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[Team Alucard]

As great as this game was, I eagerly await next year's Super Bowl match-up between the Giants and the Pats. Where Eli will blindly throw a pass that bounces off the FG crossbar, slips through Revis' hands, bounces off his big toe, and is finally caught by Odell Beckham Jr's thumb and middle finger in the back corner of the end zone for the game winning TD with 30 seconds left.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

he was so-so

2 tds - 2 ints

he was one rational play call away from losing that game

seattle handed him the trophy on a silver platter.

Brady had 4 touchdowns.

 

[Team Alucard]

1981: Bengals 3rd best offense, 12th best D
1984: Dolphins #1 offense, #7 defense
1988: Bengals #1 offense, #16 defense
1989: Broncos #8 offense, #1 defense

There is no comparison. Montana destroys brady, i'm sorry. Montana never had a turnover in a superbowl. Montana absolutely obliterated the #1 defense for the biggest superbowl blowout in NFL history.

If you actually think brady is better than montana then you never saw montana play

Montana played in an era where the AFC was absolute trash. Literally 1 for 16 in SB wins by the AFC during that span.

 

[140.85]

Really good analysis from New York Times :

Here are the different point of views :



The pass is good when you consider Wilson's perspective, Lockette is free and the result should be a TD without a doubt. Lockette does not see anyone so Butler literally comes from the shadows and intercepts. Butler is a really good example to young players. He has given comments and stated that he prepared via watching tapes and knew exactly what was about to happen when the Seahawks players lined up. How about that from an undrafted rookie ;__;

I have to say I was wrong to criticize the play so harshly, then again this was my first Super Bowl ever as I've only watched soccer and Ice-Hockey throughout my life. Really starting to like this sport based on this one game.

This can't be said enough, but none of this matters to crestfallen Seattle fans or NE haters. They'll always claim the game was handed to to the pats to help them cope. The reality is the play wasn't nearly as dumb as they think went you take stock of everything happening at that moment. It could have been done at it wasn't they would have just ran it the next play after getting there run formation in the field.

 

[ntropy]

As great as this game was, I eagerly await next year's Super Bowl match-up between the Giants and the Pats. Where Eli will blindly throw a pass that bounces off the FG crossbar, slips through Revis' hands, bounces off his big toe, and is finally caught by Odell Beckham Jr's thumb and middle finger in the back corner of the end zone for the game winning TD with 30 seconds left.

or simply this

 

[spyder_ur]

i believe he got payed to throw that game.

No you don't. If so, he sucks at it.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Montana played in an era where the AFC was absolute trash. Literally 1 for 16 in SB wins by the AFC during that span.

Brady has played (and is currently) playing in an era where the AFC is trash and more importantly his division is absolute garbage so he basically gets a free bye every year.

 

[Skinny Pete]

There is no defending that call. Absolutely terrible. You run Lynch from the one and there's prob an 80% chance he scores. If not you have a timeout you can then pass. It's either a td or incomplete which leaves you with one final play where you can run it or pass it. Carroll worried about the clock for whatever reason and tried to be cute which bit him in the ass. Imo this will go down as the worst call in NFL and maybe sports history.

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

Does anyone have a link to the page or pages in this OT around the time or leading up to the last play in the game? Morbidly curious

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=979442&page=174

 

[Derpyduck]

1981: Bengals 3rd best offense, 12th best D
1984: Dolphins #1 offense, #7 defense
1988: Bengals #1 offense, #16 defense
1989: Broncos #8 offense, #1 defense

There is no comparison. Montana destroys brady, i'm sorry. Montana never had a turnover in a superbowl. Montana absolutely obliterated the #1 defense for the biggest superbowl blowout in NFL history.

If you actually think brady is better than montana then you never saw montana play

Montana also never had a salary cap. His SB teams were full of studs on both sides of the ball. Brady has done much more with much less than Montana ever had to. I watched Montana too, and he was awesome.

Brady has played (and is currently) playing in an era where the AFC is trash and more importantly his division is absolute garbage so he basically gets a free bye every year.

That's bullshit. Brady has never played a season that Peyton Manning wasn't competing against him in the AFC.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Brady has played (and is currently) playing in an era where the AFC is trash and more importantly his division is absolute garbage so he basically gets a free bye every year.

But he plays the best teams though.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Brady had 4 touchdowns.

ok i stand corrected

but i will say the mounting injuries to the seattle D made it a whole lot easier for him to do what he pleases

simon was the weak link and got taken advantage of repeatedly

 

[Derpyduck]

ok i stand corrected

but i will say the mounting injuries to the seattle D made it a whole lot easier for him to do what he pleases

simon was the weak link and got taken advantage of repeatedly

Yes, and the Pats were forced to make zero moves based on their deficiencies. Seriously people need to stop with that insane "boohoo they were hurt" nonsense. It's February. There isn't a healthy team in the league coming out of September.

