Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Jazzy Network
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Hopefully revealed along with Dixie.
Wow Mac that's fucking bullshit you don't punch the ref
hehehe
Pretty much. Helps that Mii and Pac-Man are fairly obvious choices too. After seeing Mac I think Sakurai could give Pac an equally cool moveset.
Well it was from some source that sent him the the info. Whether that person sent him more info or even has any more info is unknown.
I'll be absolutely devastated if Krystal doesn't make the cut
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, Look like Sakurai had to use rough draft stage for long time, in order to fool us. However it didn't happens since most of us figured it out that it was Punch Out stage.
While I don't doubt Sakurai and co's ability to give Pacman a moveset, you have to admit giving a boxer a moveset in a fighting game is a bit easier than giving one to a pellet muncher.
Very interesting. I didn't think it was his stage, either. Looks like a generic "Stadium" stage, and he does that alot. Like the Mid Air Stadium, and Home-Run Stadium.
The sexy beast in the spotlight?
Something about this shot I REALLY like, but I can't pinpoint exactly what.
The E3 prediction/leak is notable for many reasons.
By way of background, it was posted here at GAF, by a member who hasn't commented on it since, right before Nintendo's E3. It had Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Pac-Man and Mii.
Villager was considered unlikely at the time, since Sakurai had previously used him as an example of a character NOT suited for Smash Bros. Thus, most people in the SSB community ruled out Villager.
Mega Man was also considered unlikely at the time, since the franchise is all but abandoned by Capcom, so most people in the SSB community reasoned that Mega Man wasn't "relevant enough" for Capcom to allow him in Smash.
Wii Fit Trainer wasn't suggested by a single other soul on the Internet. To my knowledge, the six-newcomer E3 leak is the only one to have mentioned Wii Fit Trainer.
The above three were then revealed at E3. Each with their own individual trailer. Which makes one wonder -- did Nintendo originally plan to show the other three, as well, but was able to withhold them due to the piecemeal nature of the trailers? It's true Sakurai had an explanatory trailer exploring Mega Man, Villager and Wii Fit Trainer, but such a trailer could be edited easily enough.
The other three characters -- Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man -- all seemed plausible, given all of the other factors since then: The Wuhu Island/Pilotwings stage and Find Mii stage for Mii; the boxing arena, now confirmed to have been a Punch-Out stage all along; and Pac-Man is Bandai-Namco's mascot, and one of the most legendary videogame characters of all time, a great-granddaddy of the industry who has recently appeared in two Mario titles and also headlined Pac-Man Vs., arguably the prototype for the WiiU concept.
And now Little Mac is confirmed.
For the E3 prediction/leak to -only- "guess" Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Pac-Man and Mii, when half of those were considered extremely unlikely or never thought of by the SSB community at large, and when any other faker would've thrown in more obvious candidates like Ridley and Palutena... Well, it seems likely the leak was real, and all six were considered for E3.
By way of background, it was posted here at GAF, by a member who hasn't commented on it since, right before Nintendo's E3. It had Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Pac-Man and Mii.
Villager was considered unlikely at the time, since Sakurai had previously used him as an example of a character NOT suited for Smash Bros. Thus, most people in the SSB community ruled out Villager.
Mega Man was also considered unlikely at the time, since the franchise is all but abandoned by Capcom, so most people in the SSB community reasoned that Mega Man wasn't "relevant enough" for Capcom to allow him in Smash.
Wii Fit Trainer wasn't suggested by a single other soul on the Internet. To my knowledge, the six-newcomer E3 leak is the only one to have mentioned Wii Fit Trainer.
The above three were then revealed at E3. Each with their own individual trailer. Which makes one wonder -- did Nintendo originally plan to show the other three, as well, but was able to withhold them due to the piecemeal nature of the trailers? It's true Sakurai had an explanatory trailer exploring Mega Man, Villager and Wii Fit Trainer, but such a trailer could be edited easily enough.
The other three characters -- Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man -- all seemed plausible, given all of the other factors since then: The Wuhu Island/Pilotwings stage and Find Mii stage for Mii; the boxing arena, now confirmed to have been a Punch-Out stage all along; and Pac-Man is Bandai-Namco's mascot, and one of the most legendary videogame characters of all time, a great-granddaddy of the industry who has recently appeared in two Mario titles and also headlined Pac-Man Vs., arguably the prototype for the WiiU concept.
And now Little Mac is confirmed.
For the E3 prediction/leak to -only- "guess" Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Pac-Man and Mii, when half of those were considered extremely unlikely or never thought of by the SSB community at large, and when any other faker would've thrown in more obvious candidates like Ridley and Palutena... Well, it seems likely the leak was real, and all six were considered for E3.
I am so so so so so sooooo happy that they chose to go with a boxing angle that played up agility over being a bully in matches. Dudley > Balrog.
