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Professor Beef
Banned
i wish
Troubled Bat
Member
Those were the days.
balladofwindfishes
Member
After playing Color Splash, I was thinking about Paper Mario (someone I've wanted in Smash for a very long time)
If they added him, would they make him based on Color Splash/Sticker Star, would they make him just use generic hammer and jump attacks, or would they blend all 5 games in the series into a full moveset. For example, down air would be a ground pound from Super, with the pixl appearing for a second, while up special would make Parakarry appear? Neutral Special launches Bobbery, side special uses Kooper, stuff like that.
I think the latter idea would be the best way to do it, but I could also see PM being more based on SS/CS, or just using generic non-specific paper themed attacks.
If they added him, would they make him based on Color Splash/Sticker Star, would they make him just use generic hammer and jump attacks, or would they blend all 5 games in the series into a full moveset. For example, down air would be a ground pound from Super, with the pixl appearing for a second, while up special would make Parakarry appear? Neutral Special launches Bobbery, side special uses Kooper, stuff like that.
I think the latter idea would be the best way to do it, but I could also see PM being more based on SS/CS, or just using generic non-specific paper themed attacks.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I just realized something, nine years ago today, Sonic was actually revealed for Brawl.
Been nearly a decade since then, wow. I was about to become 11 years old when he was announced. Now I'm about to become 20.
god the brawl model was so awkward looking
MrSaturn99
Member
The long quills are weird, but I prefer center-mouth if only because as opposed to Smash 4 Sonic, Brawl Sonic actually emotes.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Those years were a really awkward time for Sonic, in general.
If there's going to be a Mario newcomer, I'd bet on Paper Mario indeed. Given how Sakurai went out of his way to reference the series' past in the 3DS Paper Mario stage, I'd hope the hypothetical PM character would also take cues from the whole franchise. Back in the day I imagined he'd also be able to cause damage via footstool jumps.
Btw I know my expectations should be tempered, but I'm watering at the mouth thinking of just how much content Smash NX could have if Sakurai is indeed useing Smash Wii U as a base and has added stuff to it ever since DLC finished, if not earlier.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
lol no. I remember that day he mentioned the story and it will never escape my head. So It's way worse than avatar bet. *coughgirlfriendproblemcough*
Professor Beef
Banned
I should clarify, since I didn't mention it when I first made that post, that I was NOT happy about that text because I thought it was something important. :lol
balladofwindfishes
Member
Damage on footstool and his Smash attacks being Action Commands instead of traditional charge attacks would make him pretty unique.
I actually just learned a few days ago the whale from PM64 was on that stage. I hadn't really noticed. It's a nice touch, although I wish the final Bowser part of the stage was the PM64 Bowser's Castle, just so the three main RPG games (at the time) would be referenced (not even sure how Super could be referenced at all in the stage, since it's in its own little world).
Professor Beef
Banned
PadWarrior
Member
I remember when he was revealed I thought man mega man should be next! Didn't know at the time I would have to wait 8 years for that to happen lol. That mega man trailer nearly bought tears of joy to my eyes.I just realized something, nine years ago today, Sonic was actually revealed for Brawl.
Been nearly a decade since then, wow. I was about to become 11 years old when he was announced. Now I'm about to become 20.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Everyone thought Mega Man was guaranteed after Sonic.
I'm pretty sure MM hype for Brawl was why he was the second character revealed for Smash 4. And it was pretty much the largest character reveal for Smash 4, until Cloud, imo.
Also in my opinion, Mega Man fits the best out of all of the third parties in Smash. He just feels like a Nintendo character. Probably because the majority of his games have appeared on a Nintendo console, and like half of them are still exclusive (like the entire Zero, ZX, Star Force and Battle Network series)
I'm pretty sure MM hype for Brawl was why he was the second character revealed for Smash 4. And it was pretty much the largest character reveal for Smash 4, until Cloud, imo.
