I also forgot about the games for may until they mentioned it.
It does seem that way.
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Super Best Friends Thread 17: I don't have Bloodborne or Monster Hunter... Uhh...
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M0nochromatic
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Thanks for the warm welcome! I've been watching some of the Friday Night Fisticuffs(Gang beasts and Lethal League look so amazing) and the Life is Strange LP. I heard the "Dio with a DeLorean" joke on the podcast and had to check it out.
I'll definitely check out the Silent Hill LP, and I'll check out the recommend-eds on the front page as well!
Ultimate_Trainer
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Wow they are really late with the Touhou Playism news(Even when it was stealth news). It's pretty cool that they mention it at least.
ArclightBorealis
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I think back to my high school yearbooks and not only did we not get our own quotes when graduating, but I also deliberately avoided picking up my yearbook every year when they were being handed out, which ended up wasting part of the money my parents were paying for me to attend the school.
Somehow I'm not surprised at Pat's general behavior towards his high school. Like a more intense version of myself at that time.
There is no hope left for Woolie.
No hope at all.
Pat hates the things other people are just annoyed by but he also hates those things extremely.
Hey, that's good, there are also the one-offs they did for machinima which are also great. You might want to check some of those out.
It's not a lot of money for the yearbooks to be honest. Unless it was for yours.
Pat is all about the intensity, you should know this by now.
Chaos2Frozen
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I really can't tell the difference between a good sonic game and a bad sonic game from looking at these playthroughs...
As someone who stopped after Sonic 3, I kinda feel the same.
Sonic Adventure seems to be where the bad Sonic "lore" began to take off though. Maybe I'm crazy, but it still baffles me that there are Sonic games that take place in human cities.
VidulaSaix
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Pat keeps falling into the FF14 trap.
Good, good~
Good, good~
He's going to be craving that NFL shit soon, man. Before you know it he'll break out into cold sweats that won't go away until he switches on Voodoo Vince.
Imperfected
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I'm kind of with Pat. FF14 is so good, it's honestly the best Final Fantasy in years. I just really want a single-player version of it.
That's not really saying much...
DoktorEvil
Banned
Sonic does not translate very well to 3D.
I haven't played a Sanic 3D game that wasn't jank. Also, the weird furry - human overlap...
So far, I'm seeing mini game set pieces juxtaposed against the Chaos emeralds. To be fair, I didn't own a Dreamcast.
Glitchesarecool
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Generations and Colors weren't that janky.
Like I know those two games are held up a lot but they're solid 3D sonic games.
Like I know those two games are held up a lot but they're solid 3D sonic games.
DoktorEvil
Banned
It's normally Sanic Adventures 1 and 2 that people claim are really good.
But watching ProJared review SA2 and the Best Friends play SA1, mannnnnnnnn. A lot of rough edges.
Glitchesarecool
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They were good.
In the context of the time, and these really being the first 3D Sonic games (3D Blast doesn't count, fuck off with that), they delivered a sense of speed and action that you expected from a Sonic game.
They were jank as fuck, but they worked and were fun. It's like a show being just campy enough that it's still enjoyable without becoming annoying.
Of course in the context of later gaming they look nigh-unplayable. Liam's demonstrating a fascinating amount of weird behaviors the game has.
In the context of the time, and these really being the first 3D Sonic games (3D Blast doesn't count, fuck off with that), they delivered a sense of speed and action that you expected from a Sonic game.
They were jank as fuck, but they worked and were fun. It's like a show being just campy enough that it's still enjoyable without becoming annoying.
Of course in the context of later gaming they look nigh-unplayable. Liam's demonstrating a fascinating amount of weird behaviors the game has.
FlammableD
Banned
dying
dying
DAAAAAAAAMN! That was ice cold and I loved it lol
They're good relative to other sonic games, not to other games in general
DoktorEvil
Banned
What you're telling me is that Sonic games were never great, just good.
Good at best.
No, Sonic 3&K I would always play over any Mario game, outside of maybe world
Good at best.
I don't know, I just find a lot of Mario games to be kind of Slow, when I played Mario 3 it felt so...ugh. World just felt better, probably just played it too late. But I legit wonder what was so great about it outside of being the first of its kind.
I played 3 for the first time some months ago and think it's far beyond any sonic game.
