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[Hyperactivity]

I'm starting to get nervous about the inclusion of Ganondorf.

He wouldn't get cut, would he?

He's probably taking so long because he's being revamped

 

[TheSlySoul]

They all only have a small selection of colors in this build by the looks of it.

Yeah, they had 4 skins. Didn't Brawl have 6?

Also yeah, I think Ganondorf and Captain Falcon are getting overhauled, so it is taking longer to show.

 

[PK Gaming]

Super Smash Wii U - Final Thoughts
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#NotAllCompPlayers

 

[theprodigy]

Source

#NotAllCompPlayers

.......that hashtag is meant to be used in a mocking tone, you know

 

[Zimmy64]

I just realized in Pac-Man's reveal trailer at the end they showed Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch together because they both debuted in 1980, and then the showed Mario and Donkey Kong together because they both debuted in 1981, but

The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 isn't the Donkey Kong that is in Smash. They Donkey Kong that is in Smash is the DKC Donkey Kong which debuted in 1994. The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 (the original Donkey Kong) is actually Cranky Kong today.

Cranky Kong Confirmed

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Yeah, they had 4 skins. Didn't Brawl have 6?

Also yeah, I think Ganondorf and Captain Falcon are getting overhauled, so it is taking longer to show.

Brawl had different amounts for different characters. Some had a lot, others had close to the bear minimum.

 

[Monocle]

I hate how Lucas is at risk of being cut. He's one of the best clone characters. Much more interesting than Wolf IMO, and I prefer his fighting style to Ness's.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Brawl had different amounts for different characters. Some had a lot, others had close to the bear minimum.

Yeah, you are right. I remember it going from 4 to 8. The demo only had 4 each.

 

[Vidiot]

Was wire frame Mac in the demo?

 

[k_Reign]

Was wire frame Mac in the demo?

He was not

 

[IntelliHeath]

Skull Hydra and Batty,

E3 is officially over, so I won with two bets. I'm going to get an avatar ready for Batty, but Skull Hydra. Please let me know when you are ready for one in two weeks.

 

[Speedwagon]

He was not

Maybe he was, but no one knew how to pick him? Might be like Male WFT where you have to click on the portrait (I think).

 

[Caladrius]

Why do you people play into Heath's hand?

Masochists, the lot of you.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I don't understand the idea that Lucas is getting cut.

He's pretty unique and not in an overrepresented series.

 

[Village]

I do not think so. I think Wolf/Snake, Lucas, and extra Pokemon (Squirtle/Ivysaur) have the biggest chance. If 4 get cut, the roster is 46 from what we know.

not with that new star fox coming out.

Star fox just got boosted back to existing status.

also tuants

 

[SkullHydra]

Skull Hydra and Batty,

E3 is officially over, so I won with two bets. I'm going to get an avatar ready for Batty, but Skull Hydra. Please let me know when you are ready for one in two weeks.

Yessir! ^_^7

Also, SkullHydra is just one word. =P

 

[The Great Gonzales]

I don't understand the idea that Lucas is getting cut.

He's pretty unique and not in an overrepresented series.

Some characters have to get cut lest the roster get bloated, and Lucas' specials were close enough to Ness's that custom moves can compensate. If Lucas is cut, I wouldn't be surprised to see PK Freeze as a custom move.

I agree with you about series representation, though. It would be a shame to see Earthbound drop to just one rep.

 

[Village]

and wolf

Nope.

Star fox as of now, is more existent than metriod.
( also personally I would worry about falco ) But the point is wolfs fine.

 

[Ryce]

I just realized in Pac-Man's reveal trailer at the end they showed Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch together because they both debuted in 1980, and then the showed Mario and Donkey Kong together because they both debuted in 1981, but

The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 isn't the Donkey Kong that is in Smash. They Donkey Kong that is in Smash is the DKC Donkey Kong which debuted in 1994. The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 (the original Donkey Kong) is actually Cranky Kong today.

Cranky Kong Confirmed

To me, Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong, the same way that Link is Link. The Smash Bros. version of Link is the Twilight Princess incarnation from 2006, but I'd still place him alongside Samus and Pit as having debuted on the NES. Nintendo doesn't seem to like acknowledging the Donkey/Cranky situation, and even the DK design from the arcade-inspired Mario vs. Donkey Kong series is taken from DKC.

