I like everything I'm seeing... except Wooly World, oddly enough. I'm super-hyped for that game, and I appreciate its layout, how it blends off-stage and walk-offs, and how it transforms, and how it has the balancing platforms. But it just looks kind of... sparse. I dunno. The only hiccup so far -- I love all of the other stages. I'll probably come to love Wooly World, as well, but first impression is a bit iffy.
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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS
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The demon has been slain. Although we couldn't stop 75m from returning, at least knowing Mario Bros. will rot in hell with New Pork City is a minor comfort.
This is really bad advice. :lol
The point of people camping edges is to bait someone into engaging them and beating their option with a grab - toss into the blast zone. A person standing by it is pretty much the immovable object.
MrSaturn99
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That's actually a ripped medley from Wrecking Crew.
It's coming, and you will like it.
Considering how many time Kotaku has linked IntelliHeath's posts as a source, we're halfway there.
The Bankslammer
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uh... is gerudo valley playing on temple?
it was definitely in my music on skyloft in the jp stream
edit: might be the original version rather than the arrangement? i can't really hear that well.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Wait I was right about opening? I wish I wasn't. :-\
But Ridley is too big to be balanced.
StreetsAhead
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Wish we could have seen Jungle Japes. Want to see to what extent it's been upgraded.
MrSaturn99
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I dunno man I couldn't hear because TALK TALK TALK TALK
but excellent news if true
Man that new Star Fox stage looks amazing11!
MaverickHunterAsh
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Nice image, thanks for putting them together like this! Based on this and my own investigation, I'm making the following predictions:
- Zelda only having three stages overall and just one new stage feels off. I'm thinking we'll either get a new stage from The Wind Waker HD or a revamped Pirate Ship (especially now that we know swimming is still in). Having no Wind Waker representation at all, especially in light of Toon Link, just doesn't seem likely to me. Gerudo Valley is also possible.
- Pokémon only having two stages (one new, one returning) is also strange for Nintendo's biggest franchise (currently), though maybe not because it's handheld-based. Feels like we could get one more Pokémon stage, though. Maybe Pokémon Stadium in addition to its sequel, or perhaps Unova Pokémon League or Prism Tower will be shared from the 3DS version?
- F-Zero and Mother only getting one stage so far, returning to boot, is a huge red flag. I'm 99% sure we're getting Magicant and Mute City SNES in the Wii U version as well at this point; they're based on console games to boot, so why not? Not to mention the fact there's that Flying Man token in Smash Tour.
- Mr. Game & Watch is 99% certain to have his own stage that you get along with unlocking him like in the 3DS version, either Flat Zone (since Flat Zone 2 is in Smash 3DS) or a new stage.
- I kind of wonder if there's a chance WarioWare, Inc. will come back in the Wii U version to help represent the wider WarioWare series, but as there don't seem to be any returning stages in common between Smash 3DS and Wii U, maybe not.
- Balloon Fight can be seen in the Masterpieces menu in the Direct, and there's no way that's there because of Villager's up special alone. The Balloon Fight stage is in.
That's all I got. Anyone else have anything to add?
Thanks for the update, Spainkiller! Guess we'll just have to wait and see what the deal is with Dixie and the Chorus Kids. I have a feeling Dixie is coming eventually as DLC, but I'm losing hope for the Chorus Kids.
Sadly, Rhythm Heaven just isn't a big enough deal to most people to justify doing a DLC release just for a character from that series. I hope I'm thinking about this the wrong way, though, because I still want a Rhythm Heaven rep so badly...On the contrary, actually. You can never have too many traveling stages. Sakurai knows exactly what he's doing!
I don't get it either. Traveling stages are the best. They tend to be the best-looking and are just exciting to play.
It really is insufferable. The part of the fanbase (and I believe it's a very vocal minority) that just wants every new stage to be a flat area with maybe a platform or two and nothing going on is just the worst - they already have Battlefield, Big Battlefield, FD, and the Omega versions for that, which seems appropriate because that segment of the fanbase is looking for predictability, not variety (not an insult, just a conclusion).
