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[RecursiveFault]

The definition changes over time to reflect the current medium used for human expression.

Art encompasses a lot of mediums. Games are included in that medium.

Yup. I just think it's funny how people exclude all games, when many are at least on the level of most books and movies, and surpass many more. The subjective definition of art makes this argument much too silly.

Press X to JASON during sex

http://youtu.be/0t0uCWjQ6Og
Oh uh, Heavy Rain spoilers I guess.

Saying game aren't art is like saying that adding numbers together doesn't get you another number.

I actually follow you. It's like saying narrative, music, visuals don't all add up while each part can be considered art alone.

Gesamtkunstwerk is the real trick you want to achieve. I think the games that really put it off are few, but damn are they amazing.

 

[demidar]

Probably would have been banned in the majority of the western world if they didn't do it right.

I dunno, those God of War sex "scenes" were pretty wild.

 

[UnderWaterTree]

since the are video games art thing was brought i think the Nostalgia Critic made a nice video on it
http://youtu.be/0mVFgwFfKfw

 

[RecursiveFault]

since the are video games art thing was brought i think the Nostalgia Critic made a good video on it
http://youtu.be/0mVFgwFfKfw

This video hurts me. I hate the "games aren't quite there yet".

I at least like the rebuttals in this video. http://youtu.be/ZV1u8FMsb5I

 

[UnderWaterTree]

This video hurts me. I hate the "games aren't quite there yet".

I at least like the rebuttals in this video. http://youtu.be/ZV1u8FMsb5I

i don't agree with it 100% but i do like that he looks at it from a movie standpoint
one more thing video games are art its a fact you can't dance around it

 

[Oberon]

You should really play it.

I avoid playing games or watch movies that get universally praised and are suppose to be deep and emotional. I don't seek games for those reasons.
Is it a fun game? How's the actual gameplay?

 

[demidar]

I avoid playing games or watch movies that get universally praised and are suppose to be deep and emotional. I don't seek games for those reasons.
Is it a fun game? How's the actual gameplay?

Heh, I have a contrarian streak as well.

 

[Banana Aeon]

I avoid playing games or watch movies that get universally praised and are suppose to be deep and emotional. I don't seek games for those reasons.
Is it a fun game? How's the actual gameplay?

The gameplay complements the story and tone perfectly. It's rough, and doesn't feel 100% comfortable, but the game is better for it.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I avoid playing games or watch movies that get universally praised and are suppose to be deep and emotional. I don't seek games for those reasons.
Is it a fun game? How's the actual gameplay?

You ride a horse to find a collosi, and then climb the things several times your size and stab them. It's a sort of action puzzle thing,

I actually understand the reaction to the "hipster" media. It's worth playing though, the game is much, much less pretentious than people would make you think it is.

 

[DXLelouch153]

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

 

[Glitchesarecool]

Why the hell did Liam have to tell that story on the podcast?

Now I'm extremely sad and my day is ruined.

 

[croten]

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

.

Why the hell did Liam have to tell that story on the podcast?

Now I'm extremely sad and my day is ruined.

What story?

 

[Banana Aeon]

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

What!? Preorder legit cancelled until I get more spending money.

 

[Alfebit]

What story?

About the woman and her cat.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Apologies if I just came across as a crazy asshole with that topic. I shouldn't argue on the internet when I'm having a bad day.

 

[croten]

About the woman and her cat.

I haven't listened to the podcast yet

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

What story?

Spoiler

The cat dying due to the owner being dead in her locked house

I haven't listened to the podcast yet

You should. They shilled Gaim super hard.

 

[croten]

Spoiler

The cat dying due to the owner being dead in her locked house

Oh, that's what I think about when I beat Binding of Isaac. Who is going to look after him now that his mum is dead? he's just a baby

 

[UnderWaterTree]

Why the hell did Liam have to tell that story on the podcast?

