Abare Tosanami is only invincible to the wall. After that, it's just speed and a strong hitbox covering you. They are planning on making it projectile invincible in USFIV though. *shrug*
was at messing with these cheap turtle tactics, but I still am unaware of how to use these moves safely. I'm a complete rookie at this. Only been using a stick for a month, and Ibuki for a week now. I'm just having a lot of fun and I'm having to adapt to a world where I'm 3 years late.
My friend would crouch, throw three jabs then a sweep (or a HB if he was able to link, which was rare, fortunately). How do I punish this shit? I hate the Boxer matchup, and I had to play about 30 matches tonight, and I probably won 9 of them. The problem I have is I can't punish anything he does except for a headbutt. It feels like Boxer beats everything Ibuki has. And, if I do 10 things right, Boxer only has to do 1 thing right to get about the same amount of damage.
I had a lot of luck once I discovered how good the ->+Sp(強
That's where I need work. I am incredibly unsafe and although I can execute a few combos, I don't know how to set them up besides jump-in Target Combos. The way I see it, the only way to get better is to get your ass beat over and over again. If I won all the time, then I'd never stop doing the same stuff.
It had a 3f startup and then led into a predetermined movement that could be punished. You know what's really cheating? Block. Starts in 1f and lets you stay where you are with no recovery.Juri's counter was already not as good as other counters, now it's getting even shittier. Calling it "cheating" or the changes a good thing shows a misunderstanding of how the move works compared to other counters.
That's why cool kids play Cammy
Always fun grabbing a counter-happy Gouken.
Which are currently wonky because of how much pushback on her normals she has she will get close/far normals at far/close range making things worse...oh but she can do c.lk to c.mk as a real combo now instead of CH only. her j.feirce was her tool that kept shotos from getting dp happy. Gone.
Anti-Air Ex Fireball is also still a bad anti-air considering how many good anti-air normals she has. also no. they took that from her after her first nerf.
Jump Back Ex Divekick serves the same purpose as jump back normal divekick. None. her divekick is terribly unsafe while being able to get the 3 ranges from her ex dive is an improvement and being able to get all the hits is an improvement her jump back dk was very rarely used and pretty much only tricked people once. she's a character that has to constantly trick someone because you can standblock her to death.
Yeah counters dont work when they are out of range...except juris doesnt work IN range.
Sorry didn't get to try this until just now:
What is the threat if you can safely meaty all his moves including ultras for free? Just OS or react.
You would almost be right. He has a solution for everything except low strikes (Which can be done with impunity), problem being that any neutral situation afterward (i.e. blocking) at close or mid range is at his disadvantage, he has to really create space for himself. I say this because even after a blocked mixup/blockstring/teched throw, for deejay his best option is to keep blocking. Even on a right guess the risk to even press a button is too great. To truly get himself into a neutral situation, he will have to take huge, unsafe risks (and I'm not talking about just his specials here). He is just bad defensively...but lacks the strengths of chars that are also bad defensively, Also, unlike gouken, blocking some mixups actively removes some of his toolset (due to him being a charge char)
Only wakeup option bison has that can be meatied is ex pc though...teleport gets you away (unless in the corner), committing to a meaty means you can't reaction punish teleport. Then you have ex devil's reverse (slightly risky), ex scissors (very risky), ex headstomp (unsafe), and a good backdash. For a player wanting to capatalize on knockdown that is a lot to look out for.
Depends on what button you hit. A meaty low strike (low short) should recover before ex sobat hits (unless you press something else and get counterhit). When talking about stuffing all his wakeup options I do say low strikes but think more like ryu c.mp.
Going by this logic everyone has good wakeup options. But that isnt the case at all, its all relative. Having to guess or rely on a move that is contingent on whether your opponent presses a certain button isn't that strong but its great if you understand the opponents meta game and doesn't involve armor breakers. Dudley on wakeup isn't very strong, but I feel more comfortable with him in that situation because he has 3 frame attacks and decent buttons up close. Gouken can not make counter or ex demonflip safe with FADC. He can however make ex tatsu safe through fadc given that his opponent is STANDING POINT BLANK lest you want to give your opponent a window of >100 frames to ponder on how to max punish you. Wakeup is the bane of his chatacter design. When I fight other goukens I absolutely bully them on wakeup so much that I force them to make desperate unsafe moves to get me off their grill.Because of this they make it their sole purpose to not get knocked down. Their is a reason why the old man fairs so poorly against characters like akuma cammy and hakan. That said Gouken isn't entitled to have strong wakeup, he's a defensive/zoning character.