 

[LyleLanley]

ok i stand corrected

but i will say the mounting injuries to the seattle D made it a whole lot easier for him to do what he pleases

simon was the weak link and got taken advantage of repeatedly

 

[spyder_ur]

Yes, and the Pats were forced to make zero moves based on their deficiencies. Seriously people need to stop with that insane "boohoo they were hurt" nonsense. It's February. There isn't a healthy team in the league coming out of September.

Bingo. And the guy they list during the game was their nickle back. A good one, but still.

Pats executed really well.

 

[Team Alucard]

Brady has played (and is currently) playing in an era where the AFC is trash and more importantly his division is absolute garbage so he basically gets a free bye every year.

AFC is 8-6 in Super Bowls during Brady's career as a starter.

And Brady has completely and utterly annihilated the best teams in his conference during his career. Whether it be Manning's Colts, LT's Chargers, or the Steelers who have had some of the best defenses in NFL history, Brady has absurd levels of dominance over every AFC team that's not the Ravens.

 

[CitizenCope]

AFC is 8-6 in Super Bowls during Brady's career as a starter.

And Brady has completely and utterly annihilated the best teams in his conference during his career. Whether it be Manning's Colts, LT's Chargers, or the Steelers who have had some of the best defenses in NFL history, Brady has absurd levels of dominance over every AFC team that's not the Ravens.

Kaboom!!!!!!!

 

[Spinluck]

1981: Bengals 3rd best offense, 12th best D
1984: Dolphins #1 offense, #7 defense
1988: Bengals #1 offense, #16 defense
1989: Broncos #8 offense, #1 defense

There is no comparison. Montana destroys brady, i'm sorry. Montana never had a turnover in a superbowl. Montana absolutely obliterated the #1 defense for the biggest superbowl blowout in NFL history.

If you actually think brady is better than montana then you never saw montana play

Pretty much this.

Don't waste your breath or time, FMT.

JoMo tooooo chill.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

There isn't a healthy team in the league coming out of September.

your right there isnt, but when players start dropping like flies in a game as big as the sb against the best offense in the league your gonna be ripped to shreds.

so as my last post in this thread

1. Montana
2. Bradshaw
3. Brady

 

[levious]

I don't recall Joe Montana narrowly winning any of his Super Bowls by being rewarded by the other team making the biggest boneheaded call of all time.

Montana threw a would-be interception that was dropped on the game winning drive against Boomer's bengals. It's rarely brought up but it was a terrible throw that should have ended the game.

I still think Montana is the best.

 

[Megalosaro]

AFC is 8-6 in Super Bowls during Brady's career as a starter.

And Brady has completely and utterly annihilated the best teams in his conference during his career. Whether it be Manning's Colts, LT's Chargers, or the Steelers who have had some of the best defenses in NFL history, Brady has absurd levels of dominance over every AFC team that's not the Ravens.

4 and 6 if those teams aren't a brady team though

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

AFC is 8-6 in Super Bowls during Brady's career as a starter.

And Brady has completely and utterly annihilated the best teams in his conference during his career. Whether it be Manning's Colts, LT's Chargers, or the Steelers who have had some of the best defenses in NFL history, Brady has absurd levels of dominance over every AFC team that's not the Ravens.

i mean the afc as a whole, not their records in superbowls. the NFC in the 80's was a bloodbath. niners, redskins, giants, bears. these were monster teams. brady hasn't done anything approaching as impressive as what montana did in chicago/1988 in the NFC title game.

what has the AFC had during bradys run? i guess the chargers and colts? i'm not diminishing what brady has done because you play who you play but i think montanas resume is much more impressive, especially his superbowl resume

 

[Sanjuro]

Gronk and Kraft in da club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNfaA9C1qAo&feature=youtu.be

 

[LyleLanley]

4 and 6 if those teams aren't a brady team though

Wouldn't it be 4 & 4?

 

[Half and half]

Gronk and Kraft in da club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNfaA9C1qAo&feature=youtu.be

haha awesome.

 

[spyder_ur]

i mean the afc as a whole, not their records in superbowls. the NFC in the 80's was a bloodbath. niners, redskins, giants, bears. these were monster teams. brady hasn't done anything approaching as impressive as what montana did in chicago/1988 in the NFC title game.

what has the AFC had during bradys run? i guess the chargers and colts? i'm not diminishing what brady has done because you play who you play but i think montanas resume is much more impressive, especially his superbowl resume

You should've watched the Super Bowl yesterday. Guy was nearly perfect in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl against one of the best defenses of the last couple decades.

 

[Dragon]

4 and 6 if those teams aren't a brady team though

Wouldn't it be 4 and 4?

 

[JABEE]

FMT, You brought this fate on yourself when you made an unholy alliance with evil.

Look at your childhood heroes! Montana leeching off of the forehead for free chain pizza! J-Gar working as a QBs coach in the CFL begging for a job as water boy in the NFL!

How could you abandon Him?!

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

You should've watched the Super Bowl yesterday. Guy was nearly perfect in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl against one of the best defenses of the last couple decades.

montana beat the bears 28-3.
on the road.
in horrible weather.
against a bears team that was statistically better than this years seahawks D.

so yes, it was more impressive

 

[Haloid1177]

your right there isnt, but when players start dropping like flies in a game as big as the sb against the best offense in the league your gonna be ripped to shreds.

so as my last post in this thread

1. Montana
2. Bradshaw
3. Brady

How do you put Bradshaw ahead of Brady it makes no sense.