Now I'm extremely sad and my day is ruined.

http://youtu.be/vsrPrR1QpBI maybe this will help

 

[demidar]

Yeah, only difference being that GoW characters are adults. Didn't some countries in the EU ban DOA dimensions because some of the characters in the game were underage? Or was that proven to be nonsense?

Ooh that's true, I forgot about that.

Apologies if I just came across as a crazy asshole with that topic. I shouldn't argue on the internet when I'm having a bad day.

Everyone has bad days, don't worry about it.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Oh, that's what I think about when I beat Binding of Isaac. Who is going to look after him now that his mum is dead? he's just a baby

Spoiler

Look between the lines, and you will find the truth to Isaac.

 

[Glitchesarecool]

What!? Preorder legit cancelled until I get more spending money.

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

Fucking really?

 

[DoktorEvil]

Apologies if I just came across as a crazy asshole with that topic. I shouldn't argue on the internet when I'm having a bad day.

No need to apologize. Don't apologize for an opinion. I'm glad you substantiated your opinion though.

IMO, any human expression, no matter how vapid an shallow it may be, can be constituted as art. It's all about the context.

In other news, Gamestop didn't have a single copy of Watch_Dogs...
Kind of surprised, frankly. Isn't Watch Dogs hailed to be this brand new IP that's a must have?

 

[Oberon]

It's great! JUST PLAY IT ALREADY!

I'll do it when we get a new trailer of the last guardian.

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

Calm down, where are you getting this info anyway?

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

man this fucking sucks
What in the actual fuck were GameFreak thinking removing Battle Frontier
unless its a Day 1 Patch its all over and i might just get Fantasy Life Instead
hopefully someone who isnt a reviewer confirms this shit soon
and whoever even thought of the Maison should be kicked in the balls

Why would they ever remove content they created from the game ready to be shipped?Someone must be trolling with that info

 

[Banana Aeon]

Fucking really?

Emerald's Battle Frontier is the main reason why Emerald is my favorite Pokemon game. I also need to free up some funds for Black Friday/Christmas.

 

[360pages]

The idea of art being defined is rather silly, because even porn an be art, because no matter what it still takes time and effort to film or draw it. Almost anything that is created to insight emotion whether it be joy, titillation, frustration and relief counts as art if it falls in to their intention.

 

[DXLelouch153]

I'll do it when we get a new trailer of the last guardian.



Calm down, where are you getting this info anyway?

reviews http://www.usgamer.net/articles/pokemon-omega-rubyalpha-sapphire-versions-3ds-review
either the reviewer is an idiot or Gamefreak are idiots
the stupid Maison exists though -_-

 

[ultimax]

Emerald's Battle Frontier is the main reason why Emerald is my favorite Pokemon game. I also need to free up some funds for Black Friday/Christmas.

I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be in there

 

[Glitchesarecool]

Emerald's Battle Frontier is the main reason why Emerald is my favorite Pokemon game. I also need to free up some funds for Black Friday/Christmas.

But that's such a baby response to one thing being taken out. The Maison filled the same exact role.

 

[RecursiveFault]

No need to apologize. Don't apologize for an opinion. I'm glad you substantiated your opinion though.

IMO, any human expression, no matter how vapid an shallow it may be, can be constituted as art. It's all about the context.

In other news, Gamestop didn't have a single copy of Watch_Dogs...
Kind of surprised, frankly. Isn't Watch Dogs hailed to be this brand new IP that's a must have?

Wait on any system?

Everyone has bad days, don't worry about it.

Thanks to both of you guys.

 

[DXLelouch153]

But that's such a baby response to one thing being taken out. The Maison filled the same exact role.

the Maison is inferior to the Battle Frontier in every way
youd understand if you played Emerald
man how did we go from BW/BW2 to this
who fucked up?

 

[Banana Aeon]

In other news, Gamestop didn't have a single copy of Watch_Dogs...
Kind of surprised, frankly. Isn't Watch Dogs hailed to be this brand new IP that's a must have?

Gamestop saved you $60. Watch_Doges is terrible.

