I don't think browner is getting credit for that play. If he doesn't meet Kearse at the line as strongly as he does, Butler isn't able to take a straight line to the spot where the ball ends up. I think presnap Ninkovich vacates the middle as well, almost like the patriots wanted, not just expected, this exact play.
Super Bowl XLIX |OT| The Butler Did It
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I don't think browner is getting credit for that play. If he doesn't meet Kearse at the line as strongly as he does, Butler isn't able to take a straight line to the spot where the ball ends up. I think presnap Ninkovich vacates the middle as well, almost like the patriots wanted, not just expected, this exact play.
Shit tier was a bit harsh I'll admit, but let's be honest he doesn't have nearly the level of surrounding personnel as a player of his talent would have in, say, Germany.
People say the same thing about Christiano Ronaldo, and he is truly surrounded by shit tier players. The world cup is a team effort. No one can argue however, that any single player on that German team is better than either Messi or CR7.
Has anyone seen this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgepmUrbHyg
Wow. There's losing with grace as a fan, and then there's that lol.
Ibra is probably the worst in that regard. Such a good player, but lol at being stuck with Switzerland National Team.
I would say just try and get citizenship in France or something but that kinda double crossing is what led to so many good Polish players "defecting" to Germany
I would say just try and get citizenship in France or something but that kinda double crossing is what led to so many good Polish players "defecting" to Germany
LyleLanley
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I'm still amazed we almost got Tyree'd again.
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Also, enough cannot be said about that Hightower tackle to stop Marshawn from getting in on the second to last play.
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Also, enough cannot be said about that Hightower tackle to stop Marshawn from getting in on the second to last play.
Tragicomedy
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As someone who grew up in Argentina and have followed their football teams my entire life...they were amazingly talented this World Cup. It was their best squad talent-wise since 1990.
They were also the oldest average team of the tournament, and it ultimately caught up with them. They lost Di Maria to injury and played a hobbled Aguero in the second half. A fully fit Argentine squad likely beats Germany, though it would still have been a very close match. Even their keeper and defensive line, who we all expected to play like garbage, were incredible the entire tournament.
None of that diminishes Messi's legacy placement as one of the greatest ever.
Tragicomedy
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It's 2015. People post fake videos on Youtube.
Yeah that play only works if Browner crushes Kearse, which he did.
The Manningham catch is being thrown around like it was a miracle play ala Tyree/Kearse...but it wasn't nearly as improbable. It was a great play and a great catch, in the biggest game of the year but those plays happen a few times every sunday during the year.
Plays like Tyree's catch with a man draped on your back ripping at the ball rarely happen, catches like Kearse having the ball bounce around his feet keeping it from hitting the ground rarely happen. Manningham's catch happens much more frequently. It was a dagger and covered just as much yardage, but not nearly as improbable.
LyleLanley
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Of note, Butler played the Kearse catch extremely well.
The Portugese national team is hardly "shit tier". It's an excuse people make for Ronaldo not delivering at these tournaments. The World Cup is a team effort though, you are absolutely correct about that.
GregLombardi
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http://youtu.be/YwmP0UwHL9k?t=8m57s
This compilation video of reactions was particularly crazy, but the ending just floored me. Not sure if people saw it, so linking it.
This compilation video of reactions was particularly crazy, but the ending just floored me. Not sure if people saw it, so linking it.
The Albatross
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If I had to watch the game with any of those people I'd puke. "What do you mean he's not in yet??"
boiled goose
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In team sports one good leader makes everyone around them better and they are able to adapt to their surroundings. They make a HUGE difference.
Pats didn't even make the playoff without Brady when he was injured.
What did Chicago do without Jordan?
Napoli won seria A with Maradona as did Argentina but neither has won since.
Personal talent is not the only thing the goats bring to their team. They bring inspiration, drive, leadership, ambition. Individual players can have a measureable effect on a team beyond their individual contributions.
Pats didn't even make the playoff without Brady when he was injured.
What did Chicago do without Jordan?
Napoli won seria A with Maradona as did Argentina but neither has won since.
Personal talent is not the only thing the goats bring to their team. They bring inspiration, drive, leadership, ambition. Individual players can have a measureable effect on a team beyond their individual contributions.
I think its different in football.
Miami might not have won the NBA championship without Lebron but they woulda still been a very solid, playoff contender team.
But a quarterback in football is probably the single most game changing and controlling position in all of sports. You can lose a lineman, a reciever, a corner, a TE. And you'll feel the sting. But losing a QB can cripple a team.
boiled goose
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Yes. the qb in football has the biggest individual impact in all team sports.
My post was a response to the claim that you can't talk about goat individual players in team sports. My point is you totally can, and being able to rally a team to win is part of what makes the greats great.
Aguero had no impact on the World Cup, and Di Maria got injured in the knockout stages.
Of course, if Higuain could finish a golden chance, he'd have his World Cup already, but meh.