Also in my opinion, Mega Man fits the best out of all of the third parties in Smash. He just feels like a Nintendo character. Probably because the majority of his games have appeared on a Nintendo console, and like half of them are still exclusive (like the entire Zero, ZX, Star Force and Battle Network series)
ShinRPGamer
Member
It helps that he's received better treatment from Nintendo than Capcom for a while now.
Professor Beef
Banned
Oh boy, not this shit again
TheDinoman
Member
So...here's something weird. You guys remember how Nintendo was supposed to pull the plug on regular tournies back on September 30th?
Well, it's been almost two weeks since then, and they're actually still running them for some reason. I just got back from winning one.
Well, it's been almost two weeks since then, and they're actually still running them for some reason. I just got back from winning one.
MrSaturn99
Member
That this was the prelude to one of SmashGAF's infamous nights of insanity the greatest thing.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Who gives a shit how Capcom "treats" Mega Man
He's at least getting acknowledged with compilation releases and the like
Show me where the F-Zero Legacy Collection is.
On a slightly related note, I played F-Zero AX at a local arcade and it was one of those machines where the seat is moving and shaking with the action. I had to buckle up, wow that was fun.
Edit: Beef let me just say my condolences man, and boy I hope SONIC IN BRAWL isn't a trigger phrase for you lol
He's at least getting acknowledged with compilation releases and the like
Show me where the F-Zero Legacy Collection is.
On a slightly related note, I played F-Zero AX at a local arcade and it was one of those machines where the seat is moving and shaking with the action. I had to buckle up, wow that was fun.
Edit: Beef let me just say my condolences man, and boy I hope SONIC IN BRAWL isn't a trigger phrase for you lol
balladofwindfishes
Member
Really? There was even backend maintenance on that day most people assumed was to remove them
Maybe they were only turned off in Japan?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yup, those avatar bets were fun. I wonder if some people would do it again in the future.
I'm really glad that Mega Man managed to make in Smash this time. Mega Man Vs. Samus Vs. Link, Vs. Mario Vs. Pac Man Vs. Sonic Vs. Cloud Vs. Ryu. It was great to see them in action in same game.
I only heard of the announcement being for Japan so maybe everywhere else gets some more time.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Yea, that's why I mentioned Japan, because the original announcement was in Japanese and never announced in any other language.
Maybe literally nobody in Japan plays the mode so they just canned it for them, while the other countries play it more. Smash is pretty massive in the US.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ex-Aid for smash~
Troubled Bat
Member
I'm definitely out of the Avatar Betting game, hahah.
Being able to get that big group of people satisfied me. xP
Yooo I won a decent amount of money for the first time 😱😱
About $70 for 7th at Emerald Coast Con last weekend, 80 man tournament I think. Tallahassee invaded Pensacola HARD, took 6 spots of top 8. Unfortunately the winner was a PR Sonic main from Georgia named CC. He was super good and beat everyone except our top Sonic main who's only ever lost that ditto to Manny and hasn't dropped a single set to another Sonic, including me. He got knocked out of losers by one of our own tho. 😪
About $70 for 7th at Emerald Coast Con last weekend, 80 man tournament I think. Tallahassee invaded Pensacola HARD, took 6 spots of top 8. Unfortunately the winner was a PR Sonic main from Georgia named CC. He was super good and beat everyone except our top Sonic main who's only ever lost that ditto to Manny and hasn't dropped a single set to another Sonic, including me. He got knocked out of losers by one of our own tho. 😪
The problem with this is Melee.
Nintendo would either have to:
1. Completely ignore Melee and piss of its legions of fans.
2. Make Melee HD and fragment the competitive user base even more than it already is.
3. Include Melee as we know it. That means tracking down Gamecubes, copies of Melee, CRTs, etc required to run tournaments. I'm sure the Melee community would be more than happy to help, but it's still messy. This also means Nintendo would gain nothing, as they make no money off of Melee now, which pretty much defeats the point of such a circuit.
fredrancour
Member
Finally watching some TBH6 stuff. Finished smash 4 crews. Kie totally surprised me. Japan's MVP for sure.
