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I want to stay as unspoiled as possible, I only watched the E3 trailer and nothing more.

I apologize.
Hopefully i did not spoil much with the running.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Sure but DS1 and 2 were big games as well, relatively.

They weren't really shown off at events as the big Sony exclusive and pushed around as much as Bloodborne. DS2 maybe a little, I guess.

Game accessibility is an annoying notion that I feel like is bought in to question way too frequently.

Pleasing the majority by shooting for the lowest common denominator is a simple way to think about maximizing profit.

 

[IDKAboutThat]

Game accessibility is an annoying notion that I feel like is bought in to question way too frequently.

Spoken like a true hardcore gamer. Accessibility is the difference between the Wii selling seven bazillion units and the new consoles selling half a bazillion. It's what keeps people coming in, and that's super important.

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I want to stay as unspoiled as possible, I only watched the E3 trailer and nothing more.

Well surprise oberon, there's gothic structures and lots of running.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I want to stay as unspoiled as possible, I only watched the E3 trailer and nothing more.

I'm the same. People have been posting gifs in here for weeks :x

I'm on mobile GAF right now though so HAH

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I am having SO MUCH TROUBLE making Shogo work on my computer.

 

[croten]

They weren't really shown off at events as the big Sony exclusive and pushed around as much as Bloodborne. DS2 maybe a little, I guess.

Pleasing the majority by shooting for the lowest common denominator is a simple way to think about maximizing profit.

It's why the Wii was so successful

 

[360pages]

Accessibility should be lower, not every game is for every person. We don't dumb down books for people

 

[Xiraiya]

Spoken like a true hardcore gamer. Accessibility is the difference between the Wii selling seven bazillion units and the new consoles selling half a bazillion. It's what keeps people coming in, and that's super important.

I'm not saying it in the sense of "If you're not bashing your face against a brick wall then it's pointless" because that's stupid.
I'm just saying that I feel like games get criticized too easily for accessibility sometimes when all it takes to figure them out is a little bit of understanding. the result of that criticism is games then being simplified or "streamlined" in ways that removes part of their depth.

Basically the level of accessibility should never be a compromise, it should be an intention from the beginning

 

[RecursiveFault]

Accessibility should be lower, not every game is for every person. We don't dumb down books for people

But you know what books sell the most?

The dumb ones that appeal to everyone.

 

[Oberon]

I apologize.
Hopefully i did not spoil much with the running.

It's ok, I have already put you on my ignore list for that.

Well surprise oberon, there's gothic structures and lots of running.

Preorder canelled

I'm the same. People have been posting gifs in here for weeks :x

I'm on mobile GAF right now though so HAH

I want my first time to be special. Pls Blood-chan

Spoiler

don't

be gentle ~

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I'm not saying it in the sense of "If you're not bashing your face against a brick wall then it's pointless" because that's stupid.

I'm just saying that I feel like games get criticized too easily for accessibility sometimes when all it takes to figure them out is a little bit of understanding. the result of that criticism is games then being simplified or "streamlined" in ways that removes part of their depth.

Yeah. That always sucks.

 

[ArclightBorealis]

I need a PS4 AC in my life so badly right now.

Fuck Woolie for reminding me how amazing this franchise is.

Now you know how I feel.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I'm not saying it in the sense of "If you're not bashing your face against a brick wall then it's pointless" because that's stupid.

I'm just saying that I feel like games get criticized too easily for accessibility sometimes when all it takes to figure them out is a little bit of understanding. the result of that criticism is games then being simplified or "streamlined" in ways that removes part of their depth.

In terms of actual game quality for people like us, yeah, for sure. Accessibility is something that can exist independant of quality, say like, in a Mario game where mechanics are simple enough that pretty much anyone ever can play them, but they can still be really good games.

The attitude you're describing does result in diminished experiences for a lot of games, but when you're selling your thing as a product and you have corporate interests, you're kinda forced by the bigwigs.

 

[Numb]

It's ok, I have already put you on my ignore list for that.

Almost gave me a heart attack
I should probably remove it since fraud hasnt seen it yet.

 

[Zenfalcia]

But Matt is the leader of the hawks.

Hmm... quite a situation we're in.

Why did they give Woolie a behelit?!

They didn't know better!

Star Wars: Battlefront is debuting in April. Will it live up to the previous battlefront games? Probably not. Still, I hope it's a decent shooter. I need a new shootbang in my life.

It's going to be terrible... but I'll probably still play it for a bit..

 

[jack_package_200]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1013407

A lot of salt here

Accessibility should be lower, not every game is for every person. We don't dumb down books for people

Isn't someone in here reading a graphic novel adaptation of Macbeth for high school?

