animation (2005) by Susan J. Napier
A slightly controversial book that attempts to subject various titles to the same kind of theoretical dissection that you can see in literary and film criticism. How successful the text is an open question but it's an interesting endeavour nevertheless.
Director Specific Texts
Starting Point 1979-1996 (1996) by Hayo Miyazaki
A series of essays written by the greatest anime director of all time. For those looking to understand this legendary figure where better to turn than his own words?
Hayo Miyazaki Master of Japanese Animation (2002) by Helen McCarthy
Still, if you actually want to read a book about Miyazaki's films this is the one to get. Unfortunately it only goes up too Princess Mononoke but it's still a good read.
Stray Dog of Anime The Films of Mamoru Oshii (2004) by Brian Ruh
An in-depth study of one of amine's most famous directors. It does what it says on the tin and so I recommend that only Oshii fan give this book a whirl.
Admiral Woofington
Member
The idea of a resource compiling lists and things of the sort is nice and all, but most folks who want to watch an anime and don't know what to watch would probably rather come to the thread and ask directly "if I like X what anime should I watch". Personalized answers is the reason to ask AnimeGAF vs simply going to a site like MAL and choosing top anime. As to literature and the art of animation and all of that, unless it's a member of the community I don't think most will be interested. Regardless, good job putting that together.
Locodol 09
Perhaps, a coincidence described as fate. That backstory was touching, and I like how both halves of the TBS animation block are train focused today. By being unassuming, this show's presented a look at idol culture that's different from the norm, but also feels like it has some things to say. It's not a glamorous job, there will be screwups, but it's not all bad, either. Plus the yuri levels with Nanyako and Yukarin went through the roof.
Perhaps, a coincidence described as fate. That backstory was touching, and I like how both halves of the TBS animation block are train focused today. By being unassuming, this show's presented a look at idol culture that's different from the norm, but also feels like it has some things to say. It's not a glamorous job, there will be screwups, but it's not all bad, either. Plus the yuri levels with Nanyako and Yukarin went through the roof.
MikeHattsu
Member
Gosick 15
Some details about Victorique's father's past gets revealed.
Uh... That explanation for the ghost though...
Some details about Victorique's father's past gets revealed.
Uh... That explanation for the ghost though...
Admiral Woofington
Member
is that the guy from Whose Line Is It Anyways in a war movie? lol
Ryan Stiles in Hot Shots: Part Deux
Admiral Woofington
Member
Ah. I guess I don't remember much from Hot Shots Part Deux. I remember the chicken arrow, the hitler fight, and one of my favorite stealth puns in the history of films
ultimatemegax
Member
I'd replace the last site with something's "Sales FAQ" instead. The older article is somewhat outdated and really gives a misinterpretation regarding disc sales that the FAQ addresses.
While it may be North American-centric, I would also recommend adding the two ANNCasts involving Chad Kime (from Geneon/Pioneer) and Robert Napton (from Bandai Entertainment) to provide a perspective of how the NA market used to be from the 1980s (Napton) until the crash where Geneon went out and then when Bandai left the market in 2012. They're good resources to see the past of the NA anime market.
Otherwise it looks like a great resource IMO.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If only the female characters were just deleted!
This is the kind of post that should be stickied, if we were in another forum or some such. It'd be really easy for it to just be lost after a day of posting.
Also, thanks for the podcast mention. lol
Admiral Woofington
Member
DTL and I can agree that dandere douche is boring and should die and that Slaine should be principal lead.
But we disagree on what constitutes a 'great showing' or a good episode.
For the Sakuga part, I would suggest a link to Blue Sakuga's channel who has a number of great animator MAD's. And also to Sakugabooru, I only found about it a while ago when someone name dropped it here and it's an easily missed, great resource if one wants to track great scenes from specific shows or animators.
Texhnolyze 18
Were going to the surface baby ! At least I hope so, I want to know what the hell happened to this world to make it like this.
Kano's grandmothers sure should have invested money into some protection. -_- That's what you get for incest.
Tokyo Ghoul 09
Decent fallout and set up episode. That grandma ghoul was hilarious. Censorship stroke again unfortunately, I don't remember AoT being butchered like this.
I hope I didn't just witness the start of Touka x Kaneki. Please for the love of God don't ruin this with romantic angle.
MikeHattsu
Member
Gosick 16
Whoever made this must hate nuns or something
Hm... Some random guesses: Is that old guy Victorique's father? And the mother is operating that mechanical turk? Guess I'll find out soon...
Whoever made this must hate nuns or something
Hm... Some random guesses: Is that old guy Victorique's father? And the mother is operating that mechanical turk? Guess I'll find out soon...
I just took a nap.
Femmeworth
Banned
College classes have started in the U.S. *posts from class*
That's partly what I was getting at.
Finally, getting some skeleton respect.
Since it's an LN, will he have a harem of girls to bone?
I hope he's not another spineless harem mc.
