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Playing different kinds of characters is pretty important in fighting games. Even if they don't suit your personal playstyle it's still good to have more of an idea of what people who play those different kinds of characters are thinking. Especially in SF4 if you play a vortex character like Ibuki, Viper, etc. I played vortex characters in SF4 for so long that I pretty much forgot how to play footsies until I started playing Chun a lot.

You should try getting good with Chun, Guile, Deejay, Bison, Vega, or Zangief or someone. Evil Ryu is pretty much the same kind of "knock them down and run really ambiguous setups" character as Ibuki even if it isn't quite as brainless.

 

[Venfayth]

Play Juri

 

[Relix]

Got a new router. Will test to see if connection is more stable than the previous one which caused random spikes

 

[Rentahamster]

Got a new router. Will test to see if connection is more stable than the previous one which caused random spikes

You need to replace the coconuts, too. Worked for me.

 

[xCobalt]

The vortex is going away, anyways.

Not quite. She has less options but the vortex is still there. People will probably end combos with Tsumuji (kicks) now and start their mixup from there.

 

[Relix]

You need to replace the coconuts, too. Worked for me.

Actually tested it out. Guess my old router was shafting me. Can't do shit about distance but there were no random lag spikes at least.

 

[Roche]

Playing different kinds of characters is pretty important in fighting games. Even if they don't suit your personal playstyle it's still good to have more of an idea of what people who play those different kinds of characters are thinking. Especially in SF4 if you play a vortex character like Ibuki, Viper, etc. I played vortex characters in SF4 for so long that I pretty much forgot how to play footsies until I started playing Chun a lot.

You should try getting good with Chun, Guile, Deejay, Bison, Vega, or Zangief or someone. Evil Ryu is pretty much the same kind of "knock them down and run really ambiguous setups" character as Ibuki even if it isn't quite as brainless.

This is very true, I've found that attempting to play other characters usually makes me look like I've never seen the game before let alone played it. I think playing as Chun or Bison might be a good idea now that you mention them, I always have fun fighting against these two might as well give them a shot.

Play Juri

I'm always terrified when I play against Juri, that wheel kick she does demands respect. Might give her a try see what happens.

 

[Relix]

jlai's internet obviously sucks.....

>_>

 

[Passive Assassin]

Not quite. She has less options but the vortex is still there. People will probably end combos with Tsumuji (kicks) now and start their mixup from there.

shhhh

 

[Onemic]

Not quite. She has less options but the vortex is still there. People will probably end combos with Tsumuji (kicks) now and start their mixup from there.

wat

 

[jlai]

jlai's internet obviously sucks.....

>_>

it said player left session!!

 

[AutumnAve]

Ughhhh, Kadey...too strong...

 

[Passive Assassin]

Ughhhh, Kadey...too strong...

pc?

 

[AutumnAve]

pc?

yeah. brb, rethinking life.

 

[Passive Assassin]

ah. well im down to play lol.

 

[Passive Assassin]

ggs edge and kak

 

[Yoshichan]

I could never forget thanks to Yoshichan throwing his TE in the trash and photographing it after Inthul took 3rd at ECT

No regrets...

edit: ffs, are you dementia? I'm so confused.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

I made him ragequit one time.

I'd like to see that match. :lol

 

[Venfayth]

Not quite. She has less options but the vortex is still there. People will probably end combos with Tsumuji (kicks) now and start their mixup from there.

The worst part of the vortex now to me is unblockables, which hopefully will be removed with system changes. HK Tsumuji mixups aren't as hard to see. She'll still have setups and stuff obviously, but it'll be a smaller part of her game plan.

(I hope)

I'm always terrified when I play against Juri, that wheel kick she does demands respect. Might give her a try see what happens.

If you want to play sometime, I can show you what my Juri is all about!

 

[Relix]

it said player left session!!

Lolz it told me Host had left. I went away with a sad face. And i was about to show off my leet Rose skills haha. Another time

 

[def sim]

I've been playing AE PC with vsync on for the past six months and only now did I try borderless window mode.

It's like taking the weighted clothes off. :O

 

[Onemic]

The worst part of the vortex now to me is unblockables, which hopefully will be removed with system changes. HK Tsumuji mixups aren't as hard to see. She'll still have setups and stuff obviously, but it'll be a smaller part of her game plan.

Can she combo into kicks after a vortex setup?

 

[joseranulfo]

I just started playing this game and have been trying the arcade mode with ryu on medium hard, the barrel bonus stage is giving me nightmares, I often get to fight Ken before he stops me stone cold and after a couple hours I decided to give it a break and started doing the challenges.

Well as it turns out, my timing is not working, sometimes I manage to succeed in a level more because of chance or plain button mashing than real skill. I also got stuck on level 14,I spent about an hour yesterday trying to get the jump H kick and the stand H punch sometimes I manage to follow up with the shoryuken and then I'm supposed to ex cancel and do the ultra hadoken,

I even watched a YouTube video to see how it's done and now I need to find one that does it in real slow motion if I want to see or learn something.

Anyway, despite the rant I'm having fun and like the challenge. I just hope I don't burst out in flames from the frustration before I get better.

Tips and suggestions appreciated.

P. S. And then I have to learn other 39 characters.

 

[Onemic]

I just started playing this game and have been trying the arcade mode with ryu on medium hard, the barrel bonus stage is giving me nightmares, I often get to fight Ken before he stops me stone cold and after a couple hours I decided to give it a break and started doing the challenges.

Well as it turns out, my timing is not working, sometimes I manage to succeed in a level more because of chance or plain button mashing than real skill. I also got stuck on level 14,I spent about an hour yesterday trying to get the jump H kick and the stand H punch sometimes I manage to follow up with the shoryuken and then I'm supposed to ex cancel and do the ultra hadoken,

I even watched a YouTube video to see how it's done and now I need to find one that does it in real slow motion if I want to see or learn something.