 

[360pages]

I'm always one to say that if X is popular it's popular for a reason. Even series I hate like Twilight, or series that quality is questionable at best like Naruto knows what they are doing and how to appeal to said market.

(Naruto is no where near as bad as Twilight)

Hell, I usually try to make my writing a stories easy for everyone to read. But I'm not saying more complex things should be dumbdown for me to enjoy.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Almost gave me a heart attack
I should probably remove it since fraud hasnt seen it yet.

It is literally 2 seconds of running with him drawing his weapons. There is nothing spoiled in that gif. I'm all for spoiler tagging everything but this is kind of ridiculous

 

[RecursiveFault]

Hell, I usually try to make my writing a stories easy for everyone to read. But I'm not saying more complex things should be dumbdown for me to enjoy.

Books are mainly different because they have way less fingers in the pie and way less money at stake. Book publishers don't tell you to dumb down your books for sales.

It's nearly impossible to justify appealing to a niche in videogames, unless you're indie or one of the few medium sized studios.

It is literally 2 seconds of running with him drawing his weapons. There is nothing spoiled in that gif. I'm all for spoiler tagging everything but this is kind of ridiculous

LET ME BE CRAZY

 

[IDKAboutThat]

It is literally 2 seconds of running with him drawing his weapons. There is nothing spoiled in that gif. I'm all for spoiler tagging everything but this is kind of ridiculous

Crazy is a slippery slope, man. There's no reasoning with these people on this. Best to just do what they say.

 

[Zenfalcia]

It is literally 2 seconds of running with him drawing his weapons. There is nothing spoiled in that gif. I'm all for spoiler tagging everything but this is kind of ridiculous

I agree. Quite crazy.

 

[Numb]

I'm always one to say that if X is popular it's popular for a reason. Even series I hate like Twilight, or series that quality is questionable at best like Naruto knows what they are doing and how to appeal to said market.

(Naruto is no where near as bad as Twilight)

Hell, I usually try to make my writing a stories easy for everyone to read. But I'm not saying more complex things should be dumbdown for me to enjoy.

I finished them both.
To be honest i treated them like comedies and was laughing all the time through the dumb shit going on.
I go out of my way to find stupid stuff like this cos its unique comedy you cant find anywhere else.

It is literally 2 seconds of running with him drawing his weapons. There is nothing spoiled in that gif. I'm all for spoiler tagging everything but this is kind of ridiculous

There are people that like to be super spoiler free and i understand that.

 

[Banana Aeon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1013407

A lot of salt here

I typically like Super BunnyHop videos, but this one is atrocious.

 

[Okingjrr]

Does Majordyne know he can redeem his Club Nintendo stars for digital games now?

What?! Time to buy more games to get codes

That's what this thread says

*CTRL+F "Mega Man" --> 0 of 0 results* :'(

I'll see what I can get.

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I'm always one to say that if X is popular it's popular for a reason. Even series I hate like Twilight, or series that quality is questionable at best like Naruto knows what they are doing and how to appeal to said market.

(Naruto is no where near as bad as Twilight)

Hell, I usually try to make my writing a stories easy for everyone to read. But I'm not saying more complex things should be dumbdown for me to enjoy.

I read Twilight. The whole thing. I don't recommend it.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Game accessibility is an annoying notion that I feel like is bought in to question way too frequently.

Not everyone likes games with high skill ceilings. Some people like the "Press X to win" feeling you get from certain games(Batman:Arkham series).

Spoken like a true hardcore gamer. Accessibility is the difference between the Wii selling seven bazillion units and the new consoles selling half a bazillion. It's what keeps people coming in, and that's super important.

It's why the Wii was so successful

OH BOTH OF YOU!

 

[croten]

Just redeemed all my codes and now I have 5800 stars. Now the question is what to get with them.

 

[Xiraiya]

Not everyone likes games with high skill ceilings. Some people like the "Press X to win" feeling you get from certain games(Batman:Arkham series).

You missed the point.

 

[croten]

Not everyone likes games with high skill ceilings. Some people like the "Press X to win" feeling you get from certain games(Batman:Arkham series).




OH BOTH OF YOU!

I'm not joking. Games like Wii Sports were a huge hit due to how accessible they were to everybody. My granny who has only ever played Tetris was playing it, that's pretty god damn accessible.

 

[misses bull]

Star Wars: Battlefront is debuting in April. Will it live up to the previous battlefront games? Probably not. Still, I hope it's a decent shooter. I need a new shootbang in my life.