I feel like melee HD only fragments the userbase if they do an aggressive balance patch or make a crappy remaster where controls feel laggy and ruin movement. good players will show up to compete if their skill transfers over 1:1, and I think if the game felt that close to original melee then most locals would also wind up ok with people bringing in melee hd setups.
I feel like melee HD only fragments the userbase if they do an aggressive balance patch or make a crappy remaster where controls feel laggy and ruin movement. good players will show up to compete if their skill transfers over 1:1, and I think if the game felt that close to original melee then most locals would also wind up ok with people bringing in melee hd setups.
Geminosity
Member
I think the fragmentation wasn't among the melee lot but the melee and smash 4 lot. While there are some who'd play both there are definitely some who wouldn't: myself being someone who wouldn't play melee (HD or otherwise) for example.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Congratulations. $70 seems quite a bit for 7th place for an 80 person tournament. How much was the entry fee? I got 7th in a 133 person tournament and only got $33 (2.5%).
I've played CC in a few sets online and have never lost
fredrancour
Member
yeah, that's the current fragmentation. he was talking about a meleehd release causing new fragmentation to appear, though.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I tried to get into competetive Melee but the fact that only a few characters are actually viable just turned me off way too much...not to mention the roster seems lame after Brawl and the miracle that is the Smash 4 roster.
Professor Beef
Banned
i too enjoy cloud
i've actually been using charizard more and people are just completely unequipped to fight him RIP
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Really? What does Charizard do at a competitive level? I don't come across Charizard players at all and I have never looked into him tbh
Troubled Bat
Member
Cool Guy Sami is pulling a Masahiro Ito.
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Professor Beef
Banned
Gonna preface this by mentioning that anyone who is fast and has multihit moves like Fox, etc just laughs at him. But Charizard hits hard, moves deceptively fast, has a great spike, and has a kill throw and several kill moves. Fox and ZSS seem to be his worst matchups though. The Captain Falcon matchup, though?
FREE
Charizard is stupidly underrated, so this makes sense
Fun Fact: Roy & Joker actually share a Japanese voice actor.
Soon
Been using a lot of Charizard too in friendlies. Flamethrower -> dsmash 2 frame is so satisfying to pull off lol
Or killing people at like 70% at the edge with bair.
I think people are starting to notice the character a bit. That Japanese Charizard won a JP online tournament whose bracket included players like Ron (best Mario in Japan)
Anyone here practiced the Kameme MM footstool combo and have execution tips? Mostly trying to work on lemon game 90% of the time since it's so important but when I'm not practicing that I've been trying to learn the footstool combo.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
#PutTouhouInSmash
I think that's the point of that image. A VA joke.
Anyway I'd totally love an Atlus rep in Smash, be it him, an SMT protag or just Jack Frost.
Professor Beef
Banned
touWho
Congratulations. $70 seems quite a bit for 7th place for an 80 person tournament. How much was the entry fee? I got 7th in a 133 person tournament and only got $33 (2.5%).
I've played CC in a few sets online and have never lost
$25, since it was a full on convention. Tyler Hack's tournaments have a weird distribution where 1st gets less than you expect but 5th/7th get a lot more.
I've been playing Sonic since I started playing about a year ago.
Wait what did I do LOL
Edit - one of our best Tallahassee players is a Charizard main. Character is legit good. Not great but if you sleep on him you'll get bair'd to hell.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Awww, you are getting cold feet even it haven't started yet! ;P
Just kidding, I feel your pain tho.
$25, since it was a full on convention. Tyler Hack's tournaments have a weird distribution where 1st gets less than you expect but 5th/7th get a lot more.
I've been playing Sonic since I started playing about a year ago.
Congrats on your place. I presume that it's not recorded, right?
Thanks! They were actually - Typo House Games covered the stream and had a nice setup. These are my sets against Hallenium (a Rosa main from Alabama) and Day (who bopped me).
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WPLD7TpOX54
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FnYxIfa4csI
I also commentated Top 8! Here's Grand Finals between Typo | CC and Puma, our #1 player in Tallahassee. I'm in the blue shirt lol.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0bo89RLjsjo