Admiral Woofington
Member
My classes don't start till monday. But my university has never given us labor day off. Fucking commies.
Haruhi Episode 11:
Alright finally an episode that isn't as crazy as everything that just happened in the previous episode, but I feel like we shot forward in time again by how Kyon is narrating everything. Was fun to see them play some computer game against the computer club in what seemed like a Battleship RTS game, and of course Yugi just decimates anyone in her path in the game <3. I don't know how much ahead this takes place from the previous episode, but it was interesting to see that Yugi really kept to Kyon's comment about looking better without the glasses since she didn't have them at all this episode. Maybe she didn't in a few previous episodes either now that I think about it, I may just have never noticed. Also Kyon is actually been a very good lead character so far, usually his role is filled by characters I never like, but he has always had his funny, sarcastic and smart moments. Plus I like how he always narrates everything, and sometimes I get confused as to what he tells himself and what he's actually saying outloud to others.
Alright finally an episode that isn't as crazy as everything that just happened in the previous episode, but I feel like we shot forward in time again by how Kyon is narrating everything. Was fun to see them play some computer game against the computer club in what seemed like a Battleship RTS game, and of course Yugi just decimates anyone in her path in the game <3. I don't know how much ahead this takes place from the previous episode, but it was interesting to see that Yugi really kept to Kyon's comment about looking better without the glasses since she didn't have them at all this episode. Maybe she didn't in a few previous episodes either now that I think about it, I may just have never noticed. Also Kyon is actually been a very good lead character so far, usually his role is filled by characters I never like, but he has always had his funny, sarcastic and smart moments. Plus I like how he always narrates everything, and sometimes I get confused as to what he tells himself and what he's actually saying outloud to others.
Jex
Member
Thanks. I'll include these and update the post accordingly.
Good suggestion. Will do.
Ideally this could be posted as part of the OP, perhaps in a separate post below the seasonal anime content.
Nyan Koi was alright. I liked it decently enough. Maybe I would like this one.
I like to think we are watching terrible stuff in hopes of finding another gem in the very rough for the List but failing to realize that the list shows are special because they arent really common.
Oshii is overrated a hell of a lot though. What was his most recent contribution of note?
You seem to know quite a lot about anime companies. Did this sort of thing used to happen often? I dont remember it occurring a lot despite owning thousands of DVDs. There were some issues with playback and audio but I dont remember it being so frequent.
Jex
Member
- I agree that many people are probably coming in here to see what anime they should watch, which is why I've put the recommended anime lists at the top of the page.
- Beyond creating a general resource for anime fans to use, I think that we should also do a better job of cataloguing and showcasing informative, well written and useful reviews, comments and thoughts about anime that people have written in AnimeGAF. Rather than letting their hard work simply slip away into the night, I think good work should be highlighted and used to sign post people towards which shows to watch.
- While we can certainly give tailored opinions I don't see why we shouldn't also offer up good resources which list numerous shows worth watching. I mean, it can only help, right?
- I won't suppose to know what people are looking for from the thread, which is why I'm also including ancillary information about sakuga, blogs, books etc. It can't hurt to provide more information, as long as it's displayed clearly.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Does anyone have issues with the Crunchyroll Android app and bad artifacting on older shows? I finally got around to restarting Haruhi and it struck me that the show had very bad artifacting problems on my tablet. Neither the SD or 480p streams on CR have this problem, but its happening on both my tablet and phone.
Fortunately I also have a Windows tablet as well, so I might just watch it on that instead, though it doesn't get nearly as good battery when watching videos and the speaker kind of sucks.
Fortunately I also have a Windows tablet as well, so I might just watch it on that instead, though it doesn't get nearly as good battery when watching videos and the speaker kind of sucks.
ultimatemegax
Member
Sentai's encoding/authoring came from ADV staff, and they used to have similar issues on their previous releases, though it wasn't as bad as they've gotten now due to licensing more shows and releasing cour sets.
Probably the worst offender had to be Bandai's use of poor replicators/authors time and time again. Between discs just not working on many series, audio being essentially mono (playing same audio on both channels), or using lossy audio on BDs, they ran into so much bad luck on their releases.
Also noting that Funi used to use alternative angles for Eng/JP credits on shows, which lowered bitrates a lot and there were a lot of complaints regarding the visual quality of their DVDs during that phase.
Jex
Member
Hello and welcome! Feel free to ask any questions you may have about anime in here and we'll try our best to answer them.
This looks rather interesting. It does have the look of a short run length series. 5 minutes maybe.
I think people are only watching whats going off-stream.
If Un-go does then maybe they will watch it too.
Please put something like this together. If you need some help I can contribute some ideas maybe. Id like to see the OP being like that so people dont have to ask if its ok to post about non-seasonal things and to generally have a better feel for what goes on in here.
I want to see more crazy things like the Madoka Magica witch worlds or the Penguindrum transformation sequence. Anime is so good at this.
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