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Okay I'm done

The Zone of the Enders 1

Couldn't even get my rocks off to that one

 

[Attleborotaco]

To clarify, it's Curtain Call, not the original, which I may have foolishly traded in for CC because I figured CC was the Duodecim to the original's Dissidia.

Curtain is great. And how was it foolish? Curtain call i believe has everything the original had.

 

[demidar]

The Zone of the Enders 1

Hmm, not aware of that one.

Spoiler

 

[Zenfalcia]

3d pig disgusting.

Spoiler

 

[jack_package_200]

Couldn't even get my rocks off to that one

Always wanted to see giant robots f

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uck

ight

 

[Ilvocare]

I'm torn between Theaterhythm, Ace Combat, FE:Awakening, Pokemon Silver, or Dark Souls.

Man, I didn't even mention my Steam games.....

 

[DoktorEvil]

Man, I didn't even mention my Steam games.....

I'm also maybe getting Armored Core Verdict Day or The Answer tomorrow, so add that to the list.

 

[jack_package_200]

The music in the opening song during opening FMV was terrible

 

[Ilvocare]

Curtain is great. And how was it foolish? Curtain call i believe has everything the original had.

-Multiplayer between the two games is exclusive, meaning no CC play with the original.
-CC certainly starts off with way more songs but there's a few that I had unlocked in the original that I can't access now.
-I wonder if I'd want to go back to the Chaos Shrine in TR after dealing with Quests in CC.
-EMS videos are exclusive to TR, whereas CC either has brand-new videos or just less of them.

It's minor things, but still things.

EDIT: On that note, if you own CC then isn't it possible to do Wi-Fi online versus???

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

Guys play Soul Hackers. Its good.

I gave up trying to play games since I ended up actually trying Pokemon Shuffle, so I decided to watch the Best Friends do For Answer instead.

However, I can't chose between continuing Ultimax, finishing Awakening, trying out South Park: The Stick of Truth, hell, even jumping back into Theaterhythm after having left it alone for so long...

you know, once I'm done with the Mechaweek video.

Shuffle is pretty fun tho...

 

[ArclightBorealis]

The Zone of the Enders 1

Hope you enjoy playing as a mecha protagonist whose even worse than fucking Shinji.

 

[jack_package_200]

Hope you enjoy playing as a mecha protagonist whose even worse than fucking Shinji.

I hear the game is pretty short

 

[Zenfalcia]

Always wanted to see giant robots f

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uck

ight

There's already things for that.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Hope you enjoy playing as a mecha protagonist whose even worse than fucking Shinji.

Nobody is as bad as Shinji.

That kid never did things like Shinji did in E of E.

I hear the game is pretty short

Fairly short.

 

[ArclightBorealis]

I hear the game is pretty short

It is, but it's the abrupt kind of short. Like, someone reminded Kojima that he still needed to finish MGS2 and that's where the rest of the money went.

 

[Ilvocare]

Shuffle is pretty fun tho...

It is, but then I remember I already bought Pokemon Battle Trozei, which doesn't have F2P up the ass like Shuffle does.

 

[mrmyhthef]

I hear the game is pretty short

It is. If you know what you're doing it can be easily done in 3-4 hours. 5 otherwise.

 

[jack_package_200]

Music so far is pretty mediocre

This is definitely a Kojima game. The opening is so long

 

[DoktorEvil]

Music so far is pretty mediocre

Jehuty tho.

And the boss fights!

I envy you right now.

 

[ArclightBorealis]

I still respect ZOE for being the one mecha series where the Orbital Frames have their cockpits in such an impractical location as the robot's dick.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Hope you enjoy playing as a mecha protagonist whose even worse than fucking Shinji.

Well, most mecha protagonists are worse than Shinji, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Guys play Soul Hackers. Its good.

I was already convinced

 

[Shackzam]

There's something in this song that I like. Feels like it's missing some polish to it.

 

[RecursiveFault]

There's something in this song that I like. Feels like it's missing some polish to it.

The drums work, but the chorus doesn't work.

 

[Shackzam]

The drums work, but the chorus doesn't work.

I think they have to edit out some parts of the song to make it work better, but the drums are probably the best part.

 

[jack_package_200]

I still respect ZOE for being the one mecha series where the Orbital Frames have their cockpits in such an impractical location as the robot's dick.

Kojima

 

[ArclightBorealis]

Kojima

I'm pinning it more on Yoji Shinkawa since it's his mechanical designs at work here.

 

[jack_package_200]

Protag is a bitch.

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

I was already convinced

Man its not even just her... The mechanics feel so good. They nailed fusion down perfectly in this game. I don't understand why Nocturne or SMT4 uses this type of fusion.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Man its not even just her... The mechanics feel so good. They nailed fusion down perfectly in this game. I don't understand why Nocturne or SMT4 uses this type of fusion.

So good tho

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I also want to play it for the mechanics. Polished classic SMT combat sounds interesting.

 

[Ilvocare]

Man its not even just her... The mechanics feel so good. They nailed fusion down perfectly in this game. I don't understand why Nocturne or SMT4 uses this type of fusion.

Isn't fusion in Soul Hackers basically "demons are fucking locked in on their skills and inheritence and actually don't level at all"?

...Yeah I'd prefer demons that grow SOMEWHAT than demons that are static.

 

[jack_package_200]

The writing is terrible

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

Isn't fusion in Soul Hackers basically "demons are fucking locked in on their skills and inheritence and actually don't level at all"?