Anyway, despite the rant I'm having fun and like the challenge. I just hope I don't burst out in flames from the frustration before I get better.

Tips and suggestions appreciated.

P. S. And then I have to learn other 39 characters.

Trials are not important if you want to learn how to play the game.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Trial combos are inefficient if you're looking to maximize damage or use meter intelligently.

 

[joseranulfo]

Trials are not important if you want to learn how to play the game.

Trial combos are inefficient if you're looking to maximize damage or use meter intelligently.

Ok, I get it. I'm mostly an offline player trying to get the most out of the game. Meaning I just want to finish the arcade mode with as many characters I can and the trials seemed like a fun thing to do.

I get that I should get online and play a lot or get someone to teach me to get better but I'm not that involved yet.

 

[RockTurtle]

Trial combos are inefficient if you're looking to maximize damage or use meter intelligently.

but some of those trial comboes are BnB comboes for some chars (like vega)

 

[Venfayth]

Can she combo into kicks after a vortex setup?

Any time (as far as I am aware of) that Ibuki can combo into neckbreaker, she could also combo into kicks. There may be some funky distances where not all hits will connect, though.

 

[Passive Assassin]

Can she combo into kicks after a vortex setup?

shhh. you'll never be able to leave the vortex karsius.

 

[Kadey]

I was incredibly sleepy last night.

 

[notworksafe]

I was incredibly sleepy last night.

So was BV

 

[Kadey]

Well his wife wears the pants in the relationship. He's allowed to sleep when she tells him to.

 

[Onemic]

Any time (as far as I am aware of) that Ibuki can combo into neckbreaker, she could also combo into kicks. There may be some funky distances where not all hits will connect, though.

So she'll be just as vortex heavy as before then? An Ibuki player will just combo into kicks instead of neckbreaker for more derp wins >:|

shhh. you'll never be able to leave the vortex karsius.

 

[Passive Assassin]

So she'll be just as vortex heavy as before then? An Ibuki player will just combo into kicks instead of neckbreaker for more derp wins >:|

Lol. No. Theyre mostly just safejumps off of mk ender.

 

[black_vegeta]

Well his wife wears the pants in the relationship. He's allowed to sleep when she tells him to.

D:

 

[BizzyBum]

Anyone down for some games?

 

[Kadey]

I'm about to play for a little while. PC.

 

[black_vegeta]

Anyone down for some games?

What platform?

 

[BizzyBum]

Unfortunately my PC is buggin the fuck out lately with my display drivers randomly crashing so I can only play on 360 and PS3 for now.

 

[Kadey]

I'm going to have a PS3 lobby up too.

 

[black_vegeta]

Unfortunately my PC is buggin the fuck out lately with my display drivers randomly crashing so I can only play on 360 and PS3 for now.

360 then. Gt is Battle Kat

 

[xCobalt]

So she'll be just as vortex heavy as before then? An Ibuki player will just combo into kicks instead of neckbreaker for more derp wins >:|

Check out the first round. Sako was able to get a counter hit setup and a kunai mixup after the knockdown and he only used Tsumuji.

 

[BizzyBum]

360 then. Gt is Battle Kat

Too bad we get a shitty connection, had a good Sagat I wanted to face. Lol

 

[Westlo]

Any time (as far as I am aware of) that Ibuki can combo into neckbreaker, she could also combo into kicks. There may be some funky distances where not all hits will connect, though.

Isn't fixing the hit box for kicks one of her buffs though?

 

[Onemic]

Lol. No. Theyre mostly just safejumps off of mk ender.

so you cant do an ambiguous crossup after?

 

[Passive Assassin]

You can always throw a kunai afterwards though lol

 

[Marz]

GGs Marz!

Sorry, at work right now and I haven't watched any replays so this is just going off memory.

Honda-Sagat:
The matchup should be dictated so that you completely zone me out with plasma and thwart any jump-in attempts with his gdlk anti airs.
Be more random with your fireball patterns. If I sat and crouched low, you kept throwing low tiger shots, which Honda's headbutt goes through (full screen) so I went for it often. Honda can only walk forward in this situation, and can only walk under high tigershots to approach. If a honda jumps from basically any closer than 3/4 of the screen, that should be a standing roundhouse or tiger uppercut.
You can punish med/fierce headbutts on block with kara-uppercut or knee or tiger shots (if you do a tiger shot make it ex so you get the knockdown). I got a lot of free chip damage from this. One of the first things I do in a sagat matchup is to see if they can punish a fierce headbutt. If not, then I'll just keep throwing them out there for chip.
I saw you buffering a lot, but were you just buffering fireballs? I was pretty comfortable jumping in on you and felt like I wasn't going to get hit with a tiger uppercut, even if I did get hit. I just wasn't afraid to jump in.
I noticed whenever I scored a knockdown off headbutt, you pretty much only did a quick getup and threw out a low tigershot. Sometimes you just gotta sit and block. Try not to stick to just one thing on wakeup.

Not bad though. I happen to enjoy this matchup, and I think it is the easiest out of Honda's worst matchups so I play pretty confidently against Sagat.

O wow I didn't even know high tiger shots can hit Honda out of headbutt....that explains a lot lmao.

I know I'm pretty free to jump ins right now, its something I've been working on, I've only been playing Sagat for a couple months so every matchup and round is a learning experience for me. I was actually buffering uppercut motion to try and react to headbutt although it didn't really work out to well lol

Thanks for the advice man and GGs! Hopefully the connection was good on your end it was good for me.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Is it true Oni is banned from tourney play?

 

[Edgeward]

No

 

[Kadey]

This LX guy makes Degen look like a rocket scientist.