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Super Best Friends Thread 5: There's a Skeleton Inside Each of Us
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GlassEmpires
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Why did someone have to ruin my game of Mario? I was going for a speedrun
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Does it go something like this?
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/64/96/d0/6496d0624ff9b38a49b4b77e6cb2d1cf.jpg
DoktorEvil
Banned
PfantzyPantz
Member
That's why it's good, because it isn't actually exploitative fanservice. It's a part of the story and character and it actually serves a purpose.
I wanted to add that I didn't consider it fanservice, but it technically is, considering how most of MGS is sexy by design.
A great one is in early One Piece, where Nami seduces the dudes to steal the ship, but all she does is tug on her collar a bit and tells them to turn around so she can change clothes.
If it were modern One Piece, she would have stripped and bounced everywhere.
Man do I love pre- Grand Line One Piece.
Your avatar makes this perfection, I can't read that line without hearing it.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Maybe some of us do, aaron.
Somebody read my stuff once. Here's a quick visualization of what that was like.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Somebody read my stuff once. Here's a quick visualization of what that was like.
It must be super good if it turns people into Skeleton man.
Heh. Being suggestive is cool too.
Being blatant is terrible.
MGS has everyone in that world almost really good looking. Even AKIBA and Raiden are attractive dudes, so maybe your views of fan service and mine will vary slightly.
I treat fan service as anything intentionally produced to appeal to the fanbase and has no place within the world continuity, which can include gratuitous sex appeal and gratuitous violence.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Oh, bones were involved alright.
chaobreaker
Member
You're gonna get it Ippo
Well, I didn't wan to front load it too much with detail, since the entire first Chapter could have easily turned into an Exposition dump.
Though I do think I'm better writing in more current settings. I think my best work was the 9 chapter long story. Though that's actually because it's been in and out of edits and actually got enough reviews for me to be aware of some of its shortcomings.
It felt like there wasn't enough to leave anything for the imagination.
You could try the writing style of having a later scene happen in chapter 1 as a hook and then chapter 2 is slightly heavy on the setting.
How old is the chapter you linked?
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Oh hell yes, they finally got a gun in Call of CthulhuCoTE.
Took you guys forever, I was hoping you'd get to at least the big
battle.
Yeah, MGS3 is probably my favorite MGS next to the first one SO GODDAMN GOOD. So good.
I can't help it, I am an MGS megafan in fact I probably won't change my avatar after The Phantom Pain releases, why you might ask? Fuck you, that's why.
CoTE. Took you guys forever, I was hoping you'd get to at least the big
Shoggoth
Yeah, MGS3 is probably my favorite MGS next to the first one SO GODDAMN GOOD. So good.
I can't help it, I am an MGS megafan in fact I probably won't change my avatar after The Phantom Pain releases, why you might ask? Fuck you, that's why.
Hmm, let me think. About 8 months old, that may not sound too old, but when I'm learning new stuff every 3 to 4 weeks I guess it's a big difference. I mostly just clean up grammar on my old stuff and not much else.
RecursiveFault
Banned
High school DxD, why you so good.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Still haven't watched it, but I was told the ED had loli twerking and had to watch.
That and To Love Ru just don't give a fuck.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Fun fact, mother 3 and I believe MGS3 are the only games to make me cry
Ic ic. Would you rewrite it all if you wanted to?
Because it caters to everyone. People who want the extra large, the large, the medium, and the small.
except avoid the kiddie size.
Woah, woah, woah... NEVER forget about Maken-ki.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Demo is best waifu.
RecursiveFault
Banned
It's tropey as fuck, but it's fun. Also tits. The loli is best girl.
I haven't seen any of To Love Ru, but my understanding is that it's more attempting to be comedy romance? I'll take my sleazy shonen.
*approval nod*
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I fucking love highschool DXD, its just so freaking entertaining when it should have no reason to be
I like to ride his jambo jet.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Name one scenario where this statement is not true.
Well that's the problem, some stuff I would keep and other stuff I wouldn't but it would mess with the flow of the chapter. Since it would be two different styles of writing and what not. So either I would have to rewrite it all or none of it.