Thank god it's a game designer like Sakurai who's in charge of this series, because it's clear he values interesting, dynamic stages with things actually happening over concerns that would really dull the game like "no walk-offs!" and "there's a hazard?! BANNED!" I've only seen a small handful of stages in the Wii U version that I dislike (Wily Castle sadly being one); the vast majority look fucking fantastic, yet sure enough, we already have people coming out of the woodworks with hyperbole like "the stages just get worse and worse" and "this is the worst stage lineup in the history of the series."
Insufferable is one word; exhausting is another. This fanbase is just exhausting sometimes. I would never, ever want to be Sakurai.
Yeah, I was thinking it was maybe a new Flat Zone stage until it was pointed out that Mr. Game & Watch's Final Smash adds a color filter to the stage. Evidence now points toward it being Mushroom Kingdom U, anyway...
I wish I could answer that! The videos we've been posting today are based on the event Andre went to yesterday; because he and the event were in San Francisco, so far he's the only one that's played the final build. But I'm going to an event on Monday in Los Angeles where I'm pretty sure I'll get to play it as well, so I'll try to find this out and answer your question then.
Useless? Not in the least. Wuhu Island doesn't have the island from the SNES Pilotwings, and the Direct yesterday briefly showed some of the music selections for the Pilotwings stage. "Light Plane (Vocal Mix)?" Oh my god, yes. That alone justifies Pilotwings as a separate stage from Wuhu Island!
Yeah, for some reason they wouldn't allow people at the event yesterday to record footage of Gamer or certain other stages. We're not sure why.
balladofwindfishes
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And hearing Corneria's music
I'm so ingrained to have that stage with that music, it's actually unsettling to not have it in the game.
The 10 seconds you fight on the Great Fox don't make up for it.
Maybe Sector Z will make a surprise return. I might just explode if that happens. That stage could actually hold 8 players and we'd have an 8 player map from every Smash game.
Oh man, that was so painful to watch. And I like how, right after talking about Lylat Cruise as though it's a new stage, they transition with, "So any stages coming back from Brawl?"Man that new Star Fox stage looks amazing11!
MrSaturn99
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ash did you play onett
what song was playing
what song was playing
Dr. Buni
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No reason why it should be a bad thing. WarioWare and Wario Land are amazing series.
Gamer is amazing. Still no (direct feed) footage of the Sonic Lost World stage
I wish I could answer that! The videos we've been posting today are based on the event Andre went to yesterday; because he and the event were in San Francisco, so far he's the only one that's played the final build. But I'm going to an event on Monday in Los Angeles where I'm pretty sure I'll get to play it as well, so I'll try to find this out and answer your question then.
i dont want to waitPlease tell me the Parasite Queen track plays in any of the Metroid stages, please ;(
Starphoenix
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So, if Magicant is on the Wii U version, is there going to be some enhancement not reflected in the 3DS version ala Gaur Plains? Maybe more flashbacks in the background?
Not necessarily. Boxing Ring is pretty identical in both.
Starphoenix
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Boxing Ring wasn't a very comprehensive stage to begin with...
MaverickHunterAsh
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Like I said in my post, I haven't played it at all yet - I have to wait until Monday. I'll try to play Onett and let you know!
I don't either.
I wouldn't know, but I'll keep an ear out for that. I do like that song and wish Frigate Orpheon was returning.
1080p, baby. (I know that's not what you meant, but seriously, that's all I'm expecting... and that'll be enough for me.)
Senselessb
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So I guess Doc Louis, Excite Biker and Resetti are ATs now.
But they describe Lylat Cruise. They obviously thought Lylat Cruise was a new stage.
Dr. Buni
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More music and better visuals are enough to me.
Babylonian
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Hey, guys: I'm killing some time while my Smash Bros video finishes processing on YouTube, so if you have any questions about my 3 hours with the game, let me know and I'll do my best to answer 'em! 😘
Hey Ash, I hope you're right on all counts. That being said, just to play devil's advocate on a couple points:
- I think it was Ryce who pointed out that in Smash Tour, it's not just Flying Man who appears, but also Soulflee and other characters from Smash Run. Yet to our knowledge, there's no mode with enemies in the WiiU version. In other words, just because Flying Man's in Smash Tour, doesn't mean his corresponding stage is, as well.