With the extreme lack of effort put into the Wii U port (How the fuck does the PS3 version have a higher resolution?) This was probably a low priority release. Ubi probably didn't even make that many copies.

Also, they probably shouldn't have released the game on the same day GTA V returns. Not good business sense.

 

[Squishy3]

Fuck Liam's story on the podcast. At least Woolie turned it around with centipedes

 

[croten]

I'll do it when we get a new trailer of the last guardian.

Why the fuck not?

 

[DoktorEvil]

Wait on any system?

Thanks to both of you guys.

Wii U.

I wanted to own a copy and hope that the value of the rarity would shoot up in 5-10 years.

Gamestop saved you $60. Watch_Doges is terrible.

With the extreme lack of effort put into the Wii U port (How the fuck does the PS3 version have a higher resolution?) This was probably a low priority release. Ubi probably didn't even make that many copies.

Also, they probably shouldn't have released the game on the same day GTA V returns. Not good business sense.

I heard things about Aiden and I'm not looking forward to playing as an asshole.

But a game that's Ubisoft large in scale and set in modern day intrigues me.

Fuck it, I'll keep playing GTA4.

 

[demidar]

Fuck Liam's story on the podcast. At least Woolie turned it around with centipedes

The death of pets is the one thing that gets me :'(

 

[Banana Aeon]

But that's such a baby response to one thing being taken out. The Maison filled the same exact role.

Well, if by fill the exact same role, you mean battle gauntlets, instead of unique, and creative challenge arenas, yeah, the Maison filled that exact same role.

 

[DXLelouch153]

man now someone says npcs allude to it existing
i dont know what to believe anymore
one things for sure if they do that and dont include it in some way their huge assholes

 

[Glitchesarecool]

the Maison is inferior to the Battle Frontier in every way
youd understand if you played Emerald
man how did we go from BW/BW2 to this
who fucked up?

Then don't buy it. Problem solved.

Well, if by fill the exact same role, you mean battle gauntlets, instead of unique, and creative challenge arenas, yeah, the Maison filled that exact same role.

All I ever cared about was the battle gauntlets to test my 3v3 teams so yeah, it filled the exact same role

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

man now someone says npcs allude to it existing
i dont know what to believe anymore
one things for sure if they do that and dont include it in some way their huge assholes

I just really want it for the rental battles tbh. Maison just seems like a battle tower. Is it different?

 

[Loco4Coco]

I just wanted to face the Frontier Brains again...

 

[Banana Aeon]

I swear to god, when that game finally gets a release date, I'm going to shove it in everyone's face.

There is already a release date.

And it is

Spoiler

never.

Spoiler

Because it is cancelled.

 

[DXLelouch153]

Battle Frontier being added somehow(or that reviewer being an idiot) has a better chance than The Last Guardian being released

 

[croten]

I swear to god, when that game finally gets a release date, I'm going to shove it in everyone's face.

Dude I will gladly take it but it's never going to happen

 

[JooseBawcks]

I swear to god, when that game finally gets a release date, I'm going to shove it in everyone's face.

If that ever comes out it's going to be such a mess

 

[ultimax]

I just really want it for the rental battles tbh. Maison just seems like a battle tower. Is it different?

I have no clue what the maison is because I never finished X or Y, but as long as there's a place where you can battle/trade online then I'm happy

 

[Squishy3]

The death of pets is the one thing that gets me :'(

Pets dying of old age isn't that bad, but Liam's story is just sad. At least I hopefully have Dan Ryckert making fun of Jose Canseco selling the finger he shot off on eBaY on the bombcast.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I swear to god, when that game finally gets a release date, I'm going to shove it in everyone's face.

It's ok Maragi.

You're NUCCCCLLLEEEEEAAARRRRRR!

 

[Glitchesarecool]

At least I hopefully have Dan Ryckert making fun of Jose Canseco selling the finger he shot off on eBaY on the bombcast.

I would bet money they'll handle it. It will make up for Dan's awful story last week.