Though I'm more interesting on how you think about the characters and conversations.
I thought I gave okay detail of the dinning hall.
PfantzyPantz
Member
I just say that about MGS because Kojima and Yoji wanted every design to be sexy, be it male, female, or machine.
But yeah I'm of the same mindset about it as you. Which is why I never like dealing with these fangly interweb terms, you can never know if the other person has the same definition as you.
Yeah, MGS3 is probably my favorite MGS next to the first one SO GODDAMN GOOD. So good.
I can't help it, I am an MGS megafan in fact I probably won't change my avatar after The Phantom Pain releases, why you might ask? Fuck you, that's why.
I share every opinion you said brother
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ive watched the first season of to love ru, and its def a comedy harem romance thing, but from what I know, it later goes into a more shonen(well seinen really) where there are more fights and is more story focused then it use to be kinda like medaka box(btw read medeaka box, so good). At the same time it gets raunchier and raunchier to the point that its a legit wonder how the author gets away with borderline porn
RecursiveFault
Banned
I can give you a thread of people you can hate: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=515852&page=1
DoktorEvil
Banned
Mother 3 man. Nintendo would make so much money from a VC or handheld release in NA :/
Earthbound made me tear up badly. So did MGS4.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Oh ho ho, I already cried those tears. I think I posted in there, but I'd never defend loli shit, that's just begging to get banned.
PfantzyPantz
Member
You can add me to that list
And I was so sad when I found out about To Love Ru. I loved me some Black Cat, only to find out that the author went on to make that
RecursiveFault
Banned
Hm. Thanks for confirming. Sounds like it's less my cup of tea, but I may check it out sometime maybe, I guess, probably not.
There's the fine line where it's child characters or just body types.
The latter is awesome.
That ED that Aaron linked had a very, very surprising amount of fluid animation. I wonder how much money they spent on that.
RecursiveFault
Banned
More than you'd think, and less than you'd hope.
Actually that's top tier for the show, but somehow it has a half decent budget. It rarely looks bad outside of some occasional bad frames that are kinda common.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
The clearly child shit just creeps even me out. Petite is another matter all together.
DoktorEvil
Banned
loli is attractive?? In what world is that ever so?
Big eyes creep me the fuck out and so do child-like bodies.
Loli artstyles definitely would prevent me from playing a game though and it's a shame because there are plenty of good games out there that use that artstyle. I just can't get over the whole idea of looking pre-pubescent.
RecursiveFault
Banned
. This is as much as I can say about it. It's not looking like kids, that's just weird.
zedreamcast
Member
Itll also get you on a list you probably dont wanna be on
RecursiveFault
Banned
Oh and as far as bug eyes, Dok:
No, dear god this is unrelated to the loli discussion don't think this is that.
DoktorEvil
Banned
GAF AFTER DARK!
writing fan service seems like a challenge unto itself. It's very close to toeing the line between regular fiction and erotic fiction if it's not written right.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I agree. It's over!
And I do think you should give it a try. It's a great learning experience for any writer and can help your style grow, since you'll have a better understanding of another aspect of what people enjoy in writing.
You want creepy!!! Go back to the time we started posting sonic fan art. That shit is the weirdest shit to me.
At that point you might as well overhaul the entire thing. Start from scratch, unless you are happy with what you have so far.
It felt like all the characters didn't have much personality, but that was probably due to it being chapter 1 and the conversations being short. Some of the characters sounded too similar? The little bits of explanation between each dialogue was weird.. It's like it's trying to inform the reader as a weird 3rd party being explained what's happening? Ruins some of the immersion imo.
Eh, fanservice or ecchi aren't forbidden topics on GAF or this thread. No one's posting lewd images. It's fine.
DoktorEvil
Banned
It's creepier when you look up your first name and "the hedgehog".
Dammit. That creeps me out so much man.
PfantzyPantz
Member
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I'm cute?
Fair enough, though I hate writing in the first person. I think third limited is fine, though that was more of explaining the characters.
I might rewrite it sooner or later, I wouldn't mind showing you some of my better work though.
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