- I think if Mr. Game & Watch had a stage, they probably would've given us at least a glimpse of it in his unveiling on the website. Or maybe they did and I don't remember. Either way, it's not a hard and fast rule, but it is a tad discouraging.
I wish I could answer that! The videos we've been posting today are based on the event Andre went to yesterday; because he and the event were in San Francisco, so far he's the only one that's played the final build. But I'm going to an event on Monday in Los Angeles where I'm pretty sure I'll get to play it as well, so I'll try to find this out and answer your question then.
Thanks! Stupid vague direct!
I wouldn't know, but I'll keep an ear out for that. I do like that song and wish Frigate Orpheon was returning.
Please do so.
I'm sad Frigate is not returning but the music would be enough to heal my heart
Jawmuncher
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I'm hoping that it's 1-5 is regular smash and more than that is considered TOO BIG like ridley.
OricWindstar
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Oh, sweet! Always nice to see more press members here. What site are you with (if you're cool to reveal that)?
PadWarrior
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For those that played with a GC controller, do you have to press all the way down on the shoulder buttons to shield/roll/grab? Or is pressure sensitive like Melee was?
Really? Where'd you hear that? And does Resetti still obscure the screen with his rants? I loved that feature, haha.
If you played on Kalos, what was Rayquaza like? Any really noticeable disruptions in terms of the hazards?
Did you find the meaning of life after experience 1080p Smash first hand?
Did you play Onett and if so what music played?
Not knowing this is burning my soul.
PadWarrior
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Did you notice a big difference when using a GC pad to the 3ds pad? Are the shoulder buttons pressure sensitive or do you need to press all the way down for shielding/grab/rolling?
Babylonian
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On the topic of hazards in Kalos Pokémon League:
We know Malva's Fire-type chamber has fire spouts under the platforms and on both sides of the stage that will sear anyone who touches them. We know Drasna's Dragon-type chamber has an appearance by Rayquaza. We know Siebold's Water-type chamber has a current rushing through it, complete with slides. But what about Wikstrom's Steel-type chamber?
Well, see how part of the blade is exposed on each sword? I bet each blade will damage the fighters and knock them back when touched. The hilts and handles are safe to use as platforms, but if you touch the blades from the outside, they'll probably deal damage and knockback, like the thorns in Rumble Falls. And I imagine there could be a nasty pinball effect in the middle, bouncing back and forth between the two blades.
I actually encountered this stage when playing Classic mode at last night's event, and the real answer it's way weirder than you'd think: the middle circle in the stage bubbles up with this molten metal looking stuff, and anyone who touches it becomes a metal version of their character temporarily! (Which was kind of funny to me, because I was already fighting against a metal Greninja.
)Anyways - I don't actually remember the blades edges knocking me back in my time on that stage, but maybe I just never touched it!
Karsticles
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It is good to attack sometimes. Keep the player on his or her toes.
ChrisMahoney
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Worst Smash opening. Still excited.
OricWindstar
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Haha, what?! That's kind of awesome.I actually encountered this stage when playing Classic mode at last night's event, and the real answer it's way weirder than you'd think: the middle circle in the stage bubbles up with this molten metal looking stuff, and anyone who touches it becomes a metal version of their character temporarily! (Which was kind of funny to me, because I was already fighting against a metal Greninja.
Anyways - I don't actually remember the blades edges knocking me back in my time on that stage, but maybe I just never touched it!
MrSaturn99
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Oh, awesome! :-DI actually encountered this stage when playing Classic mode at last night's event, and the real answer it's way weirder than you'd think: the middle circle in the stage bubbles up with this molten metal looking stuff, and anyone who touches it becomes a metal version of their character temporarily! (Which was kind of funny to me, because I was already fighting against a metal Greninja.
Anyways - I don't actually remember the blades edges knocking me back in my time on that stage, but maybe I just never touched it!
I'm avoiding watching it until I get my game day 1.
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