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Super Mario Galaxy 2 |OT| with >NEW< hat!
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Fantasy Final
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omg, just finished the galaxy
My fav so far.
Rightside Down. So awesome. 2D/3D hybrid with gravity switch, so great.
Easy_D said:
I saw a video of a speed run comet stage and it played this theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29QBkTtZ3k
othersteve
Member
Honestly, it isn't a rebuttal, but a justification; that's all. Though truly, that isn't even really possible beyond what I've already said in the review.BowieZ said:This certainly isn't the best reasoning to use when issuing a counter-rebuttal
I truly just think it comes down to creativity. This game gets it right in all the right ways, and as such, it's managed to captivate almost everyone who's spent ample time with it (and has taken the time to leave their opinion). Of course, most of those people are game critics like myself, as we're obligated to do so via our work.
But that doesn't mean our opinions are any different from that of the general public. And there has to be a reason why everyone feels that way.I'm sure there are some uptight elitist game critics out there as well, but that's not what this is about. We are supposed to play games like everyone else and honestly try to view their impact and measure their quality from as centralized a perspective as possible. You can't be 100% objective, but you can try. And try as I might, I simply could not find any means (as Gamespot's editors put it) by which to measurably improve Galaxy 2. That counts for a hell of a lot when you are so used to picking apart a product and measuring its deficiencies in context with the whole.
I really don't know what to say other than simply that not everyone can agree on anything. I would argue that Galaxy is still today one of the greatest games ever created--definitely in my top 15 anyway--and Galaxy 2 is, by all accounts, even better. What more can be said?
ForzaItalia
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That looks great and like you said, 480p so you know what you're getting.JRW said:I thought SMG looked great on my 50" Plasma, I mean, there's only so much you can expect with 480P.
Nose Master
Member
Allow me to cordially say: Fuck Yoshi's hot pepper controls. The level with the coin luma and the hot pepper controls made me want to die.
Game is awesome though.
Game is awesome though.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'm listening to the OST right now.....if I close my eyes....I can imagine that I'm playing it from the trailers.....
The Blue Jihad
Member
othersteve,
Haha, no doubt I'm in the minority. Thing is, it's not that I feel positive reviews are out of line (wait that doesn't make sense...I think I fixed it). I've in fact stated what I enjoyed about the game. Some parts of it are phenomenally good. But I take issue with the levels of hyperbole surrounding SMG1.
Hell, I take issue with any level of hyperbole where the game in question is treated as a sacred cow. Obviously there's no hard metric for reviews, but I firmly believe that if a review does not spend any amount of time on what a game doesn't do right...then it's not a worthwhile review.
Do I expect every review to be dry analysis? No. I don't expect anyone to be a robot. And I can't expect that, either.
But at the same time, whenever I see a review that awards a 10/10, or that remains glowingly positive the entire way through...I click next. I don't care about the 10/10s. I care about the 9/10s. I care about the 8/10s. You know, the reviews that review the game.
I do remain optimistic about SMG2, because from what I've read, Nintendo saw the same kinds of issues as I did with the first game. That's one of the great ironies, too...that Nintendo is harder on themselves than their fans. Where a fan says a Nintendo game is perfect, Nintendo's got a laundry list of fixes, changes, and improvements to make. So in a sense, I'm not in the minority. haha
Haha, no doubt I'm in the minority. Thing is, it's not that I feel positive reviews are out of line (wait that doesn't make sense...I think I fixed it). I've in fact stated what I enjoyed about the game. Some parts of it are phenomenally good. But I take issue with the levels of hyperbole surrounding SMG1.
Hell, I take issue with any level of hyperbole where the game in question is treated as a sacred cow. Obviously there's no hard metric for reviews, but I firmly believe that if a review does not spend any amount of time on what a game doesn't do right...then it's not a worthwhile review.
Do I expect every review to be dry analysis? No. I don't expect anyone to be a robot. And I can't expect that, either.
But at the same time, whenever I see a review that awards a 10/10, or that remains glowingly positive the entire way through...I click next. I don't care about the 10/10s. I care about the 9/10s. I care about the 8/10s. You know, the reviews that review the game.
I do remain optimistic about SMG2, because from what I've read, Nintendo saw the same kinds of issues as I did with the first game. That's one of the great ironies, too...that Nintendo is harder on themselves than their fans. Where a fan says a Nintendo game is perfect, Nintendo's got a laundry list of fixes, changes, and improvements to make. So in a sense, I'm not in the minority. haha
Fantasy Final
Member
Just wanted to show this. South Park?
Scythesurge
Member
Yeah it was during that fateful development that the Kardashians were accidentally let into Nintendo headquarters.Y2Kev said:
Nose Master
Member
Anyone else really impressed with the bosses this time around? They're actually kind of difficult. And well, cool looking. Galaxy 1 spoilers?:
(Fuck you, bouldergeist. You ugly piece of shit.)
othersteve
Member
Hey Blue,
I guess it's sort of like a new car. The moment you drive that new Honda Accord into your garage, you're thinking about how fantastic it is. Even after the new car smell wears off and the initial shock has subsided, it manages to continually please. It's logical, full-featured, and easy to manage. It's fun. The cars that remain impressive even after the Honeymoon period are those that are the best.