Did you play battlefield 4 on launch? Cause if you did he answer is a big fat no

 

[jack_package_200]

I typically like Super BunnyHop videos, but this one is atrocious.

While agree with his points (Wii U is the only console that differentiated itself, If you game on PC, there is not much point to a PS4 of Xbone) I do think there is a level of smugness.

He might have felt a bit differently if he was a Persona fan

 

[Mathaou]

He's jumping ship to Platinum.

KojimaxKamiya is going to happen.

 

[Zenfalcia]

Just redeemed all my codes and now I have 5800 stars. Now the question is what to get with them.

Conglaturations.

 

[TC McQueen]

Isn't someone in here reading a graphic novel adaptation of Macbeth for high school?

Shakespeare is a terrible example of this because early modern English is practically a different language when read off the page and honestly shouldn't be read outside of a college class specializing in Shakespeare, with a teacher who knows a lot about Shakespeare.

 

[doctorblurg]

Wow this kojima shit is crazy I saw a post on tumblr where all mention of kojima and kojipro were taken off all the phantom pain sites and I thought it was just another scheme

 

[jack_package_200]

Shakespeare is a terrible example of this because early modern English is practically a different language when read off the page and honestly shouldn't be read outside of a college class specializing in Shakespeare, with a teacher who knows a lot about Shakespeare.

I did Macbeth and The Odyssey my freshman year of highschool in the regular (not honors) english class.

Get gud high school kids

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I did Macbeth and The Odyssey my freshman year of highschool in the regular (not honors) english class.

Get gud high school kids

Get good indeed. I do theatre. Shakespeare makes sense if you think about it.

 

[TC McQueen]

I did Macbeth and The Odyssey my freshman year of highschool in the regular (not honors) english class.

I did Shakespeare in regular English classes in high school too. Doesn't change the fact that forcing the stuff on kids who don't give a shit about Shakespeare's significance to the English language is a bad idea. Why do you think Americans generally hate reading? High school literature/English classes forcing them to read shit they didn't care about.

 

[DoktorEvil]

You missed the point.

What, that questioning whether or not a game is accessible is valid?

I understood your point quite clearly.

I'm not saying it in the sense of "If you're not bashing your face against a brick wall then it's pointless" because that's stupid.
I'm just saying that I feel like games get criticized too easily for accessibility sometimes when all it takes to figure them out is a little bit of understanding. the result of that criticism is games then being simplified or "streamlined" in ways that removes part of their depth.

Basically the level of accessibility should never be a compromise, it should be an intention from the beginning

Your little bit of understanding might vary wildly from someone else's little bit of understanding.

 

[IDKAboutThat]

I did Shakespeare in regular English classes in high school too. Doesn't change the fact that forcing the stuff on kids who don't give a shit about Shakespeare's significance to the English language is a bad idea. Why do you think Americans generally hate reading? High school literature/English classes forcing them to read shit they didn't care about.

The American education system is shit garbage. This is known.

 

[Zenfalcia]

Wow this kojima shit is crazy I saw a post on tumblr where all mention of kojima and kojipro were taken off all the phantom pain sites and I thought it was just another scheme

There's a thread about it if you're interested.

 

[zedreamcast]

this has to be one of the stupidest things i've seen

A man looks the same as he did before! how dare they!?

 

[doctorblurg]

There's a thread about it if you're interested.

I mean there isn't much more to say it's just upsetting and shit

 

[RecursiveFault]

this has to be one of the stupidest things i've seen

A man looks the same as he did before! how dare they!?

Think he means in a nostalgic way. Like, y'know, "no matter how far we get we keep our roots"

 

[zedreamcast]

Think he means in a nostalgic way. Like, y'know, "no matter how far we get we keep our roots"

Well I saw it on Tumblr so I was thinking it was a complaint about how hes not a black transgendered homosexual person.

 

[Xiraiya]

What, that questioning whether or not a game is accessible is valid?

I understood your point quite clearly.

Your little bit of understanding might vary wildly from someone else's little bit of understanding.

Of course there are people who only want to press X to win, that's just stating the obvious, but it's not my point.

 

[DoktorEvil]

this has to be one of the stupidest things i've seen
A man looks the same as he did before! how dare they!?

Uhh I think he means that no matter how nice graphics get, we know our history.

 

[Mathaou]

For whoever is reading MacBeth, I was The Porter in my fall production. Shakespeare is weird because I still remember my whole soliloquy.

 

[zedreamcast]

Uhh I think he means that no matter how nice graphics get, we know our history.

nope decided to look up the guys twitter account alot of SJW stuff on it.