 

[ffdgh]

Skull Hydra and Batty,

E3 is officially over, so I won with two bets. I'm going to get an avatar ready for Batty, but Skull Hydra. Please let me know when you are ready for one in two weeks.

You have inside info...Spill it! /s

 

[SmithnCo]

I just realized in Pac-Man's reveal trailer at the end they showed Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch together because they both debuted in 1980, and then the showed Mario and Donkey Kong together because they both debuted in 1981, but

The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 isn't the Donkey Kong that is in Smash. They Donkey Kong that is in Smash is the DKC Donkey Kong which debuted in 1994. The Donkey Kong that debuted in 1981 (the original Donkey Kong) is actually Cranky Kong today.

Cranky Kong Confirmed

Deepest lore.

 

[Village]

To me, Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong, the same way that Link is Link. The Smash Bros. version of Link is the Twilight Princess incarnation from 2006, but I'd still place him alongside Samus and Pit as having debuted on the NES. Nintendo doesn't seem to like acknowledging the Donkey/Cranky situation, and even the DK design from the arcade-inspired Mario vs. Donkey Kong series is taken from DKC.

They acknowledged it in smash bros and in the DK games and they acknowledged it on twitter. Nintendo acknowledges it PLENTY.

The DK in smash is DK the 3rd and cranky is cranky. Because smash came out when that dk the 3rd was around.

 

[autobzooty]

I realize that Lucas being cut is the most likely thing, but man it would just be a dream for me if they added more characters from Earthbound. I'd like to see them add Paula and give her PK Fire, Thunder, and Magnet, and then completely overhaul Ness with moves he actually used in that game.

Hell, even Jeff would make an awesome addition with all the gadgets he used. Probably still just an assist trophy though.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

So how about ranking the newcomers with the new ones?

Villager
Pac-Man
Mega Man
Mii Gunner
Wii Fit Trainer
Palutena
Mii Brawler
Greninja
Little Mac
Rosalina
Mii Swordfighter


I'm a lot more interested in Pac-Man and Miis than I thought I'd be.

 

[Speedwagon]

GameXplain - Luigi's New Final Smash

 

[Caladrius]

Nope.

Star fox as of now, is more existent than metriod.
( also personally I would worry about falco ) But the point is wolfs fine.

And, like magic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=836753

Metroid of course doesn't have a prototype or anything yet, but it ain't dead.

 

[IntelliHeath]

You have inside info...Spill it! /s

Alright, you twisted my arm. I'm going to spill something.

Batty, Here's your new avatar for next two weeks

Edited: The time will start when you post with a new avatar.

 

[Trey]

He's probably taking so long because he's being revamped

Please. He has too much swag to be a clone.

 

[Village]

And, like magic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=836753

Metroid of course doesn't have a prototype or anything yet, but it ain't dead.

I never said it was dead.

All I said is it exists more than metriod. Which it does.

 

[Ryce]

So how about ranking the newcomers with the new ones?

1. Villager
2. Mega Man
3. Pac-Man
4. Little Mac
5. Wii Fit Trainer
6. Rosalina & Luma
7. Mii Fighter
8. Palutena
9. Greninja

I like them all, though.

 

[Caladrius]

Alright, you twisted my arm. I'm going to spill something.

Batty, Here's your new avatar for next two weeks

Again guys, never more than 24 hours.> __ >

I never said it was dead.

All I said is it exists more than metriod. Which it does.

Fair enough.

 

[Ryce]

They acknowledged it in smash bros and in the DK games and they acknowledged it on twitter. Nintendo acknowledges it PLENTY.

The DK in smash is DK the 3rd and cranky is cranky. Because smash came out when that dk the 3rd was around.

SSB64 description:

Donkey Kong and Mario started out as arch-rivals, but they've patched things up in recent years. These days DK spends his time searching the jungle for bananas instead of kidnapping beautiful maidens. In the past few years, other members of the Kong family have cashed in on DK's fame as well, including his favorite nephew, Diddy.