...Yeah I'd prefer demons that grow SOMEWHAT than demons that are static.

The thing is it becomes a grind fest trying to get the right ability/level up. You mainly just use them for fusion fodder when they get out classed anyways. With locked in inheritence, you really have to think about which demons you should fuse and don't have to back in and out trying to get the right ability. There are serious problems with SMT3's fusion mechanics and I really dislike it.

 

[Ilvocare]

The thing is it becomes a grind fest trying to get the right ability/level up. You mainly just use them for fusion fodder when they get out classed anyways. With locked in inheritence, you really have to think about which demons you should fuse and don't have to back in and out trying to get the right ability. There are serious problems with SMT3's fusion mechanics and I really dislike it.

Right, but you also mentioned SMT4, which allows you to cherry pick skills.

That's way better, end of argument.

 

[Banana Aeon]

The writing is terrible

Kojima isn't known for his great writing.

 

[jack_package_200]

Kojima isn't known for his great writing.

Even for Kojima standards its bad

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

Right, but you also mentioned SMT4, which allows you to cherry pick skills.

That's way better, end of argument.

Not when the game isn't balanced for it. From what I've understand, by cherry picking, it makes encounters way too easy.

edit: they also become grind fest aswell trying to get the right ability.

 

[jack_package_200]

Fighting The Tempest

I feel like I am fighting the controls more than I am fighting the boss

 

[JooseBawcks]

The Best Friends Pat has basically turned us into SMTGAF

 

[RecursiveFault]

Right, but you also mentioned SMT4, which allows you to cherry pick skills.

That's way better, end of argument.

Customization is a double edged sword since it becomes laughably easy to build a broken as fuck party with minimal effort that is basically invincible to all attacks except almighty.

They try to lock off skills and stuff, but it doesn't quite work. SMT3 and P3/P4 all limit you with the RNG of skill inheritance. It lowers your chances of making broken demons.

Ideally some sort of point system, where each skill carried over came out of a bank of points that disallowed having a Demon with a broken skillset until endgame high level demons had a higher point bank, would be ideal.

The Best Friends Pat has basically turned us into SMTGAF

I already had an SMT boner before I was on GAF

 

[ArclightBorealis]

I already had an SMT boner before I was on GAF

Same.

Also a From Soft boner, on top of that.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Same.

Also a From Soft boner, on top of that.

I'd like to say that, but I need to play more of that backlog.

I guess it's a Souls boner.

 

[jack_package_200]

Not feeling Zone of the Enders right now

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

The Best Friends Pat has basically turned us into SMTGAF

I already had an SMT boner before I was on GAF

I got hooked on to SMT after the first 5 minutes of SMT1 during the summer. That was before GAF aswell. I just never dedicated time to it until now.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I was really interested in SMT after the first 5 minutes of SMT1 during the summer. That was before GAF aswell. I just never dedicated time to it until now.

P4 was my gateway game, beat P3FES right after, picked up Nocturne and fell in love. Preordered SMT4.

 

[Ilvocare]

Not when the game isn't balanced for it. From what I've understand, by cherry picking, it makes encounters way too easy.

edit: they also become grind fest aswell trying to get the right ability.

Demons only obtain new skills for like the first 5 levels or so after creation though, at most. It's hardly a grind if you're using them for the half-a-dungeon they're useful for.

Customization is a double edged sword since it becomes laughably easy to build a broken as fuck party with minimal effort that is basically invincible to all attacks except almighty.

They try to lock off skills and stuff, but it doesn't quite work. SMT3 and P3/P4 all limit you with the RNG of skill inheritance. It lowers your chances of making broken demons.

Ideally some sort of point system, where each skill carried over came out of a bank of points that disallowed having a Demon with a broken skillset until endgame high level demons had a higher point bank, would be ideal.
I already had an SMT boner before I was on GAF

I refuse to believe that the RNG limits or locks off ANYTHING. All you need to do is keep rolling that roulette, which may not occur to you naturally, but if someone cares enough then they'll play those fucking menus for all they're worth.

And that menu-playing is completely joyless, mind. It's an unintentional Skinner's Box.

And if we're talking about "choosing skills breaks the game," why hasn't anyone complained about its implementation in the Devil Survivor games???

 

[ArclightBorealis]

Not feeling Zone of the Enders right now

ZOE 2 is a much better game.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Not feeling Zone of the Enders right now

Everything I have heard suggests that ZOE1 isn't great. ZOE2 is the one to play

 

[RecursiveFault]

I refuse to believe that the RNG limits or locks off ANYTHING. All you need to do is keep rolling that roulette, which may not occur to you naturally, but if someone cares enough then they'll play those fucking menus for all they're worth.

And that menu-playing is completely joyless, mind. It's an unintentional Skinner's Box.

And if we're talking about "choosing skills breaks the game," why hasn't anyone complained about its implementation in the Devil Survivor games???

Oh I know, it's not a good solution, it's a bad one, but I prefer discouragement over saying "fuck it".

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A skill point system would be rad tho...

I haven't played DeSu so...

 

[JooseBawcks]

I already had an SMT boner before I was on GAF

I got hooked on to SMT after the first 5 minutes of SMT1 during the summer. That was before GAF aswell. I just never dedicated time to it until now.

You guys turned this into SMTGAF then.

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And dragged me along