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[Bentendo]

EXACTLY! Despite it's faults...its still a Mario game..which means it's a lot more fun then most games.

I mean I wouldnt have put up with that Blue Coin shit with any other video game mascot.

Ok..sorry to derail..back to Galaxy 2...

Yes, let's get back on track... umm...

Well, I pre-ordered this game about a week ago...

*looks around*

Sunshine was brilliant. Anyone who says otherwise was too focused on the fact that the stages all had a similar theme despite that fact being one of the game's highlights. The blue coins were so fun to find - it's not a crime to see how many each stage has online or in a strategy guide. The camera was NOT an issue and F.L.U.D.D. was genius.

But I digress. In Galaxy 2, the mere fact that Pinatas are in the game imply that the developers are proud of what they created and that a sizable group of fans have shown their support for the Mario classic.

 

[WillyFive]

Mario Sunshine's problem was that it was too hard. It was a masterpiece, but it was also too frustrating.

 

[Peff]

it's not a crime to see how many each stage has online or in a strategy guide.

Sure, but those 24 stars could have been three more stages Still, I do love Sunshine, it's just that "spray one of the lamps outside the hotel" or "use the damn boat in the volcano to reach the eight coins around you" weren't as fun as the rest of the game.

And, uh, Galaxy 2.

Yes.

CURSE YOU, NoE THE PUBLISHER!

 

[Bentendo]

Mario Sunshine's problem was that it was too hard. It was a masterpiece, but it was also too frustrating.

I agree that it would be an extremely daunting task to receive all the stars. I say "would be" because it's the only 3D game in which I was unable to get all 120 stars. I beat the game but the blue coins were just too hard to collect (despite being one of the game's pros).

 

[Amir0x]

Sunshine was hard, hm? This is why gamers keep receiving such pussy games today! Even my little cousin Alex got all the shines, and he was only 9.

Perseverance, brothas!

<3 Sunshine so much

 

[farnham]

deleted by request

 

[Vinci]

Sunshine was hard, hm? This is why gamers keep receiving such pussy games today! Even my little cousin Alex got all the shines, and he was only 9.

Perseverance, brothas!

<3 Sunshine so much

Yeah, Sunshine was a really, really great game. By any standard.

 

[Bentendo]

Sure, but those 24 stars could have been three more stages Still, I do love Sunshine, it's just that "spray one of the lamps outside the hotel" or "use the damn boat in the volcano to reach the eight coins around you" weren't as fun as the rest of the game.

Hmmm, I guess I do see your point. It probably would have been better to separate them from the stars altogether and sort of make them a post-120 star game, because I do have to agree that compared to the regular stars they aren't nearly as fun.

But, I'd have to say the same thing about the prankster comets in Galaxy. Some of them were fun like the purple coin or racing challenges but others, like trying to get through a stage within a certain time or going through a stage without getting hurt once were just annoying (to me at least).

 

[Amir0x]

BLASPHEMY!

is the whole mario 64 remake thingy comming out of this vid..??

It's definitely not blasphemy to have no interest in shallow sport mini-game compilations.

Super MARIO GALAXY is the reason Wii exists. let us zen in this truth

Yeah, Sunshine was a really, really great game. By any standard.

I love so many of the things it did. I loved the focused vacation theme, thought it was brilliant and creative. I love FLUDD, thought it added a layer to the many different acrobatics Mario could perform. Further, I loved the FLUDD-less segments, they were some of the most brilliant Mario platforming ever. I liked the amount of secrets. I loved the pacing.

I basically just didn't like the camera and the voice acting.

 

[WillyFive]

It's definitely not blasphemy to have no interest in shallow sport mini-game compilations.

Super MARIO GALAXY is the reason Wii exists. let us zen in this truth

The Wii exists because of Wii Sports. Mario Galaxy would still have existed if we got the Gamecube 2.

 

[Amir0x]

No, Wii Sports merely gave the Wii a chance to become the Super Mario Galaxy machine. Wii Sports only purpose was to deliver time to get Super Mario Galaxy. Certainly, it has no merits as a game.

 

[JavyOO7]

I should have learned my lesson from prior game threads... never read them until after you beat the game. People openly talking about spoilers. Great. =/

 

[farnham]

I basically just didn't like the camera and the voice acting.

so how was the voice acting in galaxy ? :lol :lol

 

[Peff]

But, I'd have to say the same thing about the prankster comets in Galaxy. Some of them were fun like the purple coin or racing challenges but others, like trying to get through a stage within a certain time or going through a stage without getting hurt once were just annoying (to me at least).

Yeah, I agree with that. It was an attempt at making the final stretch of the game harder but to be honest it wasn't quite that difficult (everyone remembers Coins Over Luigi but after a handful of tries you already knew which route to take). Are these in SMG2 too?

 

[Amir0x]

Yeah we should respect people who dont wish to see Mario Galaxy 2 spoilers.

Still, it's amusing the idea of Mario spoilers...

Mario is out in space, there is yoshi, Bowser fucks shit up, you fight him, there is crazy themes and more space faring adventuring.

It's always the same old with a different coat of paint, maybe a new power up. But I understand.

 

[Bentendo]

It's definitely not blasphemy to have no interest in shallow sport mini-game compilations.

Super MARIO GALAXY is the reason Wii exists. let us zen in this truth

I totally agree.

Spoiler

Thank God Wii Sports Resort was actually a brilliant, non-shallow sports game and the only way to play a decent, pseudo-Pilotwings sequel.

 

[Vinci]

I love so many of the things it did. I loved the focused vacation theme, thought it was brilliant and creative. I love FLUDD, thought it added a layer to the many different acrobatics Mario could perform. Further, I loved the FLUDD-less segments, they were some of the most brilliant Mario platforming ever. I liked the amount of secrets. I loved the pacing.

I basically just didn't like the camera and the voice acting.

Fucking nailed it. I loved FLUDD; it made it fun to just dick around in the environments. Hell, I didn't even focus on the goals many times, I'd just find an area that allowed me to run around and/or jet-ski around using FLUDD, and I'd be in heaven.

Also agree with the FLUDD-less stages, as they were brilliantly designed and indicative of the genius that would be unleashed on Galaxy years later.

The camera only bothered me in certain areas, but the voice acting? Yeah. Horrid.

 

[farnham]

i really hope galaxy 2 has some better music then galaxy 1

not that galaxy 1s music was bad or anything (gusty garden is still the best piece of VGM eva)

but compared to Sunshines Music it felt lacking

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Sunshine's biggest problem was how broken up the pacing was. The water pack made *everything* take forever. The Hover jumps took a huge amount of time and were ridiculously safe, and aiming the goddamn nozzle... oh man. There was also something about either the levels or how Mario moved too, way too much stuttering and stopping, and fritzing. Might have been a camera issue too.

Not to mention some of the "mini-game" shines were just godawful.

 

[Bentendo]

Yeah, I agree with that. It was an attempt at making the final stretch of the game harder but to be honest it wasn't quite that difficult (everyone remembers Coins Over Luigi but after a handful of tries you already knew which route to take). Are these in SMG2 too?

The difficulty wasn't the problem with most of the prankster comets, it just felt like the programmers said "you know what would be easy to do? How about we just put a timer on this stage and pretend it's a new star!"

And as far as I know, they

Spoiler

unfortunately

do appear in Galaxy 2.

 

[Amir0x]

I totally agree.

Spoiler

Thank God Wii Sports Resort was actually a brilliant, non-shallow sports game and the only way to play a decent, pseudo-Pilotwings sequel.

it's amusing because even the pilotwings game was infinitely inferior to a real pilotwings game. Because like all mini-game compilations, each segment is not given the thought or time of dedicated products, and as such their individual components waver and collapse beneath any legitimate scrutiny.

But I digress. Super Mario Galaxy is in its own universe, blessedly free from such taints.

Fucking nailed it. I loved FLUDD; it made it fun to just dick around in the environments. Hell, I didn't even focus on the goals many times, I'd just find an area that allowed me to run around and/or jet-ski around using FLUDD, and I'd be in heaven.

Also agree with the FLUDD-less stages, as they were brilliantly designed and indicative of the genius that would be unleashed on Galaxy years later.

The camera only bothered me in certain areas, but the voice acting? Yeah. Horrid.

Yup. I loved finding ways to make getting to objectives shorter; FLUDD really extended my acrobatics to a point where experimentation was really the goal. So many times I would figure out these unique paths to different shines, and I'd be fucking fist pumping by the end.

I would >love< to see Super Mario Galaxy 3 have FLUDD segments.

 

[[Nintex]]

This week I'll head over to NoE to play about 1/3 of the retail version of Super Mario Galaxy 2.

Yay for that, booooo! for the fact that they have a full version of the game ready and won't release it yet because they want to see how badly Sin & Punishment 2 bombs

I did my part and bought Sin & Punishment 2.

Sunshine was great, I loved messing around in Delphino island, too bad some areas weren't tested properly and there's some bad design decisions here and there but overall it was a great and most of all fun game.

 

[farnham]

Not to mention some of the "mini-game" shines were just godawful.

so untrue

 

[farnham]

it's amusing because even the pilotwings game was infinitely inferior to a real pilotwings game. Because like all mini-game compilations, each segment is not given the thought or time of dedicated products, and as such their individual components waver and collapse beneath any legitimate scrutiny.

this is not a wii sports thread. but thats exactly the reason why i love wii sports so much. each mini game does feel like it could be its own game. wii sports (seriously all the 5 games were made really well) more so then wii sports resort.

 

[Bentendo]

it's amusing because even the pilotwings game was infinitely inferior to a real pilotwings game. Because like all mini-game compilations, each segment is not given the thought or time of dedicated products, and as such their individual components waver and collapse beneath any legitimate scrutiny.

But I digress. Super Mario Galaxy is in its own universe, blessedly free from such taints.

I do see your point. However, Wuhu Island to me was an infinitely more appealing world than its SNES/N64 predecessor and the act of collecting "information points" was very fun and something I hope they include in the "true" sequel.

In fact, I kind of which they'd include something like that in Galaxy. It'd be kind of fun to go around the game's world and look for certain points that, when touched, you are given information on the landmark. It kind of reminds me of the scan system in Metroid Prime and the commentary system in Valve's games (the former of which I think should be included in every title )

 

[Amir0x]

each mini game does feel like it could be its own game.

hahaha what. God you're right I'm gonna Pm you my response. Absurd.

In fact, I kind of which they'd include something like that in Galaxy. It'd be kind of fun to go around the game's world and look for certain points that, when touched, you are given information on the landmark. It kind of reminds me of the scan system in Metroid Prime and the commentary system in Valve's games (the former of which I think should be included in every title

I loved the Metroid Prime scan system. Was a way to allow substantive universe building without being intrusive. Also, it's a "at your own leisure" type of story telling.

 

[Kard8p3]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/sb4j/action/index.html

haven't seen it discussed so I just wanted to make sure you all knew that the japanese site was updated last night with a couple new videos.

 

[Vinci]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/sb4j/action/index.html

haven't seen it discussed so I just wanted to make sure you all knew that the japanese site was updated last night with a couple new videos.

Just release the damn game already. Holy shit.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Mario Sunshine's problem was that it was too hard. It was a masterpiece, but it was also too frustrating.

wat

 

[Bentendo]

this is not a wii sports thread. but thats exactly the reason why i love wii sports so much. each mini game does feel like it could be its own game. wii sports (seriously all the 5 games were made really well) more so then wii sports resort.

The original Wii Sports is one of the worst Nintendo EAD games ever created. I feel like we should get back on topic by talking about Galaxy 2 but before we do, let me just say: it's a fact - the original was terrible. Wii Sports Resort, on the other hand, wasn't. It was legitimately a good title with only a few hiccups (canoeing, basketball). I would love to see a documentary on the creation of Wuhu Island. Personally I think it would be very enjoyable to see how much work went into creating a world that, while new, is so appealing.

 

[MYE]

i really hope galaxy 2 has some better music then galaxy 1

not that galaxy 1s music was bad or anything (gusty garden is still the best piece of VGM eva)

but compared to Sunshines Music it felt lacking

wooooo-oooooo....we must be stepping into the Twilight Zone guys!

 

[Regulus Tera]

Super MARIO GALAXY is the reason Wii exists. let us zen in this truth

The Wii was created so that companies like Treasure could bake a delicious tres leches Sin and Punishment 2 cakes with vanilla pudding as frost.

I find the Galaxies to be more like the strawberries on top of the cake.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

It's kind of impressive what you guys are doing to this thread.