As for your theory analysis, I actually imagine Marth to be one of his worst matchups unless he goes Hulk. Dude will be running into pokes all day and he doesn't look to have anything to contest with Marth's aerials.
Also it is one of the few leaks to follow the golden rule: less is more. No long winded explanation, no long list of random leaks that have no correlation to each other, just a list of six names and nothing more.
As for the stage, I still suspect the graphics from the previous appearances will be in the final game and either one can choose to switch between the two (like Soul Calibar II stages), it's random, or it only becomes a Punch-Out stage when Little Mac is present.
As for the stage, I still suspect the graphics from the previous appearances will be in the final game and either one can choose to switch between the two (like Soul Calibar II stages), it's random, or it only becomes a Punch-Out stage when Little Mac is present.
The Xtortionist
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Has Smash been confirmed native 1080p yet? Little Mac looks smooth as fuck.
powerdrain
Member
I feel pretty much the same. I've never been a "fan" of Pac-Man, but everyone loves and remembers Pac-Man at the same time. He doesn't really have a personality (though he might do in those newer games idk), and he doesn't really fight except...eating things. I would love to see him spar with the likes of Sonic and Mario, just I don't know what his move set could be.
In terms of the Mii concept, I think since Brawl, and the Wii, Mii's have become a mainstay and have been shoved into many Nintendo and third party titles now, it'd be almost shocking not to see them in the game somewhere. I don't know they'd tackle a custom move set system, but in other fighting titles those kind of customisation options have felt boring and unsatisfying to take advantage of, for me anyway, and I'm guessing syncing that Mii character between your 3DS and Wii U systems could be what Sora are going for with the connectivity thing they've mentioned in the past.
And to comment on Mac - I am so happy he got in. He's one of the most deserving Nintendo characters to be part of the roster, and it looks like they've nailed it with his moveset as I was worried he might look a bit boring. I was thinking of starting P-O Wii this week as well, so this has made me really happy.
It seems like information may be trickling out a bit faster now, since it seems we're getting character announcements fortnightly on average, instead of just monthly, and the first actual screenshots of the HUD and stuff. I hope it's a summer release and not autumn or winter, because I'm already dying to try it out.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
How can he hold items when he's wearing boxing gloves.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Nope, it is just a coincidence.
That rock formation looks awfully familiar.
Simba confirmed
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I just want to know your excitement levels and reaction when you saw his trailer.
Cross-post from the other thread, but in case anyone needed more hard evidence that the ring was indeed a Punch-Out stage, here's another comparison shot of the Smash-generalized ring compared to the one in the trailer adorned with the Punch-Out World Circuit and WVBA logos. Wonder if they will alternate?
If they can make Little Mac of all people look interesting, they can definitely work their magic on Pac-Man.
You know we've seen that rock formation oodles of times right?
I'm hesitant to say hard counter since I have no idea if Sakurai will fuck up my beloved Marth. But if he's still good relative to the roster then Marth would definitely wreck Little Mac.
Although Mac has speed and knockback, his spacing doesn't seem good at all and any combo consisting of F-airs, B-airs, or even spikes will be lights out for Mac.
I'm only worried really worried about his OHKO move. Considering Mac's playstyle, I think he'd be best against fast fallers and larger characters. Floaty characters would be a lot harder to combo off of.
If it were Spacies against Mac, I can see Mac having the advantage so long as Fox/Falco/Wolf's Shine doesn't return to Melee status. I hope the shines get buffed but Mac seems to be a good character against big, heavy, fast fallers.
I think Sakurai might add a feature similar to Project M's stage strike where you just press X or Y on a stage and the stage changes to it's alternate form.
Assuming that both Pokemon Stadiums return, I think it's a great use to add extra stages. I could be completely wrong and Sakurai could have just changed the stage textures just so that people don't think it's Mac's stage until his reveal.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I'm talking about the Palutena leak.
Might wanna tell Aran Ryan that first.
Wow Mac that's fucking bullshit you don't punch the ref
Don't reverse Rosalina. You screw up her hair when you do that.
PadWarrior
Member
Same here. I like Pit a lot. But Mega Man and Little Mac have been my all time favorites from my childhood.
Yeah I guessed, and I'm saying we've already seen said formations in a lot of official screenshots. It's not a WOAH CRAZY NEW THING! My ridiculous overthinking cloud analysis even mentioned those rock formations. I've look at these screens far longer than I'd rather admit to, I know what I'm talking about.
Awesome reveal trailer.
Little Mac looks like a beast to main but his recovery puts me off the character.
Magic?
Miis...now that character should be a challenge to make viable for Smash if the leak is true.
Little Mac looks like a beast to main but his recovery puts me off the character.
Magic?
I got nothin.
Miis...now that character should be a challenge to make viable for Smash if the leak is true.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Theres gonna be little mac fanart
out the wazzo now.
and rule 34
PadWarrior
Member
So I guess no pic of the day for tomorrow since we got Mac's pic today on miiverse?
I already saw Samus x Little Mac shipping art on Tumblr little under an hour ago
SkullHydra
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Dear Lil Mac,
How do you
Crapfully yours,
SkullHydra
Lord_Byron28
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I'm curious about the arcade picture with little mac and DK. I know its supposed to be a nostalgia thing but I get this distinct feeling that there may be more to it. Maybe a minigame like break the targets or some new side feature for the game.
Id say regardless of whether the rumor list/leaker is valid, Pacman and Mii are likely. The more unbelievable characters were Megaman, WFT and Villager. Pacman will kinda complete the Mario, Sonic & Megaman thing going on and Namco is working on the game. Mii also from the beginning seemed likely. He could use various moves from Wii Sports, Nintendoland, etc. His down special or regular special could be him rolling a bowling ball. It could be chargeable which would affect speed and damage and unlike other projectiles in smash it would roll to other platforms below adding in some clever strategy.
I predict the other new characters in Smash will be:
Palutena
Ridley
Mii
Pacman
Takamaru
Mewtwo
Dixie or Cranky
Chrom & Lucina (or another FE:A rep)
New Zelda rep
Bringing the newcomers to 13/14 depending on how you view Mewtwo.
Id say regardless of whether the rumor list/leaker is valid, Pacman and Mii are likely. The more unbelievable characters were Megaman, WFT and Villager. Pacman will kinda complete the Mario, Sonic & Megaman thing going on and Namco is working on the game. Mii also from the beginning seemed likely. He could use various moves from Wii Sports, Nintendoland, etc. His down special or regular special could be him rolling a bowling ball. It could be chargeable which would affect speed and damage and unlike other projectiles in smash it would roll to other platforms below adding in some clever strategy.
I predict the other new characters in Smash will be:
Palutena
Ridley
Mii
Pacman
Takamaru
Mewtwo
Dixie or Cranky
Chrom & Lucina (or another FE:A rep)
New Zelda rep
Bringing the newcomers to 13/14 depending on how you view Mewtwo.
Something that I notice from the trailer is just how heavy the gravity is compared to Brawl (including more hitstun). Little Mac also appears to be quite a fast faller too, which really doesn't help his already poor recovery, but makes him seriously fast on stage.
Either way, this system looks so much better than Brawl.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Since the thread is moving very fast so I'm going to repost my post.
Alright I'm going to post what I'm seeing from the trailer.
1. Do Little Mac's speed look fast as if it's melee speed? It seem so fast for me when I watched the trailer.
2. I think he might have combo mechanism which would allow him to make few different moves from one special attack I noticed that he have two running attack so I wonder if he can use running + Side B or so.
3. I like how they are going to reuse Punch Out Wii U stage for 3DS stage since he don't have any game on handheld if I remembered correctly.
4. Look like you have to hold CHARGE for Instant KO, instead of building up bar. I would rather to building up the bar over charging for instant ko.
Same here, even Snake and Pit are my favorite characters. SSB4's first 5 newcomers have diverse in their move sets that what made them even more interesting to me.
Alright I'm going to post what I'm seeing from the trailer.
1. Do Little Mac's speed look fast as if it's melee speed? It seem so fast for me when I watched the trailer.
2. I think he might have combo mechanism which would allow him to make few different moves from one special attack I noticed that he have two running attack so I wonder if he can use running + Side B or so.
3. I like how they are going to reuse Punch Out Wii U stage for 3DS stage since he don't have any game on handheld if I remembered correctly.
4. Look like you have to hold CHARGE for Instant KO, instead of building up bar. I would rather to building up the bar over charging for instant ko.
Same here, even Snake and Pit are my favorite characters. SSB4's first 5 newcomers have diverse in their move sets that what made them even more interesting to me.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
This move looks so cool.
SenorArdilla
Member
Noooo. My roster points are slipping away. Anyways, congrats to those Little Mac fans.
Are these the same moves?
My theory is that the first image is ground side-B, and the second is aerial side-B, but with the second gif it's now harder for me to believe he jumps immediately before triggering the side-B.
In that case, what is the first gif's attack? It's too quick to have been a counter (it didn't make the noise for the counter in the trailer either), his neutral-B attacks appear to be straight punches until the OHKO, and it looks like side-B always make him hop.
BassForever
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So Mac's move set looks something like this correct
B = Chargeable dash punch with super armor
Side B = Lunge attack that leaps behind projectiles
Down B = Counter
Up B = Upper cut
B = Chargeable dash punch with super armor
Side B = Lunge attack that leaps behind projectiles
Down B = Counter
Up B = Upper cut