 

[ICKE]

That's a pretty cool graphic. Make no mistake though, that was the worst playcall I have ever seen and if you start watching football more I still don't think you'll see one that dumb in the near future. DBs jumping routes like that isn't out of the ordinary.

But looking at how the players lined up it was a solid way to score the decisive TD, without a well prepared Butler that was always going to be a game winner.

I have to use soccer as an example, because this was basically my first ever NFL game. The goalkeepers usually expect that players will put some power behind their penalties and aim towards one corner. A player who has nerves of steel can maneuver around that, even do the outrageous thing like Francesco Totti back in 2000 against Holland (semi-final, one of the craziest games ever).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0VtO7cwfDk

But when the goalkeeper studies you, and understands your tendencies, it can backfire and then you look like the biggest fool on this planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6LqnUlYgmw

Doesn't necessarily make the play itself bad, it just looks so simple and embarrassing for the attacker when your adversary has prepared well for that specific setplay.

 

[Spinluck]

Are we really comparing defenses then to defenses now? The league was pretty different.

This Seahawks team is just a throwback to how things used to be. Even then it was worse for the QBs and WRs...

 

[Mr.Swag]

Are the ratings out?

 

[krae_man]

If Eli hadn't pulled two rabbits out of his ass and Brady was 6-0 with one being a perfect season, Montana people would still claim Montana is better.

 

[DrForester]

I accept that there will never be a consensus about the GOAT. So for me it's more a think about who's in the conversation. Arguments can be made for both Brady and Montana.

 

[The Albatross]

he was so-so

2 tds - 2 ints

he was one rational play call away from losing that game

seattle handed him the trophy on a silver platter.

Didn't he throw 4 touchdowns...?

 

[Revolver]

Are the ratings out?

TV by the Numbers reports that "In time-zone adjusted fast nationals, which are still subject to further adjustment due to post-game celebration coverage in the Boston market, the Super Bowl delivered 114.4 million viewers, ranking as not only the most-watched Super Bowl, but the most-watched telecast overall in U.S. history."

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I accept that there will never be a consensus about the GOAT. So for me it's more a think about who's in the conversation. Arguments can be made for both Brady and Montana.

Right now the debate is real and legit.

If Brady get's a fifth ring there is no debate.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Saw this on Twitter

 

[The Albatross]

i mean the afc as a whole, not their records in superbowls. the NFC in the 80's was a bloodbath. niners, redskins, giants, bears. these were monster teams. brady hasn't done anything approaching as impressive as what montana did in chicago/1988 in the NFC title game.

what has the AFC had during bradys run? i guess the chargers and colts? i'm not diminishing what brady has done because you play who you play but i think montanas resume is much more impressive, especially his superbowl resume

While I'm not ready to say Brady is without a doubt greater than Montana, the parity arguments about today's league shouldn't be a strike against a player or team who has been elite for 13, 14 years now. Also plenty of talent in the afc in these years, Colts, steelers, Ravens, chargers, Denver, and of course new England.

 

[Mr.Swag]

TV by the Numbers reports that "In time-zone adjusted fast nationals, which are still subject to further adjustment due to post-game celebration coverage in the Boston market, the Super Bowl delivered 114.4 million viewers, ranking as not only the most-watched Super Bowl, but the most-watched telecast overall in U.S. history."

Thanks.
Damn superbowl is a national holiday basically

 

[The Albatross]

Thanks.
Damn superbowl is a national holiday basically

I've been pushing for presidents day to be the Monday after the super bowl for years. It should be.

 

[Spectral Glider]

Even as a Steeler and Bradshaw fan, I can admit Montana was the best. There really is no other answer.

 

[spyder_ur]

I liked the way Mike Greenberg put it on Mike & Mike this morning. You can debate who the best quarterback of all time is and there's a subjective element to that, but Brady is the most accomplished QB in NFL history at this point.

 

[LyleLanley]

Even as a Steeler and Bradshaw fan, I can admit Montana was the best. There really is no other answer.

There is the correct answer, Brady.

 

[spyder_ur]

I've been pushing for presidents day to be the Monday after the super bowl for years. It should be.

It makes way too much sense. You wouldn't have to move the Holiday that far, and the Super Bowl is probably the biggest cultural event in our country.

Plus the founding fathers would've loved football.

 

[Spectral Glider]

There is the correct answer, Brady.

I was comparing QBs that don't cheat.

 

[LyleLanley]

I was comparing QBs that don't cheat.

In that case the correct answer is Brady.

 

[ICKE]

It makes way too much sense. You wouldn't have to move the Holiday that far, and the Super Bowl is probably the biggest cultural event in our country.

Plus the founding fathers would've loved football.

Adopting ideas from England and eventually rebelling and evolving the sport? I suppose you can make that argument.

 

[Spectral Glider]

In that case the correct answer is Brady.

And the question was, "What SB QB has a vagina?"