Works:
Donkey Kong (Arcade),
Donkey Kong Country (SNES),
Mario Kart 64 (N64)

Melee trophy:

While he now prefers the laid-back jungle lifestyle to construction site mischief, DK is often forced back into action by the Kremling Krew. The great ape is quite fast despite his burly physique, and he keeps his strength up with a steady diet of his favorite food: bananas. His one extravagance (and only piece of clothing) is a monogrammed necktie.

Donkey Kong, Arcade 1981

For the record, I know that Rare considered Cranky the original DK, but I'm specifically talking about Smash Bros. here.

 

[SkullHydra]

Alright, you twisted my arm. I'm going to spill something.

Batty, Here's your new avatar for next two weeks

Edited: The time will start when you post with a new avatar.

Crud. That's hideous. You might as well post mine too, so I can store it away until Batty's avatars are over.

 

[Spainkiller]

I don't understand the idea that Lucas is getting cut.

He's pretty unique and not in an overrepresented series.

He was pretty much a Ness reskin with different (special) attacks. Those different special attacks will now become Ness' optional special attacks.

He's probably taking so long because he's being revamped

You are saying all the right things.

 

[PadWarrior]

Forgive me Wii U Pro Controller, I just ordered an official Gamecube controller and MayFlassh adapter for my Wii U. Am I a bad person?

 

[Speedwagon]

Forgive me Wii U Pro Controller, I just ordered an official Gamecube controller and MayFlassh adapter for my Wii U. Am I a bad person?

Why not wait for the official Smash ones?

 

[Enforced]

Forgive me Wii U Pro Controller, I just ordered an official Gamecube controller and MayFlassh adapter for my Wii U. Am I a bad person?

*looks at your avy*
yes you are.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Crud. That's hideous. You might as well post mine too, so I can store it away until Batty's avatars are over.

 

[PadWarrior]

Why not wait for the official Smash ones?

i wanted to start using a GC on Brawl since it's been years since I used one.

 

[Hyperactivity]

I would be ok with this
If it were me

 

[IntelliHeath]

I would be ok with this
If it were me

If I win, it is more likely to be something related to Red and Charizard.. Just that Troubled Bat kept making avatar bets and asking for punishments through avatar bets. I'm going to give him the worst avatars I could find.

 

[SkullHydra]

Forgive me Wii U Pro Controller, I just ordered an official Gamecube controller and MayFlassh adapter for my Wii U. Am I a bad person?

Why would you buy a third party adapter for the Wii Remote instead of the official Smash Bros adapter that you can plug multiple controllers into?

 

[ErrorMacro]

I don't understand the idea that Lucas is getting cut.

He's pretty unique and not in an overrepresented series.

I was thinking about that, and I believe it's mainly a matter of the visual similarity he has with Ness. Their only big difference is their hair/hat. The clothes (excluding Ness's backpack), their height and their body are pretty much the same!

It doesn't help that both of them share B moves. Also, as sad as it is, Mother is a minor franchise at this point, so I think Sakurai prefers to focus his work on adding characters from other series, who are more visually distinctive than other included characters.

 

[PadWarrior]

Why would you buy a third party adapter for the Wii Remote instead of the official Smash Bros adapter that you can plug multiple controllers into?

See my post a page back.

 

[SkullHydra]

See my post a page back.

Ah. Well let us know how it works out!

 

[PKrockin]

He was pretty much a Ness reskin with different (special) attacks. Those different special attacks will now become Ness' optional special attacks.

A Ness reskin with different special attacks? I'm sorry, but did you even play Brawl? Am I the joker here for feeding the troll?

 

[Riposte]

In terms of adapting characters and their style from games, Ness/Lucas have some of the worst movesets. They don't even use those PKs for the most part.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Sorry off topic; Will the adapter allow GCN controllers in Mario Kart 8?

 

[PadWarrior]

Ah. Well let us know how it works out!

I will, It's due in Saturday. It's my father's day gift lol.

 

[Speedwagon]

So how about ranking the newcomers with the new ones?

I tried to rank them and my brain exploded. They all look so good. I could only muster up a top 3:

1. Wii Fit Trainer
2. Palutena
3. Pac-Man

I absolutely love the way Sakurai decided to design Pac-Man. It couldn't have been more unique and interesting. And Palutena is awesome with all her moves inspired by Uprising's multi-player.