Holy shit, I've played like 14 games because of them, and plan to play more. Who knew?
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Super Best Friends Thread 17: I don't have Bloodborne or Monster Hunter... Uhh...
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Holy shit, I've played like 14 games because of them, and plan to play more. Who knew?
I played Hearthstone and bought MH3U because of Pat. MH3U didn't really pan out, but I've been consumed by Hearthstone ever since.
I will say that I was sold on The Walking Dead season 1 after watching a few minutes of the Giant Bomb QL (which is like a one episode Let's Play) and I did enjoy it a lot. Generally speaking though I know my tastes and other people don't influence my buying habits.
I will say that I was sold on The Walking Dead season 1 after watching a few minutes of the Giant Bomb QL (which is like a one episode Let's Play) and I did enjoy it a lot. Generally speaking though I know my tastes and other people don't influence my buying habits.
Quite a lot actually... To be honest, i wouldn't know about most of the games I have if I didn't watch a video or a let's play of it. The best friends in particular... without them i wouldn't never gotten into persona or half the kickstarter or indie titles out there.
Also, I feel like I'm the only one but does anyone get angry at how someone plays a game poorly and then buys the game out of spite just to play better than them? I feel like i'm crazy...
I'm a bit behind on the Madworld LP and I'm only watching the recent episode because I love that boss fight. It's really fucked. The audio during cutscenes completely drowns them out. It's really unfortunate that this seems to slowly becoming a pattern with Woolie/Matt LPs. The audio during the last episode of Shaolin Monks was completely fucked and it's been fucked pretty bad for Madworld half the time. I really hope they Matt and Woolie can eventually settle on games or some dynamic that works for them. I didn't watch TWAU or GoT since I'd rather play the games first, but I feel like I've heard those LPs have been fine. It's also easier since those are just story heavy games. Def Jam worked well due to Rage role playing jokes even if watching the gameplay felt a little average. Either they need to just think harder about what they choose to do or get Liam in on this to bring some more to the table like Metroid Fusion or Viewtiful Joe.
Edit- And just finished the Madworld episode. The audio just jumps up and down with a weird rhythm. Big during some cutscenes and shitty during gameplay. I enjoyed Woolie's ORAing, but not hearing anything in that battle hurt. I also can't imagine why this isn't labeled as FINAL considering there's little other content that could be used to make a FINAL episode. You unlock some bonus weapons for beating the game, but making 25 minutes of content out of that and the credits? Eh, I guess.
Are you saying you do this? I can't say it's crazy or anything since I feel like I've done it before, but I can't think of for what. I feel like I've asked myself the question, is this as hard as they're making it out to be, really? Then I play the game and find out they're just bad at the game. I think I've done this more with Giantbomb QLs more than SBF stuff though. I'm not digging at GB's game playing skills or anything besides Brad, but it's mostly just because GB covers a way bigger variety of things than SBF so I don't usually have the feeling when SBF play stuff.
Yeah, I do it a lot... and also judge them harshly when they're playing, with the occasional screaming at the screen... SBF isn't too bad, they usually get most things and get the gist of what they're doing.
Unless it's survival games like this war of mine, then they're awful.
RecursiveFault
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Best Friends got me into games as a medium a lot more seriously than I was before. Not that I didn't always love videogames, but: as someone who used to read GameInformer for news, it's been a huge step up since I've found good alternatives.
I can't say I've done that, my worst reactions are when they can't understand a tutorial though. People take the SBF for granted, they're a lot smarter about that stuff then 99% of people out there.
I don't watch much else besides the best friends and Giantbomb, so I don't feel like it happens too often with me for the best friends at least. I'm also ignorant about the deeper games like This War of Mine so I wouldn't know how "badly" they're playing.
I also haven't watch their Evil Within LP or Walking Dead S2 or most of their more controversial things to know if I would be mad or not. I think I remember being annoyed at Woolie being a coward in Dark Souls 2, but I don't remember if I was ever truly annoyed or yelling at my screen. There's also the JoJo video, but I was ignorant on JoJo and the fighting game at the time. The Nuzlocke was painful to watch because of them not knowing some shit, but that LP was soul crushing in general.