I tried to play 3 twice, I think the levels are too simplistic and power ups kind of eh...Everything it did World did better, and while I played both late. I can see World as a fantastic game While I think 3 just kind of falls flat.
3 was legitimately a challenge, world was far to easy for me to enjoy. It just felt mind numbing.
Hmm, that might be it. But I felt at times 3 controls were too slippery, other than being the first to do so.
Actually, Mario 64, looking back on it as well. It aged better, but compared to later platformers it can get kind of slow in later areas.
Imperfected
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I guess I should go by title numbers instead of years, considering how many years it is between each title at this point. How about, "It's the best Final Fantasy since 7"?
DoktorEvil
Banned
More slippery than SMB2?
I'd also like to remind you that any comparison to SMB3 and to Sonic is fundamentally unfair
to Sonic
3 came out in 1988. In 1988, SMB3 is mind blowing for a NES game.
Well, that's the thing. I don't find SMB3 a good game by itself. Sure it's super amazing for an NES game. But as a game I can go back to, eh.
To be fair, I have the same problem with Sonic 1.
While World stands on its own for the most part, so many games took the power ups and ideas from 3 and did it better.
I would say Sonic adventure 1 was good. Not great, but good. But more importantly, it was one of the few times when Sonic Team had the basics for a good Sonic gameplay, and the only time Sonic Team had the basics for tails and knuckles gameplay pinned down as well.
It was extremely janky though. Bugs all over shop, wonky camera, and half of the game being forgettable overall. But damn were they close to pinning down something good.
Ideally, for adventure 2 they could've trimmed down the fat by a lot (remove amy, e102 and big's sections, maybe only as minigames, and expand tails and knuckles levels instead). Improve the camera and controls, fix the jankyness overall, have more diversity and seamlessness in level design and it would be great. Also keep the chao gardens, because muh chaos were the best
Problem is that they decided to go with even more setpieces in adventure 2, streamlined the shit out of the levels as a result, worsened knuckles gameplay with the new radar mechanic and questionnable levels and had the tails/eggman levels.
And well, the followups after that speak for themselves.
Only generation managed to catch up for me as it actually had good level design and great replayability for that alone, but we'll probably never have old SA1 tails and knuckles gameplay to go with it
It was extremely janky though. Bugs all over shop, wonky camera, and half of the game being forgettable overall. But damn were they close to pinning down something good.
Ideally, for adventure 2 they could've trimmed down the fat by a lot (remove amy, e102 and big's sections, maybe only as minigames, and expand tails and knuckles levels instead). Improve the camera and controls, fix the jankyness overall, have more diversity and seamlessness in level design and it would be great. Also keep the chao gardens, because muh chaos were the best
Problem is that they decided to go with even more setpieces in adventure 2, streamlined the shit out of the levels as a result, worsened knuckles gameplay with the new radar mechanic and questionnable levels and had the tails/eggman levels.
And well, the followups after that speak for themselves.
Only generation managed to catch up for me as it actually had good level design and great replayability for that alone, but we'll probably never have old SA1 tails and knuckles gameplay to go with it
VidulaSaix
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I already know how good it is. Been playing since launch. I've been one of the people preaching for not just Pat but everyone to play it.
dying
Damn man, that's harsh.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Final Showdown? Yeah, I've got it. It was PS+ at launch.
DAREALGUMMY
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Saw that today. So amazing. Alex Riley keeps getting destroyed by Kevin Owens in the ring and on Twitter. I almost died laughing that Matt was quick to point out who it was for.
dying
Glitchesarecool
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I love that everyone's reaction to Mike's email was "he could just fucking talk to us."
Solid podcast this week. Lots of time to news and discussion.
Solid podcast this week. Lots of time to news and discussion.
the only actual contact info i got is Woolie tho.
DoktorEvil
Banned
So fucking talk to Woolie! GEEZ!
Best Friends Play Bloodborne (Part 27)
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/best-friends-play-bloodborne-part-27/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLxSI3LVaEk
http://superbestfriendsplay.com/video/best-friends-play-bloodborne-part-27/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLxSI3LVaEk
BUT I DON'T LIKE BOTHERING HIM!
This upsets me on a cosmic level
DoktorEvil
Banned
Play some KI with him and make him happy.
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