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TheDinoman
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Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah I don't get it either.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
It came about because someone made a post on smashboards saying "let's call the cloud Randall" and everyone decided "sure why not"
That's exactly how it happened.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Did I say Melee origin stories were good
Wombo combo originated from some dudes yelling and getting hype over a guy losing a 2v1 to a team combo.
Based Modding Community
At least that sounds organic.
MrSaturn99
Member
would I be alone in saying yoshi's story melee is the most boring stage ever
also that cloud is terrible it never worked for me
also that cloud is terrible it never worked for me
OUCH
Best avoid reading the LN then.
As a Marth main, I don't see a problem with Yoshi's Story :3
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Smash has the dumbest tech names alongside the simplest tech names
We got Samus' extended grapple which is an extended grapple, Yoshi's parry which is shielding an attack with his weird-ass shield and counterattacking because lolyoshi, and Doc's up-B cancel which is basically him cancelling his up-B. Simple.
Then we got wobbling, we got the meteor smash/spike difference, we got waveshining and why is it even called a shine in the first place, omg don't get me started on the shine spike and how it's not a real spike but it isn't a meteor smash either so we call it a semi-spike but come on now, and did you guys know wavedash wasn't even a melee term, it came from Tekken and Mahvel because in those games you could do some silly crouch shenanigans and Smash dudes back then were like "we're absolute shit at making tech names that don't require much explanation so we're just gonna borrow this"
I need to never make posts at 3:45 in the morning again.
We got Samus' extended grapple which is an extended grapple, Yoshi's parry which is shielding an attack with his weird-ass shield and counterattacking because lolyoshi, and Doc's up-B cancel which is basically him cancelling his up-B. Simple.
Then we got wobbling, we got the meteor smash/spike difference, we got waveshining and why is it even called a shine in the first place, omg don't get me started on the shine spike and how it's not a real spike but it isn't a meteor smash either so we call it a semi-spike but come on now, and did you guys know wavedash wasn't even a melee term, it came from Tekken and Mahvel because in those games you could do some silly crouch shenanigans and Smash dudes back then were like "we're absolute shit at making tech names that don't require much explanation so we're just gonna borrow this"
I need to never make posts at 3:45 in the morning again.
TheDinoman
Member
It's really funny how we use the word "tilts" while the developers use "strong attack". I feel like tilt is more fitting because that's what you doing to utilize them, gently tilting the analog stick. "Strong attack" is a weird name because most tilts aren't, well, that strong.
It's in comparison to neutral A.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Although I get why they keep bringing Yoshi's Island back every single game despite it being a terrible stage, I kind of wish they had brought Yoshi's Story over in Brawl, instead.
Although the loss of a Super Mario World stage would have been disappointing, since it's such an important game and SNES stages are a rarity in Smash if your series isn't named Kirby. Even Metroid, a series defined by its SNES game, has a NES/GBA (it could be either) stage and a Wii stage...
This thread is infinitely more easier to find now that's it's in Community.
Although the loss of a Super Mario World stage would have been disappointing, since it's such an important game and SNES stages are a rarity in Smash if your series isn't named Kirby. Even Metroid, a series defined by its SNES game, has a NES/GBA (it could be either) stage and a Wii stage...
This thread is infinitely more easier to find now that's it's in Community.
Why aren't you using thread subscriptions?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Never got used to using them, and got into a routine of just searching for threads or using my recent history.
You can set it up so that you subscribe on posting.
Professor Beef
Banned
I always keep a tab open on my subs, and just open updated threads in new tabs. Most optimal way to browse gaf imo
balladofwindfishes
Member
Was watching Know Your Moves for Sheik and Zelda and realized it's kind of weird Sheik doesn't have a harp at all. It seems like a perfect victory animation or a taunt. Yet, she just sort of does generic ninja stuff.
This entire video is predicated on this guy's salt towards Sheik. But you know what?
I'm with him
Fuck Sheik. Dull character that was shoe horned into Smash past her expiration date. She manages to be irritating conceptually & competitively which is quite a feat.
Forreal, Fuck Sheik
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Melee Sheik is cool though right
Sheik is great and fun to play. Stay salty.
EDIT: I wouldn't mind if she was changed into Skyward Sword Impa though. Such a great design.
EDIT 2: I also disagree with his view on Zelda. It's true that she's bottom tier but I find her to be pretty fun to use. If they fixed Din's Fire she could be decent.
EDIT: I wouldn't mind if she was changed into Skyward Sword Impa though. Such a great design.
EDIT 2: I also disagree with his view on Zelda. It's true that she's bottom tier but I find her to be pretty fun to use. If they fixed Din's Fire she could be decent.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Smash has fucking Game & Watch lol. Sakurai will use any character who has a design that could lead to an interesting play style, stay mad.
NamikazeBurst
Member
People are complaining about Sheik of all characters? Why wouldn't you complain about a real bullshit character, Yoshi? Yoshi is such a poorly designed character. He has super armour on his jump which makes edge guarding him impossible. Everything he does is so fast and safe that hitting him on stage is also really hard. He is also super strong for some reason. Why does jab combo into almost every other move of his? That's so broken. I seriously don't know how anyone is able to play Yoshi and not want to commit Sudoku. Nerf him, Sakurai.