But it's improvable, and it always is when the next model arrives. That doesn't mean the previous one wasn't fantastic for its time, however.
That's how I look at it. Galaxy was damn near perfect. So close, it wasn't worth docking it points. That's rare for me, as I take a 10 seriously. In our metric, it doesn't mean "perfect", but rather "Legendary". So close it isn't worth bothering.
Galaxy 2 is, in fact, even better; improved. But that's what also makes it a 10: it's improved to the point where, 2.5 years later, it's still that impressive. Moreso, even, but that's difficult to quantify. At a particular point, the job of a true critic becomes partially emotional; partially intangible. That is, the point where you truly cannot find anything to meaningfully criticize about a product.
Can you believe that Galaxy 2 is the first game that's done that to me? Even 1 had a few camera hiccups here and there, though not enough to warrant a 9.9, as it was by far the best 3-D platforming game I'd played to date at that point. Gamespot clearly felt the same way, as they didn't even include a "The Bad" table as they invariably do. Other critics seemingly can't find anything measurably wrong with it either.
This game is that good. Maybe you won't enjoy it as much, somehow, but I sure as hell do. But seriously, I really do appreciate the discussion.
I guess it's sort of like a new car. The moment you drive that new Honda Accord into your garage, you're thinking about how fantastic it is. Even after the new car smell wears off and the initial shock has subsided, it manages to continually please. It's logical, full-featured, and easy to manage. It's fun. The cars that remain impressive even after the Honeymoon period are those that are the best.
But it's improvable, and it always is when the next model arrives. That doesn't mean the previous one wasn't fantastic for its time, however.
That's how I look at it. Galaxy was damn near perfect. So close, it wasn't worth docking it points. That's rare for me, as I take a 10 seriously. In our metric, it doesn't mean "perfect", but rather "Legendary". So close it isn't worth bothering.
Galaxy 2 is, in fact, even better; improved. But that's what also makes it a 10: it's improved to the point where, 2.5 years later, it's still that impressive. Moreso, even, but that's difficult to quantify. At a particular point, the job of a true critic becomes partially emotional; partially intangible. That is, the point where you truly cannot find anything to meaningfully criticize about a product.
Can you believe that Galaxy 2 is the first game that's done that to me? Even 1 had a few camera hiccups here and there, though not enough to warrant a 9.9, as it was by far the best 3-D platforming game I'd played to date at that point. Gamespot clearly felt the same way, as they didn't even include a "The Bad" table as they invariably do. Other critics seemingly can't find anything measurably wrong with it either.
This game is that good. Maybe you won't enjoy it as much, somehow, but I sure as hell do.
But seriously, I really do appreciate the discussion.Wow. What the fuck are you on about?othersteve said:Hey Blue,
I guess it's sort of like a new car. The moment you drive that new Honda Accord into your garage, you're thinking about how fantastic it is. Even after the new car smell wears off and the initial shock has subsided, it manages to continually please. It's logical, full-featured, and easy to manage. It's fun. The cars that remain impressive even after the Honeymoon period are those that are the best.
But it's improvable, and it always is when the next model arrives. That doesn't mean the previous one wasn't fantastic for its time, however.
That's how I look at it. Galaxy was damn near perfect. So close, it wasn't worth docking it points. That's rare for me, as I take a 10 seriously. In our metric, it doesn't mean "perfect", but rather "Legendary". So close it isn't worth bothering.
Galaxy 2 is, in fact, even better; improved. But that's what also makes it a 10: it's improved to the point where, 2.5 years later, it's still that impressive. Moreso, even, but that's difficult to quantify. At a particular point, the job of a true critic becomes partially emotional; partially intangible. That is, the point where you truly cannot find anything to meaningfully criticize about a product.
Can you believe that Galaxy 2 is the first game that's done that to me? Even 1 had a few camera hiccups here and there, though not enough to warrant a 9.9, as it was by far the best 3-D platforming game I'd played to date at that point. Gamespot clearly felt the same way, as they didn't even include a "The Bad" table as they invariably do. Other critics seemingly can't find anything measurably wrong with it either.
This game is that good. Maybe you won't enjoy it as much, somehow, but I sure as hell do.
Nose Master
Member
BowieZ said:^ might wanna spoiler tag that
Spoiler tag what? I was talking about boulder in the first, the fact there's bosses is a spoiler? :lol
Aaron Strife
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If you go throughout the game without dying or touching checkpoints, you'll get it when you get 241 stars.sphinx said:so what was the thing with the Sonic picture? Any truth to that? people keep posting it in other forums and sites...
JRW
Member
Wow anyone heard this tune yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilF4_YDRbGI&fmt=18
Fimbulvetr
Member
Fantasy Final said:Just wanted to show this. South Park?
Canadian Galaxy?
autobzooty
Member
Don't forget to protect your bellyache bulges.
Talladega Knight
Member
I have to get up off my ass and get to Gamestop to pick up my reserved copy.