Davey Cakes
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Super Mario Galaxy 2 |OT| with >NEW< hat!
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Haunted
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Not gonna lie, after 10+ unsuccessful tries, I got a friend to help me get star 242 in Co-op. 
First try, too. The second player is so powerful in this game. :lol
Galaxy and Galaxy 2 perfected 3D Mario controls for me. The platforming has never been tighter, the controls never more fluid and responsive. The pinnacle of platforming controls as far as I'm concerned.
First try, too. The second player is so powerful in this game. :lol
True.Rash said:
Galaxy and Galaxy 2 perfected 3D Mario controls for me. The platforming has never been tighter, the controls never more fluid and responsive. The pinnacle of platforming controls as far as I'm concerned.
Foliorum Viridum said:
What green stars are you referring to exactly? Those in which you die because you cannot really see where to jump because there's no object for coordination? Those stars were not hard but badly designed. All the others were not really tough to get at all if you finished SMG with 242 stars.
Your opinion =|= Factual statement
Still I would like to know to which green stars you are referring.
Himuro said:
The last star is definitely harder than anything else in the game, but I can't agree that the second set is any difficult. A majority of them are very asinine, some require a bit more thought and skill but it's never really demanding. Maybe the ones that require using the blue floating stars things...
Haunted
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Grandmaster Galaxy has green stars, right?
There, done. Hardest stars in the game. I also thought the last green Stone Cyclone star was tough (and the first one delicious). I also struggled with the final green star on Boulder Bowl. The first green star on Haunty Halls Galaxy. The last green star on Shiverburn Galaxy(!!)
There, done. Hardest stars in the game. I also thought the last green Stone Cyclone star was tough (and the first one delicious). I also struggled with the final green star on Boulder Bowl. The first green star on Haunty Halls Galaxy. The last green star on Shiverburn Galaxy(!!)
And these are just off the top of my head.
Upon further reflection, many of the green stars are ingeniously placed and only reachable by triple-jumping, or extended wall-jumping. Which, arguably, creates an added challenge on top of the regular objective to make it through the level.
Haunted
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I think the added green stars are fantastic, and form a much better post-game reward than reaching the same stars with Luigiupandaway said:
(which, incidentally, is also possible in SMG2, making it factually superior by offering both options. )
)Gah, where's Anihawk when you need him! :lol
Playing NSMBWii instead of whining about which Galaxy is the best Galaxy.Haunted said:I think the added green stars are fantastic, and form a much better post-game reward than reaching the same stars with Luigi(which, incidentally, is also possible in SMG2, making it factually superior by offering both options.
Gah, where's Anihawk when you need him! :lol
This has always bothered me a bit. I wish the enemies looked more evil. A lot of the time I don't want to "kill" them because they look too cute or fuzzy.Haunted said:That would make the game even harder!
Nah, it's a second cursor. Able to stop hazards, stop moving platforms, stop and kill most enemies, able to collect coins and star bits for you.
This was the one I had in mind. Yes, it was actively trying to attack me, but I felt guilty when I stomped it. It just looked too colourful and the way it flutters or how it desperately tries to get away after it's stuck in the floor... I'm sorry little dude. :-(
It just wants to give Yoshi a kiss. :-(
You even have to kill its mom. Come on. :-(
Mario games are made so that even less skilled players are able to "beat" the game and see the ending and whatnot, but with lots of optional content for those of us looking for a serious challenge.Himuro said:
No.Haunted said:
Though it's not like the two stars in that galaxy aren't hard enough already.
Davey Cakes
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9-7 isn't that hard if you're just running through the level. It is only hard if you're trying to get the special coins.Haunted said:
Hell, I can just hold right nearly the entire time and get through the level merely by relying on good jump timing.
I lol'd at
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Anyway, last week I completed SMG1 for the first time, and soon after I jumped into SMG2, which I've finished but not 100% yet. I liked SMG1 better to be honest, SMG2 is still lots fun although pretty derivative, I was surprised how much it apes the first one right down to level design in some galaxies. It also lacks the wow factor of the first one but that's to be expected from a sequel like this which is more like an expansion pack to the first. I also liked the galaxies in the first game more. Too bad there's only one prankster comet per galaxy in here. Loved all of those in SMG1.
SMG1 = best game ever.
SMG2 = good sequel
double rainbow
Anyway, last week I completed SMG1 for the first time, and soon after I jumped into SMG2, which I've finished but not 100% yet. I liked SMG1 better to be honest, SMG2 is still lots fun although pretty derivative, I was surprised how much it apes the first one right down to level design in some galaxies. It also lacks the wow factor of the first one but that's to be expected from a sequel like this which is more like an expansion pack to the first. I also liked the galaxies in the first game more. Too bad there's only one prankster comet per galaxy in here. Loved all of those in SMG1.
SMG1 = best game ever.
SMG2 = good sequel
The Blue Jihad
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It's a shame that so many people here are so down on SMG2, especially compared to SMG1. I mean, SMG2 fixed or improved upon so many issues that plagued the first game.