RecursiveFault
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Oh, and did anyone comment on how we had two seperate recording occasions of Sir Mix A Lot on the same day? That shit was hilarious.
haha i lost my mind when they dropped the second one in RE:R2
(first was in XBL Indie Games VI, SteveTR)
Glitchesarecool
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Yeah I brought it up shortly after the REV2 video went up.
I'm might have come off as a little extreme, and now that I think of it, there's only a few moments where I got really frustrated. Those times really frustrated me...
The best friends are fairly competent compared to other people, but they have times where they make mistakes or don't understand something. It might be due to them skipping over tutorials or being distracted when important tips or controls comes up on screen.
It's not always yelling sometimes it's just mental comments or speculation of how they could have done better if they did something differently.
It sure got me thinking about more about the people making the games rather than just the end video game.
The best friends are fairly competent compared to other people, but they have times where they make mistakes or don't understand something. It might be due to them skipping over tutorials or being distracted when important tips or controls comes up on screen.
I watch Rooster teeth/Achievement Hunter and they've played really poorly in some games.
It's not always yelling sometimes it's just mental comments or speculation of how they could have done better if they did something differently.
I think i take the LP too seriously and expect them to be fairly good at the game. Sometimes it's just lack of trying something out that might hinder them. I don't always yell at the screen, most of it is mental comments until it's something they're missing right in front of them.
I don't know, I think it's pretty rare that I get frustrated with them, I see people make comments all the time about screaming at the screen and then I think that's an overreaction, there are certain things in gaming I am pretty lenient about that other people might not be and things people don't care about but I do.
For example, I don't really care if they have like a subpar build in Dark Souls 2 or something, because that's the kind of thing you just have to figure out over time, and I know if they had severe build issues in a game like that, Pat is always going to figure it out eventually, they won't go through a whole game wondering why their character is shit.
But that kind of thing gets people really angry for some reason.
While I'll get frustrated at them looking for like a door or item they very obviously run past like 4 or 5 times or forgetting to use a mechanic they were taught and specifically try everything but that one thing to beat a puzzle and even actively be like "No it wouldn't work anyway" rather than just trying (Like the Eternal Darkness Fiasco).
I don't expect them to know everything or be amazing, I expect them to pay attention to what they're playing.
Them fucking up is part of the fun, but if it's like a Brad situation of being actively bad through not caring, then I hate that.
For example, I don't really care if they have like a subpar build in Dark Souls 2 or something, because that's the kind of thing you just have to figure out over time, and I know if they had severe build issues in a game like that, Pat is always going to figure it out eventually, they won't go through a whole game wondering why their character is shit.
But that kind of thing gets people really angry for some reason.
While I'll get frustrated at them looking for like a door or item they very obviously run past like 4 or 5 times or forgetting to use a mechanic they were taught and specifically try everything but that one thing to beat a puzzle and even actively be like "No it wouldn't work anyway" rather than just trying (Like the Eternal Darkness Fiasco).
I don't expect them to know everything or be amazing, I expect them to pay attention to what they're playing.
Them fucking up is part of the fun, but if it's like a Brad situation of being actively bad through not caring, then I hate that.
doctorblurg
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I definitely find them to be a lot better about missing things and general skill level compared to other Lp'ers which is why they're pretty much the only people I watch now. I don't normally get upset at them because they can't do shit perfect especially during the BB LP when they're playing the game right at release and they have to learn about stuff just like anyone else. Like the monocle thing in BB was just funny to me and if they miss stuff it's whatever as long as they don't leave in huge amounts of footage of them getting nothing done and barely saying anything to just fill out an episode.
It'd be boring as hell if they just DSP'ed it and had people in a stream chat tell them everything or just looked at GameFAQs page the whole time.
It'd be boring as hell if they just DSP'ed it and had people in a stream chat tell them everything or just looked at GameFAQs page the whole time.
RecursiveFault
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I don't know, I think that's fine, if they really don't know where to go find something, I rather they look it up and not spend 30 minutes looking.
doctorblurg
Banned
Eh that was whatever honestly I'd rather than get to move through a game a constant smooth pace then have two or three episodes of just grinding and hunting for items.
RecursiveFault
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I didn't actually mind except for the Culex fight, but it was weird/funny hearing Pat ramble about how he's getting on his phone to google shit.
DoktorEvil
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I'd prefer that they look up pertinent information to a LP without making it look so obvious.
Frankly, the guys aren't great LPers, but they're entertaining and have great Injokes and chemistry which makes their shenanigans watchable.
Great LPers like HCBailey, ChuggaConroy, Slowbeef, ProtonJon, Chip & Ironicus, and NintendoCapriSun are wholly better at providing information to the viewer but are sometimes dry or just boring to listen to.
If not for their connections to the FGC and their on screen group chemistry, I don't think I would've stuck around as long as I have or have joined GAF.
RecursiveFault
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I think Pat making it so obvious was intentional. It's kinda like admitting they're dumb, but I don't think it's as funny as he intended it to be.
This is kinda subjective, on what "good LPs" are. To be frank the Zaibuttsu mainly go for the "entertaining" route over informational, but what makes that fun for me, is that they actually have pretty deep knowledge of everything videogames and other pop culture that they tap into on occasion and can talk about.
Also they're actually super funny.
That sounds terrible.
I don't need information, I can get that anywhere. That sounds like a "Let's Teach".
To me, a Let's play is exactly what it implies "Let's play a game together, it'll be fucking dumb sometimes and hilarious other times but we'll get through it." Because that's what happens when you're hanging out and decide to play through a game with friends.
The Best Friends are exactly the dynamic I imagined when I first started hearing the term.
DAREALGUMMY
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The one in the RE4 LP will never be topped IMO. Although them looping lyrics and Pat pointing it out was pretty hilarious.
DoktorEvil
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My comments aren't a slight against the Best Friends, but some of their LPs can leave something to be desired. Having played and beaten SM RPG multiple times when I was a child, it was anti climatic to say the least when Pat and Liam pull out the information about the Lazy Shell and proceed to min-max their way through the rest of the game, not even bothering to look at the other characters or their moves. That's not something I'd expect from them.
There's plenty of room for both entertaining and informative LPs. The best LPers manage to get both done very well(Chip & Ironicus are what I imagine when "Best LPer" is mentioned)
Let's Play has only been around as long as Google Video came into existance, which isn't very long(8 years and counting). There's plenty of ways to go. Guys like Plague or MatthewMitosis or Jeff Green break down components of a game or reveal most of the Easter Eggs and break down the plot in their videos. I like these kind of LPs as well as hearing Matt quote a million Simpsons references or Hearing Pat lose his shit for the umpteenth time.
There's plenty of room for both entertaining and informative LPs. The best LPers manage to get both done very well(Chip & Ironicus are what I imagine when "Best LPer" is mentioned)
Let's Play has only been around as long as Google Video came into existance, which isn't very long(8 years and counting). There's plenty of ways to go. Guys like Plague or MatthewMitosis or Jeff Green break down components of a game or reveal most of the Easter Eggs and break down the plot in their videos. I like these kind of LPs as well as hearing Matt quote a million Simpsons references or Hearing Pat lose his shit for the umpteenth time.
007 From Russia With Love - Matt's Sexy Bond-A-Thon
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/007-from-russia-with-love-matts-sexy-bond-a-thon/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pneDjZELKw
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/007-from-russia-with-love-matts-sexy-bond-a-thon/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pneDjZELKw
E_Darkness
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This what I need today. I'm sad these are weekly.
RecursiveFault
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Sorry for the late reply, Easter and shit, but I do totally agree with you that there's plenty of room for analysis or being informational, but they don't really have to have that goal. There's nothing wrong with just being funny and having fun, it's a good time.
The SBF aren't my favorite thing ever to be frank, people that make analytical content don't exactly tend towards the LP format as much as edited down reviews, like Matthewmatosis. I love that kind of analytical look at games more than anything, but the SBF never really set out with that in mind.
I take their knowledge and opinions as more of an element in the podcast than in the LPs, and I get what you mean, they could do a bit better by being more invested, not having so many technical issues, being more willing to edit- but I'd call that "professionalism" more than them being good, it's just them being highly entertaining and enjoyable, with the occasional technical issues.