TheDinoman
Member
Yoshi has never really been a major threat in tournaments despite his annoyances. Sheik on the other hand was by far the best character in the game until she got nerfed earlier this year, and even then she's still ridiculously good.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Sheik is in the same spot Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff are in, in that they're not really relevant outside of Smash, but are super popular and relevant in Smash, so they hang around.
And that's not really a bad thing.
And that's not really a bad thing.
Which is dead.
Smash is a celebration of Nintendo's history. They're not really producing new Game & Watches or ROBs these days either.
Jigglypuff is but one of the many Pokémon whose claim to fame (the anime) has moved on and Sheik is but one of the many forms Zelda has taken.
My point being, Captain Falcon is not the same as the other two. Heck, if you want to point out his series is dead, their series are very much alive, so again, not really the same.
This is about them not being relevant outside of Smash. If anything, Puff is more relevant through cameos in the TV show.
They don't download the patch.
You can still start the game while downloading.
Never going to happen. Yoshi isn't even that great of a character so you're personally going have to work hard if you want to beat him. NEXT QUESTION!
Let's not get carried away. Captain Falcon is the beloved main character of a dead franchise, but that still puts him far above Sheik. The outcry from removing the good captain would be faaaaaaaaar greater than if you removed Sheik. Not that I would personally advocate it, but I honestly wouldn't give a hoot if she didn't return in Smash 5 because she sucks.
He makes a ton of false assumptions in his video, but I agree with the underlying message; Zelda's moveset is weak and bland compared to other characters in Smash. She has plenty of moveset potential in her boss fight in Twilight Princess alone, but none of that is explored at all. Instead of we get fantastic moves like her Fair/Bair, Down Tilt, and Down Smash and Dair which is just kicking. Bleh.
It would take more than buffing Din's Fire to fix the character because she's fundamentally flawed. Her having to land a sweetspot on most of her key moves is pretty much unforgivable, especially when better moves that don't that have that requirement exist (aka Sheik's entire moveset!)
TheDinoman
Member
Yeah, I feel like the only way we can really fix Zelda's moveset is by basically starting all over. Same thing with Ganondorf. Like Samus, they're both victims of Sakurai's "this character MUST have the same moveset for the rest of their time in Smash!" mentality, which is really hurting and holding these characters back.
Granted Samus is in a better position especially after the buffs she got, but like what PK Gaming said about Zelda, her moveset consists of a bunch of boring kicks and shit when she really should just be like Mii Gunner on steroids, firing all sorts of crazy projectiles
I will say that I think Project M made a decent compromise. For the most part she retains most of her usual physical combat moveset she's always had in Smash but they made little nice changes that at least make her feel more like Samus, most notably being able to turn into the morphball (they even went ahead and included the Boost Ball from Metroid Prime) and switching beam types.
This will never be in an official Smash game
Granted Samus is in a better position especially after the buffs she got, but like what PK Gaming said about Zelda, her moveset consists of a bunch of boring kicks and shit when she really should just be like Mii Gunner on steroids, firing all sorts of crazy projectiles
I will say that I think Project M made a decent compromise. For the most part she retains most of her usual physical combat moveset she's always had in Smash but they made little nice changes that at least make her feel more like Samus, most notably being able to turn into the morphball (they even went ahead and included the Boost Ball from Metroid Prime) and switching beam types.
This will never be in an official Smash game
Professor Beef
Banned
This will never be in an official Smash game
Probably for the best, since it looks hideous.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Yoshi not that great? Have you ever fought a good Yoshi? The character doesn't have a single flaw and it's like fighting the devil himself when you fight Yoshi. The only reason he isn't top 5 is because every Yoshi player sucks. Raptor? The Wall? Let's be real here. Sky? He's just a meme. If someone good picks up Yoshi, he will make everyone regret it!!!
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
FTFY fam, no need to thank me.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Look at those sweet ROB eyes
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
To be fair, they did have a plan for Alph but I guess they ran out of time.
Oh yeah. Are you still bothered by R.O.B glitches? That's big if it's still there.
You really think every Yoshi player sucks? It's 99.98% more likely that Yoshi simply isn't that good lol.
I'm telling you, you just need to get good at the matchup. Nobody's perfect; I suck at fighting DDD, for example.
I can give you an objective Yoshi flaw btw; his roll sucks ass and his grab game is poor.
EDIT: Wait a sec...i'm pretty sure you're a Yoshi main. Did you just bait me.
INSIGNIFICANT SPECK OF FECULENT SCUM! HOW DAAAARE YOU.
balladofwindfishes
Member
It's still there, and yes, I'm still bothered by it
Dimitri LH
Member
Was wondering when this would be posted lmao
I knew something was fishy so I went through his search history
And lo and behold it turns out he's a filthy Yoshi main
MrSaturn99
Member
Funny how I've never really cared about ROB's eyes yet I'm consistently bothered by Sonic's eternal derp smile.
Say all you want about Brawl's center mouth, but at least he actually emoted.
#nitpicks
Say all you want about Brawl's center mouth, but at least he actually emoted.
#nitpicks