The camera, for one. Mario games have always been about an innate, intuitive relationship between Mario and the player. In NES Mario, there was never any question how you would move. Left was always left. Right was always right. Jump was always jump. There was a consistency there. It was that consistency that allowed Mario to become an extension of the player, rather than some vague, remotely controlled avatar. In NES Mario, your brain easily made the connections between button presses and on-screen responses almost immediately.
That was not the case in SMG1. When the camera changed, your joystick directions changed, which means any little wave of the camera forces your brain to re-acquire spatial information and it completely removed me from the experience. Scripted fall off of a large pillar, only to have the camera land upside-down and my movement became reversed? Leave movement reversal to poison powerdowns in Bomberman, please.
Rarely have I experienced that kind of disorientation in SMG2. There were a few times, sure, but the camera position and movement were nowhere near as much of an issue in Galaxy 2.
Furthermore, SMG1 lacked the holy crap game-breaker moments in NES Mario. I mean, take, for example, the first time in SMB1 where you broke through the ceiling and were running in front of the score display. It was mind-blowing. And suddenly, within that one second, the entire game changed forever. NES Mario rewarded experimentation. It encouraged you to break the game. And it rewarded you when you thought outside the box...or in the case of SMB1...thought outside the level.
Big reason why I love, love, love SMG2 is because it brought back the experimentation and game-breaking. There have been a dozen times in my 80-star game where I've found some mind-blowing shortcuts...stuff that rivaled the score display stuff in SMB1. Hell, one of my favorite shortcuts happened extremely early on in the game, where
. You can jump
. At first I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be able to do that, then I discovered
. It was a moment I'd never had in SMG1.
Seeing people so down on SMG2 really is heart-breaking, because it's even more of a classic Mario game that SMG1 ever was.
The camera, for one. Mario games have always been about an innate, intuitive relationship between Mario and the player. In NES Mario, there was never any question how you would move. Left was always left. Right was always right. Jump was always jump. There was a consistency there. It was that consistency that allowed Mario to become an extension of the player, rather than some vague, remotely controlled avatar. In NES Mario, your brain easily made the connections between button presses and on-screen responses almost immediately.
That was not the case in SMG1. When the camera changed, your joystick directions changed, which means any little wave of the camera forces your brain to re-acquire spatial information and it completely removed me from the experience. Scripted fall off of a large pillar, only to have the camera land upside-down and my movement became reversed? Leave movement reversal to poison powerdowns in Bomberman, please.
Rarely have I experienced that kind of disorientation in SMG2. There were a few times, sure, but the camera position and movement were nowhere near as much of an issue in Galaxy 2.
Furthermore, SMG1 lacked the holy crap game-breaker moments in NES Mario. I mean, take, for example, the first time in SMB1 where you broke through the ceiling and were running in front of the score display. It was mind-blowing. And suddenly, within that one second, the entire game changed forever. NES Mario rewarded experimentation. It encouraged you to break the game. And it rewarded you when you thought outside the box...or in the case of SMB1...thought outside the level.
Big reason why I love, love, love SMG2 is because it brought back the experimentation and game-breaking. There have been a dozen times in my 80-star game where I've found some mind-blowing shortcuts...stuff that rivaled the score display stuff in SMB1. Hell, one of my favorite shortcuts happened extremely early on in the game, where
you're crossing a green bridge with a few Goombas here and there, and eventually reach a large 2D gravity portion built into a gigantic wooden frame
onto the wooden frame, bypassing the Thwomps and gravity wells, and drop right down onto the star
1-up mushrooms hidden in each of the far corners of the frame
Seeing people so down on SMG2 really is heart-breaking, because it's even more of a classic Mario game that SMG1 ever was.
AndyMoogle
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At least 5 times I've had Mario just starting running in circles, while holding straight in a direction, because of the camera flipping out a bit. Can't remember that happening ever in SMG1, and I spent more time on that game. Or maybe it happened and it never stuck in my mind since there wasn't really any major annoyances in there like in SMG2.
balladofwindfishes
Member
So I got 120 stars last night, and moved onto the
Some of those last few stars were brutal. My last one of the "normal" stars was 100 coins on Rainbow Road.
But today I went to record footage of Galaxy 2 at work, and the first few levels I breezed through. Wow, the learning curve in this game is excellent, because I remember those levels not being this easy.
But wow, Galaxy 2 late game is brutal.
Green Stars
Some of those last few stars were brutal. My last one of the "normal" stars was 100 coins on Rainbow Road.
But today I went to record footage of Galaxy 2 at work, and the first few levels I breezed through. Wow, the learning curve in this game is excellent, because I remember those levels not being this easy.
But wow, Galaxy 2 late game is brutal.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Why exactly?jett said:
nincompoop
Banned
I guess he prefers purple coin challenges that force you to comb over every square inch of a level to find the last coin you missed over purple coin challenges that actually test your platforming skills.GrotesqueBeauty said: