Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

So this is a Tomadachi stage? I think it looks cool and I'm glad we got something new again.

When I realized this was the US release I knew we wouldn't be getting Yoshi today which is fine. The game will be released when it's released and Yoshi will come in intact. It amazes me how much people over react in a negative way to stuff like this.
 
Thequietone said:
Paraphrasing Kojima. When asked about Snake being in Smash 4 he said, "I don't know, I am not working on that game. It is doubtful, but if Sakurai is watching please use Snake."
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Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
 
Effect said:
Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
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oh boy
 
I don't see how this could be disappointing, I think this is a lot more interesting an update than Yoshi.

We know Yoshi will be in - his inclusion is inevitable and relatively uninteresting. This stage, however, is an odd one from some obscure Japan-only game no one has ever heard of. Who would have guessed that it would be it? I know I wouldn't have.

I only wish it had been a Wii U stage instead... grumble grumble...
 
Effect said:
Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
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oh man
this is what, the 3rd person to say this within the past 24 hours in this thread?
 
Effect said:
Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
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I thought the "It's doubtful" was meant to be about Sakurai watching the stream.
 
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
I'm pretty sure Snake being in Brawl had nothing to do with MGS3 3D....
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Replace I'm sorry with "PLEASE ADD SNAKE"
 
Effect said:
Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
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How do you know it doesn't attract more MGS fans to Smash in return?
 
I had this weird dream last night that the POTD was super late, then when Sakurai finally did post it it was just Villager with WFT. Imagine that, crazy.
 
REVEAL CALENDAR

2013:
June 11: E3, Smash 4 site opens, initial characters: Mario, Link, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Fox, Pit, Samus, Pikachu and Bowser as veterans and Villager, Mega Man and Wii Fit Trainer as newcomers. Stages: Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Wily's Fortress, Skyloft, Super Mario 3D Land., Wii Fit Training Room, Gerudo Valley, Arena Ferox, Nintendogs, Spirit Train, Smashville, weird adventure mode looking stage.

June 12: Smash Ball item.
July 12: Pikmin & Olimar, Garden of Hope Wii U stage.
Jul 23: Kid Icarus 3DS stage.
August 6: Pilot Wings/Wuhu Island Wii U stage.
Aug 7: Luigi.
Aug 16: X-Bomb item.
Aug 20: Pyrosphere Wii U stage.
September 10: Mario Galaxy Wii U stage (tease).
Sep 12: Peach.
Sep 26: Toon Link.
October 1: Sonic and Windy Hill Wii U stage.
Oct 18: Xerneas (likely to be a Pokeball).
Oct 31: Male Wii Fit Trainer (Status currently unknown - alt costume?).
November 4: Hocotate Spaceship item.
Nov 7: Marth.
Nov 11: Capsule item.
Nov 15: Mario Galaxy stage full confirmation.
Nov 26: Ray Gun item.
December 3: Find Mii 3DS stage.
Dec 6: Assist Trophy returns. Skull Kid as AT.
Dec 9: Steel Diver item.
Dec 11: Animal Crossing 3DS stage (tease).
Dec 13: Nintendog as AT.
Dec 18: Rosalina & Luma. Trailer confirms Fire Flower, Green Shell, Pokeball items.
Dec 24: Rainbow Road 3DS stage.
Dec 25: Stafy as AT.
Dec 26: Zelda.

2014:
January 6: Trophy item. Saria trophy.
Jan 10: King Dedede.
Jan 15: Ashley as AT.
Jan 20: Weird adventure mode looking stage. Might be the same as the one in the E3 trailer[/url].
Jan 23: Viridi as stage hazard on Kid Icarus 3DS stage.
Jan 24: Alfonzo replaces Toon Link on the Spirit Tracks 3DS stage when TL is played.
Jan 28: Beetle item.
Jan 29: Kid Icarus-related Wii U stage.
Jan 31: Lucario.
February 5: Palkia in Pokéball.
Feb 7: Mother Brain as AT.
Feb 12: Homerun Bat item.
Feb 13/14: Little Mac. Boxing Ring stage in 3DS version, with Punch Out!! version. Sandbag item possibly confirmed (not shown in-game).
Feb 18: Fairy in a bottle item.
Feb 21: Diddy Kong.
Feb 25: Confirmation Boxing Ring stage has 2 versions (Smash. Bros and Punch-Out!!).
Feb 27: Waluigi as AT.
Feb 28: Dedenne in Pokeball.
March 3: Kotake and Koume as stage hazard on Gerudo Valley.
Mar 4: Bumper item.
Mar 7: Tortimer Island 3DS stage (full reveal).
Mar 10: Little Mac from Captain Rainbow trophy.
Mar 11: Lumiose City 3DS stage.
Mar 13: Proximity Mine item.
Mar 15: Tomodachi Collection 3DS stage.
 
Effect said:
Honestly Kojima can take his wanting Snake and stick it. Even if he know it's doubtful just the joke about it really annoys me for some reason. Nintendo would be beyond stupid to okay this though knowing full well they'll get nothing in return. It's not like Mega Man where Capcom clearly doesn't give a damn about the IP these days. Or Sonic where Nintendo has a good relationship with Sega. What did adding Snake in Brawl result in? A several year old MGS3 on the 3DS of very questionable quality that was undercut before it was even released. There are two Metal Gear Solid games coming out. Why in the hell would Nintendo okay free advertising for that IP towards their already low customer base when they need to get more people to buy their games and systems. Snake just directs more people toward those coming MGS games.
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I agree that it would a shame to lose Snake's Unique moveset and I have actually been on board with trying to adopt part of his moveset in the form of an Advance Wars character or some other character but I have always been in agreement with you on this. It honestly doesn't make any sense to me why Snake would be included again (it still baffles me why he was included in the first place beyond Sakurai's friendship with Kojima). I know the majority disagree with me and something something, Snake is a major gaming icon blah blah he can be included, etc etc he has some vague relevance to nintendo cuz of these reasons. I would rather them include other characters instead of Snake. It doesn't make sense to me and my opinion is the same as yours.
 
March has been "3DS stage month" so far. Loving it. I do like that the console/handheld versions have different stages as well.

Snake makes about as much sense as the GTA character from Chinatown Wars at the moment.
 
I'd say most of us get in the hype train fully knowing it'll crash 9 times out of 10. It's just fun!

And now I realize how fitting it was that Diddy Kong was the only character so far revealed according to an overseas' release; he's also one of the very few Smashers (the only one?) who -isn't- Japanese.
 
Lord_Byron28 said:
Yeah I personally disliked the title and said I didn't think Yoshi would get anounced last night. However, to each their own. Its been a long time since a new character though.
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I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
 
BigEvilTurtle said:
I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
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You know that it's a bit unusual he hasn't been shown off yet, considering the rest of the original 8 have.

Then again, yoshi wasn't shown off in the brawl trailer either (but neither were fox or donkey kong). Yoshi was also the last to be revealed on the dojo.

The order was Link, Mario, Pit, Pikachu, Kirby, Fox, Samus, Wario, Zelda, Bowser, Donkey Kong, Zero Suit Samus, and *THEN* Yoshi. That said, yoshi's reveal was literally 1 month after the dojo went live (which was 1 year after the announce trailer).

Who knows. Sakurai do what sakurai want when sakurai want.
 
BigEvilTurtle said:
I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
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I think it had more to do with people expecting a character reveal than Yoshi itself. No one mentioned Yoshi before the thread title got selected and he isnt a good fighter.
 
Sakurai's really anal about a lot of things. SSB4 was revealed with 12 characters -- a nice, clean number. 9 of those characters were veterans, and 3 of them were newcomers. That's a good balance. The 9 veterans included SSB64's 7 most important characters, a major Melee character (Bowser), and a major Brawl character (Pit). There just wasn't room for Yoshi, and 4 Mario family characters might have been a bit much for the initial reveal.

I really don't think Yoshi is going to be overhauled or anything like that -- it's just that he's the weak link of the SSB64 cast, and now Sakurai is just waiting to announce him alongside the Japanese release of New Island.
 
BigEvilTurtle said:
I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
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Yup. Who gives a shit honestly, unless they're doing something interesting like incorporating his Yarn incarnation.
 
BigEvilTurtle said:
I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
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Smash thread sustains itself on memes and huddles.
 
Jazzem said:
Anyone else hoping desperately for a Rhythm Tengoku stage?

I could understand not having a character as the series doesn't really have a singular mascot, but there would be enough to make a really fun inventive level. If we can have a Tomadachi Collection one then we can have RT too!
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I really hope we get a Rhythm Heaven stage! And while it'll probably never happen, Karate Joe would work for a Rhythm Heaven playable character.

georly said:
What if it's not a tomodachi collection stage, but a mii stage, and it just cycles through all mii-related things on 3ds? Like Mii plaza, find mii, garden, etc etc, mii creator, tomodachi collection.
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Why would they lump different franchises together like that? When has there every been multi-franchise stages like that in Smash Bros. (excluding Summit from Brawl, I guess, which was kind of Ice Climber + Balloon Fight, but mostly Ice Climber)? StreetPass Mii Plaza and Tomodachi Collection are two completely different things. And there's no reason why we can't have multiple Mii related stages. It's not like there haven't been multiple stages for franchises with a single playable character before in Smash Bros., and in this case the stages aren't even from the same franchise, even if they may represent the same character.
 
BigEvilTurtle said:
I just don't get the hype. Like, it's Yoshi. Of course he's returning; he's a vet from the first game. Confirmed characters are nice, but building hype for an obvious (and boring) vet makes no sense to me. Hype trains are more appropriate for Directs and half-confirmed newcomers.
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Yeah, I mean we all know he'll be in. Probably on the Japanese New Island release which has been the norm besides Duddy.
 
There's always next week for a Mario related reveal, with Mario Party's JP release on the 20th.

I'd guess Wario for that before Yoshi, though.
 
Tyeforce said:
I really hope we get a Rhythm Heaven stage! And while it'll probably never happen, Karate Joe would work for a Rhythm Heaven playable character.
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I'm crossing my fingers for Rhythm Monkey myself - monkeys are a recurring motif in the Rhythm Heaven series and Rhythm Monkey was the only Rhythm Heaven character to get a hat in the StreetPass Mii Plaza, which says to me that someone somewhere sees it as a decent rep for the Rhythm Heaven games. Plus, it's a monkey. It would be adorable and awesome.

I would be genuinely surprised if we didn't at least get a RH stage, though, especially since we'll probably be seeing a rather large overall pool of stages as they're split between two games.
 
Drago said:
There's always next week for a Mario related reveal, with Mario Party's JP release on the 20th.

I'd guess Wario for that before Yoshi, though.
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There's always every week up to launch for any reveal. There's no reason to keep assuming a reveal will coincide with some release somewhere in the world. Let the hype build naturally with time and confirmation; this artificial hype is depressing.
 
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