Sounds odd. A ball at 1 PSI is essentially flat. I assume you mean 2 PSI under, which he reported the other day. And the ball that was far under just happened to be the ball that the Colts had in their possession.
I found the link that mentions it. Sorry, I first heard it on the radio and I just got home.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs
DrForester
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That doesn't even say one was one pound over just...
"Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum."
If it's true that the one and only outlier was the ball that Indianapolis got their hands on, I do hope the sports media begins dragging the Colts through the mud with rumors of them tampering with it.
I am on my iPad. Sorry, my point as the Deflategate is looking less like an issue at this point.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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I just want it to die already, Colts player infroms our ball is flatter then usual after a pick and now we hear the Colts had the lowest psi ball in there possesion.
The Albatross
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Holy crap, I just listened to the Around the NFL podcast from Sunday night (FYI, if you don't listen to this, it's the best football podcast around. Hell, the best sports podcast)... And NFL media's Dan Hanzus reported on what Earl Thomas said to him.
Basically, post game interview Earl Thomas -- who was the darling of the press all week -- was being a major douche when reporters asked him questions. Like, apparently a press guy would ask a question and Thomas would reply something along the lines of "How much can you bench? Is that microphone the heaviest thing you can lift?" And ,well, to Dan Hanzus, NFL media reporter, Dan asks him what the state of shock was on the Seattle sideline when they had the high of that amazing catch followed by the low of the interception, and Thomas replied, "As shocked as your wife was when she first saw your penis ... [pause] ... because it's so small"
Holy shit.
*DERP* IT was Michael Bennet sorry!
Basically, post game interview Earl Thomas -- who was the darling of the press all week -- was being a major douche when reporters asked him questions. Like, apparently a press guy would ask a question and Thomas would reply something along the lines of "How much can you bench? Is that microphone the heaviest thing you can lift?" And ,well, to Dan Hanzus, NFL media reporter, Dan asks him what the state of shock was on the Seattle sideline when they had the high of that amazing catch followed by the low of the interception, and Thomas replied, "As shocked as your wife was when she first saw your penis ... [pause] ... because it's so small"
Holy shit.
*DERP* IT was Michael Bennet sorry!
people love these guys, they're just a bunch of bitter assholes.
Delta Assault
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More then a pitcher in baseball? *looks at 2014 World Series*
I dunno about that.
FrenchMovieTheme
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well you do have to feel for earl because when you take PEDs and then get tested for HGH the week of the superbowl you can only hope the masking agents do their job. just more undue stress for earl!
Oh this is golden, Scarface style: Bill Belichick's Speech After Winning Super Bowl XLIX "The NFL World Is Yours"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycUWeHG-W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycUWeHG-W0
Megalosaro
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The more I think about it, the more I can't help but feel this win feels the best, as a Pats fan.
I became a Patriots fan in 1999 when I was about 11 years old. It was because I liked the uniform colors, the mascot and all that superficial stuff. I didn't really understand the game at the time, but I enjoyed watching it.
That first Super Bowl win definitely felt great. It was an emotional game all the way through. You had these scrappy dudes playing against a team that was supposed to clobber them. But then the Patriots won... barely. A great game with a great conclusion and a great narrative. But I was too young to really appreciate what winning the super bowl meant. By time the next two super bowls rolled around, I had bought into the hype. I had built up Tom Brady and Belichick as these unstoppable figure. Football gods. OF COURSE they would win those games. Brady is the greatest quarterback in the league. It was only natural that Brady would lead the offense to a win.
I still believed that and then some until the 2007 season. That season was fucking amazing. I was so arrogant in my belief that the Pats would steam roll the Giants that I probably came off as a dick. I thought Brady and Belichick, with a supporting cast of greats like Randy Moss, would be unbeatable against a mediocre team like the Giants. That Eli Manning was a joke version of his older brother. But that joke brother pulled a heartbreaking win out of his ass. The giants may have had a mediocre season, but their hearts were in it that game.
Then of course the next season Brady had his injury. And several more disappointing years. With another Super Bowl loss under their belts, I no longer held any illusion that the Patriots were invincible. Don't get me wrong, I fully believed they could pull it off each season. But reality had set in.
None-the-less, I was pretty hyped for this game. The Seahawks are a team that I respect. I still think Pete Carroll is a fantastic coach (after all, I became a Pats fan under his tenure). And he has some marvelous players on his team. I knew this game was going to be a hard game, and that the Seahawks would fight their damnedest for the win. I really had no idea which way the game would go. The fact the game came down to a gambit by Bill Belichick keeping the clock running, causing the Seahawks to blink was fantastic though.
I've wanted this win for a long time now. It feels so good.
I became a Patriots fan in 1999 when I was about 11 years old. It was because I liked the uniform colors, the mascot and all that superficial stuff. I didn't really understand the game at the time, but I enjoyed watching it.