 

[MYE]

Hey farnham, go clean the fucking mess you made you know where.
You just spoiled the latest video to everybody on purpose, asshole D:

On Topic: This thread is going down the tubes

 

[Bentendo]

The Wii was created so that companies like Treasure could bake a delicious tres leches Sin and Punishment 2 cakes with vanilla pudding as frost.

I find the Galaxies to be more like the strawberries on top of the cake.

Vanilla pudding as cake frosting sounds delicious. But I agree: there seems to be a lot of unique games on the Wii that wouldn't be created for the other systems due to HD costs. The one that comes to mind more than any other is Little King's Story.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

I despise when hype threads turn into X game from the franchise was better than Y game in the franchise so forthcoming Z should be more like X and less like Y. It's Mario Galaxy 2, we didn't even expect to get this game at all a little over a year ago and now it's slowly outdoing its predecessor in every regard. Stfu and bask in the glory.

 

[farnham]

Hey farnham, go clean the fucking mess you made you know where.
You just spoiled the latest video to everybody on purpose, asshole D:

On Topic: This thread is going down the tubes

I deleted the vid. But it was linked somewhere else in the thread. Also I never intended to spoil anything. In fact the vid is published by nintendo themselves and is part of their marketing campaign.

wooooo-oooooo....we must be stepping into the Twilight Zone guys!

the twilight zone called personal preference

 

[Feep]

Yeah, guys, stop fucking this up. No one gives a shit about your own personal preference.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

July 1...

ugh, sorry, posted before I got to the end.

That eats balls.

Oh well, after my birthday then.

 

[Vinci]

People are discussing prior Mario games. I fail to see why this is so horrible when Galaxy 2 isn't out. We can't play it. Believe me, every single one of us would prefer to be playing and discussing it - but we can't so we don't. There's only so much media we can consume and discuss.

Trust this: Once the game is out, discussion of prior games (with the exception of maybe the first Galaxy) will come to a crashing halt. Relax.

 

[Anth0ny]

Mario Sunshine's problem was that it was too hard. It was a masterpiece, but it was also too frustrating.

I remember it was hard to play as a kid, but too hard? No. It was that perfect difficulty that challenged you just to the point where you knew you could do it, but it was going to take a couple of tries. When you finally did succeed, you felt like a god.

At least I did. Remember that stage where you had your FLUDD stolen for the first shine? Or the stage with the sting rays and a time limit? That was fucking tough, man. But rewarding

Also, sunglasses and Hawaiian shirt unlockable was awesome. Not as awesome as Luigi, but awesome nonetheless

 

[Shiggy]

Mario is out in space, there is yoshi, Bowser fucks shit up, you fight him, there is crazy themes and more space faring adventuring.

Thanks for ruining both the story and the game for me.

 

[farnham]

People are discussing prior Mario games. I fail to see why this is so horrible when Galaxy 2 isn't out. We can't play it. Believe me, every single one of us would prefer to be playing and discussing it - but we can't so we don't. There's only so much media we can consume and discuss.

Trust this: Once the game is out, discussion of prior games (with the exception of maybe the first Galaxy) will come to a crashing halt. Relax.

speaking of new media

this weeks nintendo week features mario galaxy 2

posted ?

 

[Kard8p3]

Just release the damn game already. Holy shit.

This is going to be the longest week ever.

 

[Rich!]

This is going to be the longest week ever.

Even longer considering quite a few people will probably be getting it delivered early/buying it from street date breaking stores.

 

[Sadist]

YYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS GALAXY 2 WOOHOO!!!

Spoiler

Am I doing it right?

 

[Oblivion]

So I just briefly glanced at the last 2 pages of this thread, and from what I gathered, there's supposed to be a Wii Sports remake in SMG2? :O

 

[Rich!]

So I just briefly glanced at the last 2 pages of this thread, and from what I gathered, there's supposed to be a Wii Sports remake in SMG2? :O

Not only that, but a cameo from Marcus Fenix.

 

[MYE]

So I just briefly glanced at the last 2 pages of this thread, and from what I gathered, there's supposed to be a Wii Sports remake in SMG2? :O

Wii Sports Resort

 

[farnham]

So I just briefly glanced at the last 2 pages of this thread, and from what I gathered, there's supposed to be a Wii Sports remake in SMG2? :O

psst