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Super Street Fighter 4 Æ |OT5| Waiting to go from Super to Ultra
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Why is everybody at? About to go live. http://www.twitch.tv/kadey1up
black_vegeta
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Lol. That was golden
Trickster
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I've actually realized recently that I talk kinda like DSP to myself sometimes if I'm getting really frustrated while playing
Yea, it's pretty great seeing him exposed like that.
I've actually realized recently that I talk kinda like DSP to myself sometimes if I'm getting really frustrated while playing
knock that shit off.
Trickster
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hahaha, can't help it man.
RockTurtle
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the kappa gods have heard me
wow..now that i think about it was holding it in the "non-fgc friends" mode.
wow..now that i think about it was holding it in the "non-fgc friends" mode.
I used the 360 analog stick for a long time before I switched to stick. It really comes down to what you're comfortable with. Some techniques are easier on stick but pad players can manage.
Trickster
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I would litterally get a sore thumb and have abysmal ability to execute stuff when I used a pad
Passive Assassin
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wineglass and i use my middle finger to do jabs and shorts for jab x2 combos etc.
MiniBossBattle
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Anyone try cross handed (seth killian). Always looked cool.
pp whores. The worst.
The best is when you beat them once and drop their pp by over 100 and the 5 times they joined you to gain a measly 5-10pp each time goes up in flames. Of course once they try to rejoin to gain back all the pp they lost I kick em out.
Passive Assassin
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i can't block them either :L FRAAY
I'm not familiar with Vega but if its anything like Cammy's or Guy's grab, you can just crouch and the grab will whiff.
RockTurtle
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nope.
you have to focus the wall dive. they can still grab you but if you initiate the dash right as they are about to touch you, it forces Vega to do the slash and you will armor through it.
Rice-Eater
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pp whores. The worst.
The best is when you beat them once and drop their pp by over 100 and the 5 times they joined you to gain a measly 5-10pp each time goes up in flames. Of course once they try to rejoin to gain back all the pp they lost I kick em out.
Myself personally I do it sometimes because A) there is nobody else to play and B) I want to practice my harder combos against real opponents(even if online). I do go into them thinking this is a free win so I play a little wreckless myself. But I have lost many matches to much lower PP players who were that bad and not just good players making new accounts. Most of the time it's them who disappear to avoid rematches though.
That move is pretty bad. You're doing something wrong if you're getting hit by it full screen.
RockTurtle
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those sinister <100 pp players who play like they are in grand finals in EVO
Mah PP ;-;
and then there's also the low PP player who has rudemntary skills and does the same setup and combos everytime. but. you. just. keep. walking. into. them. cause of a brain fart.
Mah PP ;-;
and then there's also the low PP player who has rudemntary skills and does the same setup and combos everytime. but. you. just. keep. walking. into. them. cause of a brain fart.
I'm down. Last I remember though, our connection wasn't too great.
Passive Assassin
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deadly move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8jtkhqWsU. if you can hold tap down long enough though haha.
Trickster
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Threw a fireball and pressed back, he used charge attack and bypased block. At least that's how I remember it happening.
wtf. How does that even work?
Passive Assassin
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you do more damage if you hold down 3p or 3k (iono balrog) for a certain amount of time.
Doing a fireball puts you in recovery. When he hit you, you couldn't block probably because you were still in the recovery frames of the move
The move doesn't even go full screen to begin with. It goes like half screen. I'm guessing your block string ended with a fireball and the balrog player did TAP after your last normal. The only other way you could have gotten hit by it was trying to challenge it.
Trickster
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That I know. He was just saying I was doing something wrong If I got hit by it from fullscreen. But in my case I don't really see what I could have done differently, other than simply not throw a fireball agains't a balrog player.
Passive Assassin
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hm. looks like i play standard instead of wineglass :L
There are so many setups that can safejump a reversal or make it whiff. You can't wake up with a DP in this game unless you know your opponent didn't do a setup on you correctly.
How many characters have safe jumps vs 3 frame dp's?
Trickster
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setups? :|
Passive Assassin
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ryu has a safejump after forward throw where you go back and forth and then do ... j.fierce? something like that. typically you can't safe jump a shoto, but there's a ton of unblockables on shotos.
I wanna say about 1/3 or 1/4 of the cast has a 3 frame safe jump.
Rice-Eater
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You can't safe jump 3f DP's since the minimum recovery frames for any jumping attack in this game is 4 frames. You either bait with a empty jump or you have a set up that can beat DP's or force them to whiff. That's why even shoto's are afraid to DP's safe jump set ups without meter. If they guess wrong and don't FADC, they eat a big punish.
Then you have characters like Akuma, Viper, Cammy, and others who aren't safe jumping, but even shoto's refuse to try and DP because they'll get stuffed or their DP will whiff. And that fear allows those characters to pressure with jump in attacks.
If they'll get stuffed or their dp's will whiff, isn't that technically a safe jump?
One does not simply safe jump 3 frame dps.
Well Honda can
He also has a safe crossup against shoryukens from a forward throw.
Sorry if it seems like I'm linking my videos a lot but that's why I made them in the first place: to explain some things better
Funny thing about that as well is that he wouldn't upload that match to his YouTube channel despite the fact he said that he would.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSVlEwLwHVE
Well Honda can
He also has a safe crossup against shoryukens from a forward throw.
Sorry if it seems like I'm linking my videos a lot but that's why I made them in the first place: to explain some things better
Weird. Is Honda considered grounded when he does j.HP that late?
Karsius said:
Safejump implies that you are able to block from a jump-in attack when your opponent does a wakeup move.
A setup to beat DP is different.
ie After a sweep against Ryu, Akuma can walk forward a little bit then do meaty command divekick. It beats jab DP clean and lets you confirm into a combo. It will make the other 3 DPs whiff as you land behind them. Ryu can't do a delay DP either since the divekick is hitting meaty.
Rice-Eater
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To further elaborate on this, most people think of safe jumps as meaty jump in attacks used after a knockdown in which you can still recover and block if your opponent uses a 5 frame(or slower) invincible reversal. Most reversals with a lot of invincibility starts up in 5 frames or more and the minimum recover from a jumping attack is 4 frames so you get at least 1 frame to land and block if you set it up perfectly. These set ups means you don't have to worry about Sagat or Cammy hitting you on wake up as long as you're holding back during your safe jump so it basically gives you assurance of free pressure on their wake up.
You can also use option select during safe jumps to cover your opponents escape options like back dash. You can mix it up with empty jump throw or lows if you like since it will hit first before they can get their normal out. You just have to condition your opponent into blocking once they know you're using a safe jump set up. Some safe jumps are brain dead easy like Ryu's or Cody's holding up forward after a sweep and throw respectively. While others you have to whiff a normal or delay your jump by a few frames.
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