That first Super Bowl win definitely felt great. It was an emotional game all the way through. You had these scrappy dudes playing against a team that was supposed to clobber them. But then the Patriots won... barely. A great game with a great conclusion and a great narrative. But I was too young to really appreciate what winning the super bowl meant. By time the next two super bowls rolled around, I had bought into the hype. I had built up Tom Brady and Belichick as these unstoppable figure. Football gods. OF COURSE they would win those games. Brady is the greatest quarterback in the league. It was only natural that Brady would lead the offense to a win.
I still believed that and then some until the 2007 season. That season was fucking amazing. I was so arrogant in my belief that the Pats would steam roll the Giants that I probably came off as a dick. I thought Brady and Belichick, with a supporting cast of greats like Randy Moss, would be unbeatable against a mediocre team like the Giants. That Eli Manning was a joke version of his older brother. But that joke brother pulled a heartbreaking win out of his ass. The giants may have had a mediocre season, but their hearts were in it that game.
Then of course the next season Brady had his injury. And several more disappointing years. With another Super Bowl loss under their belts, I no longer held any illusion that the Patriots were invincible. Don't get me wrong, I fully believed they could pull it off each season. But reality had set in.
None-the-less, I was pretty hyped for this game. The Seahawks are a team that I respect. I still think Pete Carroll is a fantastic coach (after all, I became a Pats fan under his tenure). And he has some marvelous players on his team. I knew this game was going to be a hard game, and that the Seahawks would fight their damnedest for the win. I really had no idea which way the game would go. The fact the game came down to a gambit by Bill Belichick keeping the clock running, causing the Seahawks to blink was fantastic though.
I've wanted this win for a long time now. It feels so good.
That little juggle Malcolm does with the ball right before he starts moving forward still makes me nauseous.
NFL Network is replaying the game in about 20 minutes. I think it will have NFL Soundtrack enabled too.
RedAssedApe
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any audio for this or timestamp when its mentioned during the podcast? lol
I must say, I am not really that surprised. Your talking about a team (not all of them, I like Wilson a lot) who are total douches. Grabbing their junk or shitting a football after a touchdown. Or better yet starting a brawl at the end of the Super Bowl with 20 seconds left. Irvin being the first player ever ejected from a Super Bowl. What a bunch of punks.
Could you IMAGINE the uproar if it were any Patriot players who did that?
DrForester
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With all this "who's the best" talk, lets ask this.
Is this one of the best Superbowls ever? Close game from beginning to end. Ending with not one, but two surprise moments.
Is this one of the best Superbowls ever? Close game from beginning to end. Ending with not one, but two surprise moments.
I mentioned it way earlier in the thread, but this is seriously a huge schtick of the Seahawks is just being complete assholes to reporters just trying to do their jobs. Baldwin is by far the prime example, but it runs throughout all of them (and I'll exclude Marshawn from this even because he's not a straight-out asshole about it, just a special case). You might argue that for Baldwin it was "pumping up the team" with an us-against-the-world mentality (yeah, doesn't really work when you're the defending champs facing the most hated team in American sports), and even then I'd say he totally crossed the line berating and belittling people, but the total lack of class has just gotten worse since their loss. I had no issues with cheering for the Pats in the SB even though I hate them otherwise. At least with them acting like a jag is mostly on the coach.
Millionaire athletes berating reporters who make <$50k/year for asking questions is not a good look. Maybe time to lay off Adderall.
They're winning. That's the big difference. Justin Tuck was on the radio over the week prior to it and they were comparing how Pete Carroll lets his guys be themselves or something along those lines; afterwards, brought up how coaches like Tom Coughlin run things how they want to and certain players don't like buying into it as much. Some players don't get away with it, primarily due to position (wide receiver, so guys like Moss and Owens were always on the spotlight win or lose). Media is begging for a reaction in some form.
NFL Network's re-airing it now. The description of the game is "Classic". But I think they call all SB's classics. It definitely had a lot of drama from both teams at the end. But then again, every NE SB under Bill has been close until the end. The Rams game was my favorite NE win, but this is a close second.
No kidding.
GhostRidah
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Brady was mic'd on Inside the NFL tonight, should be on patriots site or the nfl site tomorrow I guess.
Thank god Patriots are all classy players like Edelman. He only went on a rant about Steve Young and Trent Dilfer after winning a SB.
Imagine if they lost?
So your saying pointing out that someone was wrong and out of line with comments is wrong? How is that classless? Did he shit on the microphone while doing it? Or did he call him names ? Your stretching and just ripped in half.
If they lost, Dilfer and Young were still wrong.
Yeah, imagine a WR sticking up for his QB.
Gronk's hands dwarf the football. He's a big dude!
I'm not sure if it's because I'm high,but Vereen really reminds me of Kevin Faulk. That one handed catch to start the drive was insane, and he made that look easy. So damn clutch. Brady looked like old Brady on the last two drives. Stood tall, and delivered strikes. I think those two drives were the best of his career. Just insane how good he was.
Alligatorjandro
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My soul left after that play
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