DoktorEvil
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Matt's killing it with the Sean Connery accent.
That James Bond in game model also looks pretty damn good.
That Scottish accent, I can't even...
Can't wait for the Quantum of Solace episode, stuff will be said.
I 1000/1000 Quantum of solace, but the game was such a broken POS.
Banana Aeon
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Such an underrated series. I love these.
Matt's seductive Scottish accent is the best.
skLaFarebear
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Doing research on a game and min maxing the hell out of it? Yeah, you're right, Pat would never do that. Pat also never cheats in video games either.
RecursiveFault
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I can't believe people expected him to waste FP in fights just for no raisin or to kill things faster. You save that shit for bosses.
skLaFarebear
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Every time Pat talks about his obsessive desire to never use items ever in an RPG so you can save them for the final boss and not end up using them anyway and finishing the game with a bunch of them, I just think "yeah, that's totally me."
And now Pat's even got me hooked on making sure all my items in my inventory end in multiples of 5.
DAMN IT PAT.
E_Darkness
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Next you'll be opening up the cheat engine.
skLaFarebear
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Because Woolie wants to be seen as a cool smooth guy.
Pat just doesn't give a shit, and why should he?
Woolie's inner weeb exploded when mecha week came out and then there was japan and then there was the moments before when he talked about mangas and animes he was reading/watching... But before ALL of that, there was naruto.
DoktorEvil
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The only cool, not weeb-y guy is Liam.
Their time is up and his time is now.
Their time is up and his time is now.
GlassEmpires
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I can't be the only one who found Matt's Sean Connery literally day-ruining
DXLelouch153
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GlassEmpires
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Enjoyed the video, but the accent wasn't why I did.
DXLelouch153
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its finally over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsH4-zOAAQ
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/best-friends-play-madworld-aftermathfinale/
Madworld part final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsH4-zOAAQ
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/best-friends-play-madworld-aftermathfinale/
Madworld part final
ArclightBorealis
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The time has come and so has he.
TC McQueen
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They're two out of two for fucking up the latest MadWorld uploads to the site. The video isn't even there this time.
I can definitely understand being mad at Rooster Teeth stuff. They're way more laid back/uncaring based off the content I've seen from them. The tiptoppest of anger I'll get from an LP is just sternly yelling at my TV/Monitor "What are you doing? Please god, no, just do the thing, please." This happens rarely and only when it's the dumbest thing. I can't remember if I've ever been that upset with a best friends thing or not. Probably once or twice during Dark Souls 2 because of Woolie's timidness/cowardliness near the beginning parts, but that might be it. I don't want to derail, but god damn, Brad during that SotC Quick Look was the exact kind of shit I hope to never see from this channel.
He didn't notice the grip meter so he just kept holding R1 and kept falling over and over off the first colossus.
I don't feel like that upsets Woolie much anymore. The thief part maybe since that's more realistic than murderer or the inability to read, but eh. Maybe it's just a seething rage though. It's also just become a staple to add dumb lore to Woolie's resume of bullshit. I do think Pat's bothered by it even if he doesn't want to admit it. His excuses of "It's a singleplayer game. I'm not hurting anyone. It's like 20 years old," were all very backpedally and higher pitched than his usual not giving a shit tone. He's becoming a bit Vinny Caravellay with sometimes just cheating to get the thing done with instead of wasting time.
ArclightBorealis
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I had a feeling that the final Madworld part was gonna be covering the post game content, but fuck I forgot about that katana and its strong attack. Sick
Believe it.
Interesting. What was the reason then?
Yes they are, they're more for the entertainment value and the game is just a side dish. It's the worst when it's a game they have to pay attention to and is fairly unforgiving.
Damn FTL lp plus "interview" was so bad...
TC McQueen
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You know what? I think the best part of the MadWorld LP for me was the fact that Matt and Woolie left the door open for more PC emulated Gamecube/Wii game videos/LPs. That could give some games a really nice boost/make them not look like utter garbage at average YouTube/video resolutions. I kinda wish they'd do it for all PS1 games, but considering how often they comment on bad graphics/cool graphical techniques in those games, I can live without PC PS1 emulation.
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